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I am in the process of ripping my cd’s using Windows Media player, version 12 on a laptop with Windows 10. I have some CD’s which are decoded in HDCD format, for instance Neil Young’s album Silver & Gold. When I try to playback this CD on the computer with WMP, it sounds scrambled/distorted. It sounds good on the CD player in my home stereo system. I have read that Windows media Player support HDCD cd’s and a HDCD symbol should lit up in the player to indicate HDCD media. That does not happen. The result is that both playback of audio cd and ripped cd in FLAC or Wav format have distorted sound.

I have also tried to install foobar2000 player and added HDCD component for this player but with the same result as in Windows Media Player. Thankful for any input in this matter.  

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4 hours ago, ArveS said:

Hi,

I am in the process of ripping my cd’s using Windows Media player, version 12 on a laptop with Windows 10. I have some CD’s which are decoded in HDCD format, for instance Neil Young’s album Silver & Gold. When I try to playback this CD on the computer with WMP, it sounds scrambled/distorted. It sounds good on the CD player in my home stereo system. I have read that Windows media Player support HDCD cd’s and a HDCD symbol should lit up in the player to indicate HDCD media. That does not happen. The result is that both playback of audio cd and ripped cd in FLAC or Wav format have distorted sound.

I have also tried to install foobar2000 player and added HDCD component for this player but with the same result as in Windows Media Player. Thankful for any input in this matter.  

Hydrogen audio does say the rip has to be lossless for WMP to work. HDCD had a lot of features that few understood how to implement. It may be more reliable for

you to use dbPoweramp and its HDCD decoder with HDCD rips, that will get you a 20 bit recording that should behave well in any media player.

Regards,

Dave

 

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5 hours ago, ArveS said:

Hi,

I am in the process of ripping my cd’s using Windows Media player, version 12 on a laptop with Windows 10. I have some CD’s which are decoded in HDCD format, for instance Neil Young’s album Silver & Gold. When I try to playback this CD on the computer with WMP, it sounds scrambled/distorted. It sounds good on the CD player in my home stereo system. I have read that Windows media Player support HDCD cd’s and a HDCD symbol should lit up in the player to indicate HDCD media. That does not happen. The result is that both playback of audio cd and ripped cd in FLAC or Wav format have distorted sound.

I have also tried to install foobar2000 player and added HDCD component for this player but with the same result as in Windows Media Player. Thankful for any input in this matter.  

 

dbPowerAmp can rip HDCDs with decoding to 24 bit format. That's what I used for about 20 or so HDCDs I had in my collection a few years ago.

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Thanks for replies. I have not tried DBPowerAmp yet. How ever it seems to me in that the hardware/software in my laptop will not detect this specific CD, (Neil Young - Silver & Gold), as a HDCD disc. It is a little bit strange since I have successfully ripped other HDCD discs to FLAC files with the same equipment and software, (for instance Neil Young's album Prairie Wind). For the moment I will keep this CD in my collection for playback via the CD player in my stereo system instead :)  

I guess I could use DBPoweramp to tell me if the CD is recognised as a HDCD cd? (but if the problem is for instance the CD-ROM in my laptop I will still not be able to rip this HDCD disc successfully I guess..)   

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10 hours ago, ArveS said:

Thanks for replies. I have not tried DBPowerAmp yet. How ever it seems to me in that the hardware/software in my laptop will not detect this specific CD, (Neil Young - Silver & Gold), as a HDCD disc. It is a little bit strange since I have successfully ripped other HDCD discs to FLAC files with the same equipment and software, (for instance Neil Young's album Prairie Wind). For the moment I will keep this CD in my collection for playback via the CD player in my stereo system instead :)  

I guess I could use DBPoweramp to tell me if the CD is recognised as a HDCD cd? (but if the problem is for instance the CD-ROM in my laptop I will still not be able to rip this HDCD disc successfully I guess..)   

Any possibility that you have a normal CD, didn't get the HDCD version? I ran into that trying to get the HDCD version of "the Princess Bride" where

there was the original non HDCD and a subsequent remastered HDCD version. The annoying part of HDCD is it often doesn't say it on the case  label

and sometimes not on the disc artwork either. dbPoweramp will tell you in the logfile if the HDCD converter is enabled that it was used.

Regards,

Dave

 

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Hi,

Yes, the CD front label is marked with HDCD. How ever I have tried to rip the CD with DBPoweramp also. The CD does not pass the Accurate check. It seems that DBPowerAmp does neither detect the disc as a HDCD disk. I guess that's the reason why the sound is distorted during playback of the CD on the computer. ( The computer does not detect the CD as a HDCD disc and therefore all songs on the cd sounds distorted, while my CD player in my stereo system detect the CD as a HDCD cd and plays the entire cd correctly without distortion ).   

 

from DBPoweramp log:

Tried to rip the the cd with DBPowerAmp with secure ripping, unsuccessfully:

Information ripping to FLAC, 'Track 1' to 'C:\Users\Arve Sundstrøm\Music\Neil Young\Silver & Gold\01 Neil Young - Good To See You.flac'

   Track 1:  ERROR Ripping LBA 0 to 12795 (2:50) in 18:26. Filename: C:\Users\Arve Sundstrøm\Music\Neil Young\Silver & Gold\01 Neil Young - Good To See You.flac

   Audio File Passed Verification

 

It seems like it is right at the beginnng of the tracks that the read errors occur when I look at the gui information in DBPowerAmp when ripping in accurate rip secure mode. :) 

(Maybe my CD-Rom has some trouble reading the HDCD disc information on this cd). 

 

 

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Here's my take on HDCD physical CDs. Rip them as bit perfect copies of the original and call it a day. Any ripping program can handle this. If you have HDCD hardware, then it will decode the HDCD of the bit perfect rip. If not, enjoy the CD as regular CD. 

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