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Popular Post ted_b Posted February 18 Popular Post Share Posted February 18 Yes, I do tagging for a living (well, not living, but it's my volunteer job at Native) and wouldn't live without MP3tag; as you say, an invaluable tool. One of the favorite things I do, when almost done with an album, is to go to tag-> filename and have MP3tag rename my files themselves according to a format string (and you can have multiple in pulldown) I created. This gives consistency to your filenames, and helps just in case one goes rogue and wants to be an orphan. Easy to identify. agladstone and AudioDoctor 1 1 "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links A DSD database My ten yr old SACD Ripping Guide (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to post Share on other sites
The Computer Audiophile Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 6 minutes ago, ted_b said: Yes, I do tagging for a living (well, not living, but it's my volunteer job at Native) and wouldn't live without MP3tag; as you say, an invaluable tool. One of the favorite things I do, when almost done with an album, is to go to tag-> filename and have MP3tag rename my files themselves according to a format string (and you can have multiple in pulldown) I created. This gives consistency to your filenames, and helps just in case one goes rogue and wants to be an orphan. Easy to identify. This is genius Ted! Founder of Audiophile Style Announcing The Audiophile Style Podcast Link to post Share on other sites
Rcanoe Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I have a library of about 4000 songs accumulated over ten years. Some were ripped using 2007 iTunes, dbpoweramp, and vinyl studio. I remember typing in all the tag data in iTunes for about 100 cds!! ie a million typos. dbpoweramp rips at the time didn't have the benefit of musicbrainz either early on.....more manual entires. I have such a mish mash of tags and incorrect filenames that I didn't really dare to move outside a simple file directory structure in my music server. I only recently found a tag editor. I saw mp3tag editor but was turned off by "mp3" unknowingly. So I purchased meta from apple store which seems very similar. I couldn't believe how many errors I had to correct in file names before I could start moving to fixing genre tags. Example: Simon and Garfunkel vrs Simon & Garfunkel. Beatles vrs The Beatles. After that you can tailor genres to your liking. To me ACDC is "loud rock" and so I edited a new genre! Now I'm hijacking the "album artist" tag to make my own groupings. Anything you want. I use it to create a genre subset. An example is ROCK-HR, ROCK-CD and ROCK-P. This allows me to drill down to resolution formats for each genre. And its so easy and fast! Best thing since sliced bread! Cheers! coke 1 Mac Mini 2007: 1.83GHz Core 2 Duo, 3 Gig RAM, 500 Gig 5400 RPM HD[br]OSX 10.6.6, TimeMachine Off, Airport Off, Dedicated to Music[br]HAGUSB USB-->S/PDIF[br]Players: Audirvana, ITunes[br]Music Library: RedBook 16/44 WAV[br]Bryston BP26DA Preamp/DAC[br]Bryston 3BSST Amp[br]B&W 804s Loudspeakers[br] Link to post Share on other sites
LoryWiv Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Thank you for this article. I have used MP3Tag for years on Windows and it is both simple to use and powerful. Although I initially used it as freeware, I have donated to the developer after several upgrades and will do so in the future, as his work is exemplary. Easily worth $20. Glad to hear it is expanding to other platforms. Desktop: HQ Player --> Singxer SU-1 --> Matrix X-Sabre Pro --> Feliks Audio Elise Mark II Nearfield Active Speakers: Audioengine HD3 / Power Conditioning: Furman Elite-15 PFi Full-Sized Headphone: ZMF Auteur (Walnut) / Headphone Cable: Norne Silvergarde S3 Link to post Share on other sites
JoshM Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 12 hours ago, Rcanoe said: I have a library of about 4000 songs accumulated over ten years. Some were ripped using 2007 iTunes, dbpoweramp, and vinyl studio. I remember typing in all the tag data in iTunes for about 100 cds!! ie a million typos. dbpoweramp rips at the time didn't have the benefit of musicbrainz either early on.....more manual entires. I have such a mish mash of tags and incorrect filenames that I didn't really dare to move outside a simple file directory structure in my music server. I only recently found a tag editor. I saw mp3tag editor but was turned off by "mp3" unknowingly. So I purchased meta from apple store which seems very similar. I couldn't believe how many errors I had to correct in file names before I could start moving to fixing genre tags. Example: Simon and Garfunkel vrs Simon & Garfunkel. Beatles vrs The Beatles. After that you can tailor genres to your liking. To me ACDC is "loud rock" and so I edited a new genre! Now I'm hijacking the "album artist" tag to make my own groupings. Anything you want. I use it to create a genre subset. An example is ROCK-HR, ROCK-CD and ROCK-P. This allows me to drill down to resolution formats for each genre. And its so easy and fast! Best thing since sliced bread! Cheers! I recently bought Meta, too, and couldn’t be happier with it. 🔊 The Best Version Of... 🎧 Link to post Share on other sites
delprado Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Thanks for this, very useful to know. May I ask how it compares to Metadatics? What software do you use to rip on the Mac? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
JR_Audio Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Hi Chris. Ah, thanks for this information. This was under MS Windows my most favorite program for tagging for years. And now, I can bring it back home to MacOS. Juergen The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to post Share on other sites
The Computer Audiophile Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 4 hours ago, delprado said: Thanks for this, very useful to know. May I ask how it compares to Metadatics? What software do you use to rip on the Mac? Thanks! To rip on Mac I use dbpoweramp Founder of Audiophile Style Announcing The Audiophile Style Podcast Link to post Share on other sites
hopkins Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I'm an MP3Tag user for Windows and it is nice to see that a Mac version is finally available. The metadata retrieval from Discogs works well (within the limits of Discogs - sub-tracks are a pain...). I also use it to automate a few tasks: - rename files based on tags - auto-numbering - automate text removal (for ex: Qobuz downloads often have unnecessary text added in the track titles). Overall, really user-friendly and powerful software. The Computer Audiophile 1 my blog Link to post Share on other sites
mesonto Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Used to use MP3Tag, but switched over to "Tagscanner", and found it just a far, far better tool. Of course switched to Windows as well to use it and other programs for my audio/video library needs. (there are just so many more programs to be had) If anyone is interested and on the PC, (there may be a MAC version, I don't know) but it is well worth checking out. You won't go back to MP3Tag as it is too limiting. But as they say "to each their own". Link to post Share on other sites
WAM Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 7 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: What software do you use to rip on the Mac? +1 for dBpoweramp. JRiver also has a feature for ripping discs. Link to post Share on other sites
Steve7 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Nice review! How does it compare to Mate'? Link to post Share on other sites
One and a half Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, mesonto said: Used to use MP3Tag, but switched over to "Tagscanner", and found it just a far, far better tool. Of course switched to Windows as well to use it and other programs for my audio/video library needs. (there are just so many more programs to be had) If anyone is interested and on the PC, (there may be a MAC version, I don't know) but it is well worth checking out. You won't go back to MP3Tag as it is too limiting. But as they say "to each their own". Agree here totally. Came across Tagscanner when looking for a solution to remove the '01-' from '01-Tubular Bells' (example) in the metadata. I could, in the past, run an expression in MP3Tag, but something changed (me?) couldn't work no matter which combo. Tagscanner already had a template for just that situation, modified the template a little and it worked a treat. I still use MP3Tag, for the odd errors found, usually from Explorer, with the quick right click context window, and it's done. With Tagscanner have to open then select, it's just a few mouse clicks more, but leave Tagscanner's default folder in the Downloads ready to check and process. Like MP3Tag, Tagscanner edits metadata from just about any format. Only have two anyway, FLAC and DSD. Tagscanner took a while to while to load initially, but that's worked itself through a couple of software revisions, now the loading is instantaneous. Online resources have a metadata preview inside the app which is convenient, MP3Tag needs to open a web page like Discogs to obtain the r number for the release, copy and process. I found the search not bad, but produced some weird and irrelevant results, like most search results s'pose'. Screenshots of Tagscanner AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to post Share on other sites
Steve7 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Nice review! How does it compare to Yate'? Link to post Share on other sites
EuroChamp Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Thanks for that hint! Even though I have never regretted the switch after Win7 to MacOS, the tagging was never solved. Will definitely start using mp3tag on the Mac now. One function, I am still missing is a lookup in the own database while typing. Let's say, I want to add the composer, and I want to always use "Beethoven, Ludwig van (1770 - 1827)". To my knowledge, mp3tag not really offer a nice solution, or I missed it. Any suggestions? (OT: f2k does support it in an excellent way, but has disadvantages also) Link to post Share on other sites
delprado Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2021 at 1:24 PM, The Computer Audiophile said: To rip on Mac I use dbpoweramp Thanks! Do you worry about it not being able to produce a log to confirm a bit perfect rip? How do we know? Link to post Share on other sites
The Computer Audiophile Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 3 minutes ago, delprado said: Thanks! Do you worry about it not being able to produce a log to confirm a bit perfect rip? How do we know? You can write to a log file for every rip if you wish. Founder of Audiophile Style Announcing The Audiophile Style Podcast Link to post Share on other sites
Anonamemouse Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I use Tag&Rename, AFAIK only for Mickey$oft. In the end it's probably a personal preference thing, I never liked mp3tag... An annoying noise annoys an oyster Link to post Share on other sites
DavidL Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 A useful review. Not sure if this is the right place to ask but here we go........ When I started ripping CDs and storing them on a NAS about 10 years ago I was faced with a huge variety of tagging. In particularly classical CDs were particularly bad as they often have works br a range of composers and artists. My solution was to re-purpose 'Album' to 'Work'. This has resulted in my library being very easy to search and play classical music. My question is what would mp3tag come up with when faced with all these albums that now contain a single work? ALAC iTunes library on Synology DS412+ running MinimServer with Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 tablet running BubbleUPnP for control > Hi-Fi 1: Airport Extreme bridge > Netgear switch > TP-Link optical isolation > dCS Network Bridge AND PS Audio PerfectWave Transport > PS Audio DirectStream DAC with Bridge Mk.II > Primare A60 > Harbeth SHL5plus Anniversary Edition . Hi-Fi 2: Sonore Rendu > Chord Hugo DAC/preamp > LFD integrated > Harbeth P3ESRs and > Sennheiser HD800 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post semente Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 I tag all my music manually and I’ve been happy using iTunes together with Doug’s “Search and Replace” action to tag my rips and downloads for many years. Every once in a while I wish I had a few more tools, maybe this programme will do the trick... The Computer Audiophile and Bill Brown 2 "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes Link to post Share on other sites
paul_riordan Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 2/18/2021 at 2:41 PM, The Computer Audiophile said: This is genius Ted! The other useful things that file renaming does is stop you getting filepath/filename length issues - especially if you have a structured way of storing your music files and you move the files around different machines at home. Stereo Source: Auralic Aries + Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ Surround Source: Windows PC Pre-amp: Mark Levinson ML380s, Anthem D2v Speakers: ATC SCM50A (L/R/C), C4 (Sub), SCM20-2A (LR,RR) Link to post Share on other sites
SirAtilla Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 2/18/2021 at 9:34 AM, ted_b said: Yes, I do tagging for a living (well, not living, but it's my volunteer job at Native) and wouldn't live without MP3tag; as you say, an invaluable tool. One of the favorite things I do, when almost done with an album, is to go to tag-> filename and have MP3tag rename my files themselves according to a format string (and you can have multiple in pulldown) I created. This gives consistency to your filenames, and helps just in case one goes rogue and wants to be an orphan. Easy to identify. Good to know and I plan to take a look at this product now that it is on macOS. btw dBpoweramp does this as well both for individual albums but can also do this in bulk. I attached screen shots of Arrange Audio "Codec" which is file rename function if you don't add any DSP effects. I also included the screen shot of the naming logic I use to name files the way I want. What is nice you can use same string in the CD Ripper so rips are named similar during ripping. Carlin "Rick" Smith Link to post Share on other sites
SirAtilla Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 2/19/2021 at 10:00 PM, Steve7 said: Nice review! How does it compare to Yate'? I wanted to ask the same as that will be what I compare this product too. Yate is the most sophisticated editor I have ever used. However, I will say to be able to use it to its potential takes a commitment to learning the nuances of the tool. You can script virtually anything in this tool for batch processing and the developers of the tool are incredibly helpful if you run into issues on how to code something. Carlin "Rick" Smith Link to post Share on other sites
danadam Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/18/2021 at 3:34 PM, ted_b said: Yes, I do tagging for a living (well, not living, but it's my volunteer job at Native) Ah, so it's you who is to blame for including "tracktotal" value in "tracknumber" tag! 😉 ]$ kid3-cli -c 'get tracknumber' 3_The-Dreams-and-Prayers-of-Isaac-the-Blind-Prelude_stereo.dsf 3/8 ]$ kid3-cli -c 'get tracknumber' 8_Pavane_64fs-2ch.dsf 8/12 Madness! Pure madness! Link to post Share on other sites
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