How Can I Route Online Music, in 2021, From My iPad To My DAC To Allow Me To Play It Back On My Audio System? Need Your Help!

[TubeLover]

Hello, I asked this question once, a couple years back. I have both a paid online music service that I access via my iPad, and also an online FM station whose archives I listen to. 

 

At the time, I temporarily was able to use the "shairware" setting on my Sonore Ultra Rendu, but then problems kept arising, and became worse and worse, and it was pointed out here that there were some bugs, either in shaireware and/or the implementation. As soon as I stopped using the shairware setting, all of the problems instantly disappeared. For a while the point was moot, as I was looking for a new home, and then spent countless months packing and moving, and unpacking and setting up the new house. Now, its driving me crazy that I currently have no option to listen to these musical programs on anything other than the speakers included on my iPad Pro. 

 

By now, in 2021, there must be something I can buy to accomplish what I am trying to do? Any help would be immensely appreciated. Thanks.

 

JC

 

[stefano_mbp]

If an hardwired connection is not a issue you could use the Apple Camera Connection Kit to connect your iPad to the dac.

 

[DuckToller]

Salut JC,

congratulations to your new place, I'd guess it is not anymore up the hill and much  better suited for your knees and your back problems.

AFAIK (Apple gear is only for my family and rarely for me) you could use any free digital entry of your recent DAC  (USB(COAX etc) and connect it with a streaming endpoint (media box) that does airplay/airplay2, has coax or Toslink output (I assume you have the U-Rendu connected via USB)  and perhaps Bluetooth, as this would be the third option after USB adapter and Airplay.

I am not sure if you doesn't want airplay anymore in your network or only avoid the shairport software in the U-rendu?

 I think the bandwidth with Airplay is restricted to 16-bit digital audio files at 48 kHz (i.e. CD Quality) which could be topped by recent Bluetooth options that offer up to 96hz transfers.
 

I have read that the MI Box (chez DARKO) does Airplay, perhaps that is an adequate solution for your problem?
Cheers, Tom

[R1200CL]

8 hours ago, TubeLover said:

Sonore Ultra Rendu

Where is this getting signal from ? A PC ?

[TubeLover]

To better explain things, the system in my office/den is comprised of two monoblocks, a preamp, a DAC, a Sonic Transporter as Roon server, a Sonore Ultra Rendu as a streamer, and Roon endpoint, and a NAS. 

 

And Tom, yes, no longer being way up on the hill does help. Thanks. Plus I have a lot more room at the new place, which was much needed. I am also not an Apple guy. I am using the iPad as I would need either it, or a Android tablet to run the software from the online music service I use. And, at the time I acquired the iPad, it was the only format they supported. I could also use my desktop PC, but that's a whole other issue in terms of connecting and routing music of good quality to the DAC. At least the last I knew. 

 

I originally tried using an Apple camera connection, but all I got was connectivity errors on the iPad. Also, in the setup at the new house, I would need a about  an eight foot cord, minimum, to connect directly from the iPad to the DAC. It would seem like there simply must be a way to accomplish this. 

[R1200CL]

13 minutes ago, TubeLover said:

To better explain things, the system in my office/den is comprised of two monoblocks, a preamp, a DAC, a Sonic Transporter as Roon server, a Sonore Ultra Rendu as a streamer, and Roon endpoint, and a NAS. 

So you don’t have Qobuz or Tidal, so you can’t use the normal way ?

What service then ? Sonore has some options implemented. Also some services is supported by Qnap. 

[TubeLover]

14 minutes ago, R1200CL said:

So you don’t have Qobuz or Tidal, so you can’t use the normal way ?

What service then ? Sonore has some options implemented. Also some services is supported by Qnap. 

I have both Qobuz and Tidal, which, for this discussion, are irrelevant. The music service in question is "Music From The Hearts Of Space". 

 

JC

[R1200CL]

....that’s possible via Roon. But I think you know that very well. 

I guess a Chromecast Audio can solve things also, if Sonore’s Airplay option isn’t working ?

[Cebolla]

From memory, I believe part of JC's instability problems with the Rendu stemmed from having to manually change its output mode whenever its AirPlay support was occasionally required and then back again for Roon its support.

 

It's a shame that Sonore don't provide seamless constant automatic support for AirPlay for their streaming devices in parallel with the other supported streaming mechanisms, so avoiding the need to manually change the output mode, l can't think of any other AirPlay supporting streamer that requires a manual override setting for whenever AirPlay is needed (that includes Raspberry Pi multi-streaming mechanism supporting ones I've built myself using the same Linux based open source Shairport Sync AirPlay audio player that the Sonore devices use).   

[R1200CL]

18 hours ago, TubeLover said:

The music service in question is "Music From The Hearts Of Space". 

Got this mail:

 

Two ways:

1. Use our app on your iPhone/iPad/iPod touch and use Airplay to send audio from your device/our app to Roon. For the next week or 10 days you’ll have to use our  beta app for iOS, which will be in the app store soon. I’ll append instructions for getting the beta app now. 

 

2. Use Sonos. We have a very limited integration with the Sonos systems. If you are a HOS subscriber, you can add Hearts of Space to the list of your music services in Sonos, then you will be able to stream HOS controlling the stream with your Sonos controller. I’m not completely familiar with using Roon this way, but there is supposed to be compatibility between Sonos and Roon.

 

This is new, so let us know how this works out for you. 

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

 

Here’s the scoop about our new advanced Beta app for iOS:

 

Our brand new iPhone/iPad app is in the final stages of beta testing before release to the App Store. You might want to try it, as it has direct access to the all music, including making and editing playlists in the app, and a lot more. The new app is fully compatible with Airplay and Bluetooth, including HomePods, and all native iOS features and controls. All performance bugs have been resolved, the test app is safe, and will be identical to the app release except that for release the ability to subscribe will be activated (Apple doesn’t allow purchases through test apps). 

 

 

1. Delete the current HOS app. You can get it back from the App Store anytime before we release the new update if you want to go back to it, but I doubt you will want that after using the new app. 

 

2. From the App Store, search for and download Testflight (it’s Apple’s own app for testing). 

 

3. With Testflight open, tap this link:

 

https://testflight.apple.com/join/dhVi0VMF

 

Sign in to the test app with your normal HOS email address and password, and off you go into a whole new HOS app, much more like the website than ever before. On an iPad, it’s actually identical to our website, but an app!

 

Let us know what you think. 

 

Best regards,

 

Leyla Hill | [email protected]

Hearts of Space | Slow Music for Fast Times

http://www.hos.com

 

 

[TubeLover]

Thanks very much for the assistance. While I do not own any Sonos equipment, I'll certainly try the beta app out asapa. 

 

JC