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I have a 6+ year old pair of sennheiser 558s i think is their model number. Literally 100 new off amazon. My mobo, phone, PC case all cannot drive them very well.

 

Considering the price bracket yes you need at least something with a nice headphone amp.

 

These guys do not seem very helpful on basic questions, for basic buying advice I would look elsewhere then come back here to read or ask for advanced/meta questions. Or at least have more of an idea of what you want and a budget

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2 hours ago, BigWilliam said:

I have a 6+ year old pair of sennheiser 558s i think is their model number. Literally 100 new off amazon. My mobo, phone, PC case all cannot drive them very well.

 

Considering the price bracket yes you need at least something with a nice headphone amp.

 

These guys do not seem very helpful on basic questions, for basic buying advice I would look elsewhere then come back here to read or ask for advanced/meta questions. Or at least have more of an idea of what you want and a budget

You’ve been here for a week, offended many, and no made a judgement on how well people here donate their time helping others. People who keep asking the right questions get them all answered to their satisfaction. Others who ask a single question and expect a dissertation from others that solves all their problems are soon to be disappointed. 
 

Perhaps AS isn’t a place for you. 

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On 12/30/2020 at 1:38 AM, DuckToller said:

First of all, welcome to the forum!!!

 

 

Agree to disagree! 😇

 

Your A&K has max 12Vrms output, which seems absolutely sufficient to drive your cans. It is a first class device. I'd personally prefer the device to have DAC chips other than the MQA hardware featuring ESS9068 because I haven't found yet an answer on the question if the hardwired MQA filters of the DAC chips (there are 2 of them)  can be bypassed and if they degrade the sound quality of other formats like PCM, DXD or DSD.

 

BW unfortunately sounds like he has had a bad day and may not be up to date on the latest Astell & Kern Kann Alpha DAP, DAC and HP amp. Happens. . . 😉

 

You would need a stationary HP amp only if you listen more hours in a row than the 12-14 hours advertised for that mobile device.

 

The fitting Senn HP amp HDV820

has been reviewed with mediocre results. If you look for a stationary HP amp with DAC, you may want to consider the source (towards the DAC) as an important factor (USB/SPDIF/Wireless/Toslink).

 

If you want to go big, the Benchmark HPA4 comes to mind, it is HPA only, and requires a DAC .

 

pls feel free to raise more questions, here are a lot of more experienced posters around than BW.

 

Cheers, Tom

Thank you for your exhaustive explanation. I really appreciate it. Do you think there's a better digital audio player and headphones in this price range? Also I would like to ask if I need an external hp amp to connect hd820 to my av reciever pioneer 922 or there's no need for that?

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18 hours ago, Muzgotrzep said:

Thank you for your exhaustive explanation. I really appreciate it. Do you think there's a better digital audio player and headphones in this price range? Also I would like to ask if I need an external hp amp to connect hd820 to my av reciever pioneer 922 or there's no need for that?

Doubt that a mid-fi AVR headphone jack will do justice to the headphones capabilities. Best to go with digital out to something like an iDSD Black

or Chord Mojo thats intended to provide DAC + good headphone amplification. Toslink works well for long runs  between AV rack + screen  and

listening chair, won't break the bank for cable cost

 

Regards,

Dave

 

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On 12/30/2020 at 9:47 PM, Muzgotrzep said:

Thank you for your exhaustive explanation. I really appreciate it. Do you think there's a better digital audio player and headphones in this price range? Also I would like to ask if I need an external hp amp to connect hd820 to my av reciever pioneer 922 or there's no need for that?


Are you looking specifically for portable headphones and a DAP? What percentage of out-and-about versus home use are you expecting? When you’re out, will you be walking around or sitting someplace?

 

My recommendations would vary based on the above.
 

If you’re looking for portability in headphones, that leans towards easily drivable closed cans. I wasn’t a fan of the HD820. Depending on your budget and style preferences, look instead towards the Focal Elegia or ZMF Verite closed. Both are much more neutral and better sounding than the HD820. If you’re going to be walking a lot, the former is probably a better choice than the latter. Even cheaper and more portable are the NAD HP50.
 

Depending on the ratio of use at home versus out and about, you might want to look into a cheaper DAP (heck, Ponos can be had cheap!) and allocate more money towards a home setup instead. It all depends on where and how you do most of your listening. 

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