Streaming as vinyl?!

[Flyman]

Goodafternoon to all.

with covid19 I hope you will have more music pleasure at least.

 

well I have a good time of listening music. So I chasing my tail.

 

A little story first. So my first experience of streaming has with my Hegel h190. as i understand it wasn't the best that you can get from a dac/streamer. As I read somebody explain that the dac/streamer of h190 is because of 2020....all in one situation. is like a cars...every car of 2020 have a radio in standard.

 

I make a comparison with ifi micro. it was a little upgrade. After that I take the 851n. I didn't like the mid freq ...It was a little strange to me ....maybe it doesn't fit to my system....and It wasn't a thing to say wow, but it was better than the previous. after that I buy the SHD. it was much better(not because of Dirac). but still is missing something....

 

I have listened the m10. Nothing special. The m33 that some reviewer says the best....I don't agree. For my taste I like to create a system like a turntable sound. so the class d is not for me. The sound was open,analytical.

 

Speaking with a guy in other forum told me that a streamer Is a good step up. My shd have Volumio and I can play the tidal music from there. I was wondering if the Auralic Aries 2.1 with give more to the music. I am trying to create a like playing like a vinyl.

 

I listen music from tidal (I know isn't the best way), I have dedicated line, balanced filter,c7es,hegel h190,shd as streamer and dac, good cables on speakers, power cables,xlr and some panels to walls.

 

be my guest if somebody make a comparison with shd as streamer/dac with the Auralic as streamer and shd as dac.

 

thanx

[audiobomber]

I have several streamers and several DAC's. IMO, you will have best sound quality by upgrading the DAC, not the streamer. My suggestion is to get a good DAC and hook it up digitally via coax to the SHD. I believe the DAC's in the SHD are pretty basic.

 

Have you tried connecting the SHD to the Hegel via digital coax cable? I expect it has a pretty good DAC section. 

 

Are you using the SHD Dirac function?

[Flyman]

thanx a lot for your post.

 

I have tried the Hegel's dac without good results. the 851n and the shd have better DAC iMO.

 

I don't use Dirac function since it cuts the headrooms for some reason and the right speaker has more volume. Maybe theses days I will have Dirac from 20hz to 100hz-400hz.i will see for that.

 

I like shd because I have 2 dual mono subs with good results. I can set up the delay and the gain manual.  so is like dac preamp.I know it's difficult having a good dac with those functions.

 

any suggest?!

[audiobomber]

The SHD is an interesting piece, I actually ordered one twice, then cancelled and bought an exaSound streamer and DAC instead. I use a miniDSP 2X4 for my stereo subs with REW, no Dirac. I have heard Dirac is best used below 500Hz. 

 

Not to belabor a point, but did you try connecting the Hegel DAC to the SHD coax output for your main speakers? It's a no-cost option that's worth trying at least. The h190 reviews are pretty complimentary.

[Flyman]

That’s right Dirac is good below 500hz...I will say 400hz for my taste.

 

Why to do connect shd to Hegel dac?The signal will be passed from to dac i thing.

 

A Friend of mine told me that it is a good dac but they build it in a way to not perform good. Have the same chip as hd30...but is not as hd30 overall.

 

but I will try in

[audiobomber]

1 hour ago, Flyman said:

Why to do connect shd to Hegel dac?The signal will be passed from to dac i thing.

If you connect from one of the digital outputs (not the analogue outputs) from the SHD to the Hegel, you will bypass the SHD internal DAC. The SHD will then act as a Digital to Digital Converter, not a Digital to Analogue Converter. This will also bypass the streaming section of the Hegel. It is worth trying. 

[audiobomber]

Just now, audiobomber said:

If you connect from one of the digital outputs (not the analogue outputs) from the SHD to the Hegel, you will bypass the SHD's internal DAC. The SHD will then act as a DDC "Digital to Digital Converter", not a DAC "Digital to Analogue Converter". This will also bypass the streaming section of the Hegel. It is worth trying. 

 

[Flyman]

Ι didn’t know that thanx for the tip!!!!

 

I will do it tomorrow! But I try Hegel dac thought usb....well one more shoot.

 

 I have listen a lot of dacs. Mytek, benchmark dac3,naim,luxman, Bryston etc.

 

the only dac that was like vinyl was the luxman! But unfortunately it doesn’t have Ethernet. Maybe a streamer auralic with luxman will be the best choice?!

 

I am confused