Ethernet cable-from router to streamer.

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Here we go again. Maybe a sticky for this type of question:

 

1. You shouldn't used chassis tied shielded cables. IE they make a common ground connection between switch and endpoints on that switch. An end point is any multiple devices that have a ground connection over shield to the switch. Switch being the 'hub' and endpoints being 'spoke'

 

2. You can use a cable with a floated shield. That is a shield that is only there when we are running 300 cables in a bundle and want to reduce inter-cable cross-talk.

 

3. You should use UTP Cat5e or CAT6. Both are good for 10GBe applications. 147 foot for CAT5e, 180 foot for CAT6. CAT6A by standard are supposed to be shielded. Don't use them for anything else other than non-audio applications. They are good for 10GBe at 328 foot.

 

4. Use a quality BJC, Panduit, Tripplite cable. All are guaranteed to spec out and meet IEEE / TIA standards for Skew, NeXT, Interpair crosstalk, propagation delay.

 

5. There is nothing but anecdote that cables of a Category (5e or 6) make an audible difference. The issue being is that the standards that the cable has to meet determines the design. Doesn't matter if it's silver coated or CCD or ETP. They all hit air gapped magnetics on BOTH ends. At the switch and at the end point.

 

6. Empiric evidence on everthing from $30K audio analyzers to $100K Agilent scopes show us that cables that meet spec simply meet spec and do nothing magical for us.

 

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2 hours ago, intothedragon said:

Would an optical ethernet setup be another solution for my case?

but yes, I'm really considering changing all the cables to UTP anyway to eliminate the ground loop in all my devices

Optical is great, if, you have it natively implemented in an end point device. I did 10GBe optical for ~$210. That's including a Cisco switch with four SFP+, two NIC's (4 port Dell R620 daughter card with two SFP+ and two GBe copper), a Solar Flare NIC with two SFP+, two FS.COM SR LC 10GBe optics and cabling.  332MB/s on my lowly Celeron N3150 JRiver based setup.

 

I think you are going to see more and more solutions with SFP+ cage built in.

 

Also Wireless is a great isolation method. I get 38MB/s over my TP-Link setup. I have three TP-Link Omada 1350AC WAP's at $56 per. With their controller I have 802.11 k/v/r implemented and operates smoothly. Also I just setup a wireless bridge for a company and over 150 yards I'm getting 80MB/s. All for $200 an EnGenius bridge in a box.

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9 minutes ago, PeterSt said:

 

 

Great speed / cost ratio !

Everybody should do this.

 

You should if you have two buildings and no other way to connect them... Yep killer for $200.

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5 hours ago, intothedragon said:

If I want to make just an end point to connect optical on my streamer to eliminate this issue, I will need two of These converters plus the optical cables and that's it? or do I need something else?

 

I just used the $49 FS.com 1GBe FMC's on a job where the Sales Engineer didn't do an effective job of determining what connectivity was needed and these saved the day.

 

The SX 1GBe Multimode transceivers (orange OM2 or aqua blue OM3/OM4) are ~$6 at FS.com.

 

Don't worry about MM or SM fiber (aquablue vs yellow). The difference is the aqua-blue OM3 or OM4 is 10GBe at up to 300 or 400 meters respectively. Yellow SM is called OS2 and is for used for ranges longer than 300/400 meter and can scale past 10GBe

 

MM optics are less expensive than SM optics but MM cabling is a tad bit more expensive. Overall I think MM tends to be a few $'s less expensive. The cost difference really doesn't move the needle too much.

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10 minutes ago, intothedragon said:

thank you. I'll dig into that since I don't know nothing about it.  This German shop looks really nice. Are their ethernet cables any good? 

Don't know about their cabling. I recommend tripplite or panduit or bjc

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21 minutes ago, intothedragon said:

Nice, they all have dealers here. This Tripp lite cable is more expensive than other, is it really superior quality? does it worth it for home use? 

Tripplite and panduit are premium patch available at Amazon or most electrician supply houses. Any where in the Ned that sells to electricians and low voltage installers. 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.distrelec.nl/en/manufacturer/panduit/man_pnd&ved=2ahUKEwjXrY-ro9vvAhVSXK0KHcDpDD4QFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw31KPx6luyGtFoFgwcV-oh-