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The world of cars demonstrates the price craziness, quite clearly .. if you have a prestige vehicle, and some tiny, inconsequential part of the trim, say, breaks, to replace it will cost a ridiculous amount of money. The size, importance and true value of the part is irrelevant - that you trying to 'improve' a costly item is the key, and means that people will pay commensurate amounts of money, to achieve such.

Frank

 

http://artofaudioconjuring.blogspot.com/

 

 

Sometimes measurable things aren't measured ... in the universe, ego is a mighty power ... 

 

Over and out.

 

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20 minutes ago, fas42 said:

See what I mean, ^_^ ...

You don't see. The old phrase you can take a horse to water but you can't make them drink.

 

As I said, nothing you talk about, with electrical noise makes absolutely no sense, both engineering-wise and based on physics, and I have pretty decent hearing for a 61 year old gent. But, I also base things on listening to how people describe their equipment. Using flowery words, means more subjective which is hard to prove one way or another. That usually is a flag, not always. I also listen with an objective ear.

 

 

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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9 minutes ago, botrytis said:

You don't see. The old phrase you can take a horse to water but you can't make them drink.

 

As I said, nothing you talk about, with electrical noise makes absolutely no sense, both engineering-wise and based on physics, and I have pretty decent hearing for a 61 year old gent. But, I also base things on listening to how people describe their equipment. Using flowery words, means more subjective which is hard to prove one way or another. That usually is a flag, not always. I also listen with an objective ear.

 

 

 

( Sigh ... )

 

Let's start at the beginning, a very good place to ... :)

 

Thought experiment: on the other side of your listening room, in a soundproof room, you have a heavy duty arc welder; plugged into a socket back to back on the circuit, and socket, used by your audio gear. Are you 100% convinced that absolutely no-one will know when the arc welder is operating, while your system is working, by the quality of the sounds coming from the speakers ... yes or no?

Frank

 

http://artofaudioconjuring.blogspot.com/

 

 

Sometimes measurable things aren't measured ... in the universe, ego is a mighty power ... 

 

Over and out.

 

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To @fas42 - I will give an example of hearing hallucinations (which are actually fairly common) is tinnitus. It is the nerves over-acting, etc. but it also an auditory hallucination. There are many more.

 

Here is an article on just BIAS...

 

Scientist deal with bias in research all the time, and that is why experiments and papers go through a review process to make sure there is very little bias in the data and the discussion/conclusions from it. One such classic bias science paper was the 1980's British paper on how vaccines cause autism - they don't but it took years to prove the researcher that published this paper had taken money to prove this point. He was put in jail.

 

 

 

 

635.full.pdf

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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4 hours ago, botrytis said:

To @fas42 - I will give an example of hearing hallucinations (which are actually fairly common) is tinnitus. It is the nerves over-acting, etc. but it also an auditory hallucination. There are many more.

 

Here is an article on just BIAS...

 

Scientist deal with bias in research all the time, and that is why experiments and papers go through a review process to make sure there is very little bias in the data and the discussion/conclusions from it. One such classic bias science paper was the 1980's British paper on how vaccines cause autism - they don't but it took years to prove the researcher that published this paper had taken money to prove this point. He was put in jail.

 

 

 

 

635.full.pdf 91.68 kB · 2 downloads

 

You see, the problem is that you use BIAS as the catchall for everything you don't have a ready answer for - hence, a Get Out Of Jail Free card. This will get you somewhere, but soon enough the elastic is stretched too far - and it breaks.

 

I could use the exactly the same talk that you do, with respect to the silliness about speakers. The amount of nonsense about the characteristics of speakers, and how they so vitally shape what you hear, to me is mindbogglingly stupid - anyone who is obsessed what needing exactly the Right Speaker is so far from understanding what is really going on - they are, On The Road To Nowhere ...

Frank

 

http://artofaudioconjuring.blogspot.com/

 

 

Sometimes measurable things aren't measured ... in the universe, ego is a mighty power ... 

 

Over and out.

 

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On 3/4/2022 at 2:50 PM, fas42 said:

 

You see, the problem is that you use BIAS as the catchall for everything you don't have a ready answer for - hence, a Get Out Of Jail Free card. This will get you somewhere, but soon enough the elastic is stretched too far - and it breaks.

 

I could use the exactly the same talk that you do, with respect to the silliness about speakers. The amount of nonsense about the characteristics of speakers, and how they so vitally shape what you hear, to me is mindbogglingly stupid - anyone who is obsessed what needing exactly the Right Speaker is so far from understanding what is really going on - they are, On The Road To Nowhere ...

That IS the point, Frank. You have already made up your mind and everything stems from that. It is bias, callnit what you will but that is essentially what it is.

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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20 minutes ago, botrytis said:

That IS the point, Frank. You have already made up your mind and everything stems from that. It is bias, callnit what you will but that is essentially what it is.

 

Umm, in the sense you speak of it, just about everything in life is based on, er, bias. I'm biased to believe that when I get out of bed in the morning that my legs will work, and that I can walk in the kitchen to start breakfast - now, if I have an excellent hypnotist came in just before I go to bed, and plant a powerful belief in me that my legs are useless, then there is every chance that when I wake up, I will fail to reach my morning feed ... :).

 

How we live our lives is based on reinforcement, and repetition - science and textbook learning is a mere accessory to that; if the latter fails to explain something that the former keeps strengthening, then it's dead meat. In the lovely world of academia one can dream one's dreams, but unless what you experience in the real world is in agreement with those thoughts, then they are worthless ...

Frank

 

http://artofaudioconjuring.blogspot.com/

 

 

Sometimes measurable things aren't measured ... in the universe, ego is a mighty power ... 

 

Over and out.

 

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23 minutes ago, fas42 said:

How we live our lives is based on reinforcement, and repetition - science and textbook learning is a mere accessory to that;

 

I don't recall cave men discussing theory of relativity or using smart phones to browse the internet, so maybe not everything is based on repetition. Some centuries ago we discovered some neat new tools to help avoid going in circles (you know, things like science, measurements, objective facts, scientific process). Some prefer to keep going in circles to this day, though.

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24 minutes ago, pkane2001 said:

 

I don't recall cave men discussing theory of relativity or using smart phones to browse the internet, so maybe not everything is based on repetition. Some centuries ago we discovered some neat new tools to help avoid going in circles (you know, things like science, measurements, objective facts, scientific process). Some prefer to keep going in circles to this day, though.

 

It's a balance ... science, investigation determines the causes, and deeper nature of things - and those explanation have to be in accord with what actually is out there, in terms of what our senses tell us. There's always been 'science', so to speak - primitive man worked out which timber burnt the best, to keep him warm; just because he didn't have textbooks didn't mean he didn't evolve in understanding how the world worked :).

 

People go in circles when they know that what they are using isn't good enough, isn't as good as what they've experienced at some other time - if the supposed clued up people can't give them satisfactory answers to resolve things, then, yes, lots of wasted movement will happen, ^_^.

Frank

 

http://artofaudioconjuring.blogspot.com/

 

 

Sometimes measurable things aren't measured ... in the universe, ego is a mighty power ... 

 

Over and out.

 

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42 minutes ago, lsantista said:

One year later, do you still have the JS-2 with the same fuse? I wonder if you went up amperage rating a bit to avoid having the fuse blown

 

 

 

The orange fuse blew in the JS-2.

 

I tried QSA and SR Purple and returned them both.

 

I went with an Ultimate Premier Beeswax fuse and it has stayed there. 

 

I didn't up the amerage with the Beeswax fuse.

Waversa hub > Lumin S1 > Bakoon HPA-21

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