akwire Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 5 hours ago, seeteeyou said: Thanksgiving Edition with further SQ improvements http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19288#p19288 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-xenomai_TG.zip https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-xenomai_TG.z01 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-xenomai_TG.z02 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-xenomai_TG.z03 Thanks for sharing. I have tried this version - I actually am unable to connect to the PCP web GUI or ssh into it (although I do see the IP appear on my network). Do you happen to know why there are issues getting into the web GUI/sshing in? Link to post Share on other sites
seeteeyou Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Someone also experienced a similar a problem, then the author recommended trying another SD card instead of USB drive here https://www.my-hiend.com/vbb/showthread.php?13157-piCorePlayer6-1-0-Xenomai-44-1-48KHz雙機入門簡易安裝教學&p=243044#post243044 He mentioned that Raspberry Pi 4 might be somewhat picky about USB storage devices due to different CPU frequencies / voltages etc. As a result, not everything would work partially if specific components of piCorePlayer were becoming dysfunctional. Link to post Share on other sites
akwire Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 5 hours ago, seeteeyou said: Someone also experienced a similar a problem, then the author recommended trying another SD card instead of USB drive here https://www.my-hiend.com/vbb/showthread.php?13157-piCorePlayer6-1-0-Xenomai-44-1-48KHz雙機入門簡易安裝教學&p=243044#post243044 He mentioned that Raspberry Pi 4 might be somewhat picky about USB storage devices due to different CPU frequencies / voltages etc. As a result, not everything would work partially if specific components of piCorePlayer were becoming dysfunctional. After trying sd card instead of usb drive still could not able to boot up? i wonder why? Link to post Share on other sites
seeteeyou Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 The author posted another update several hours ago, basically he's able to ping the IP address successfully but somehow it ain't getting any further afterwards. Then he simply tried a better USB drive and that did the trick. Not sure why that's happening, I guess that maybe the read speed of USB drives could make a difference if we're running the CPU at a specific frequency for the sake of achieving better SQ. The author said that editing the file config.txt could solve the problem if the vaule of the line arm_freq were changed to this https://docs.picoreplayer.org/how-to/edit_config_txt/ arm_freq=1600 Though it's supposed to be detrimental to the SQ according to the author. Link to post Share on other sites
seeteeyou Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Beta versions of EEPROM seemed to have something to do with both USB / SD booting as follows https://github.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom/blob/master/firmware/release-notes.md https://raw.githubusercontent.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom/master/firmware/beta/recovery.bin https://raw.githubusercontent.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom/master/firmware/beta/pieeprom-2020-11-24.bin https://raw.githubusercontent.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom/master/firmware/beta/pieeprom-2020-10-28.bin https://forum.dexterindustries.com/t/pieeprom-2020-10-28-bin-an-interesting-beta-eeprom-image-for-the-pi-4/7909 Maybe wait until the stable version is released and then try again? Link to post Share on other sites
Topk Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 10/19/2020 at 4:30 PM, seeteeyou said: Now we could add JCAT USB Card XE thanks to the PCIe 2.0 x1 slot on the I/O board https://www.cnx-software.com/2020/10/19/raspberry-pi-cm4-cm4lite-modules/ Hello - is it plug n play without driver and replaces the BBC USB port on the Pu? If yea that’s revolutionary! Link to post Share on other sites
seeteeyou Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 https://jcat.eu/featured/usb-card-xe/ Quote Next generation low latency & low noise ASM3142 USB 3.1 host controller generates a clear USB Audio datastream. In general, hardware support really depends on the kernel of whatever Linux distro we're running. More specifically, the latest releases seemed to include support for USB cards with ASM1142 / ASM2142 / ASM3142 etc. https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/usb/host/xhci-pci.c https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-5.4.y/drivers/usb/host/xhci-pci.c https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-5.10.y/drivers/usb/host/xhci-pci.c Maybe take a look at the list of USB cards here? Though all of them looked more like 5Gbps (Gen 1) cards instead of ASM3142 @ 10Gbps (Gen 2) https://pipci.jeffgeerling.com https://www.jeffgeerling.com/project/raspberry-pi-cm4-pci-express-device-database Link to post Share on other sites
Topk Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, seeteeyou said: https://jcat.eu/featured/usb-card-xe/ In general, hardware support really depends on the kernel of whatever Linux distro we're running. More specifically, the latest releases seemed to include support for USB cards with ASM1142 / ASM2142 / ASM3142 etc. https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/usb/host/xhci-pci.c https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-5.4.y/drivers/usb/host/xhci-pci.c https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-5.10.y/drivers/usb/host/xhci-pci.c Maybe take a look at the list of USB cards here? Though all of them looked more like 5Gbps (Gen 1) cards instead of ASM3142 @ 10Gbps (Gen 2) https://pipci.jeffgeerling.com https://www.jeffgeerling.com/project/raspberry-pi-cm4-pci-express-device-database Hello! Yes I saw these links. I’m just wondering if I use Volumio or Moode (and I don’t know if they are Linux based), if I use the new Pi 4 module with the PCIe and a JCAT USB XE (powered by its own LPSU), would it be recognized like an Allo USB bridge HAT would? If yes that would be incredible.! I’m looking right now online but can’t seem to find an answer... Link to post Share on other sites
seeteeyou Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 11/27/2020 at 12:25 AM, seeteeyou said: Thanksgiving Edition with further SQ improvements http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19288#p19288 Noël Edition with the best SQ in 2020 so far http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19369#p19369 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-Noel.zip https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-Noel.z01 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-Noel.z02 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-Noel.z03 CPU will be overclocked to 2.205 GHz by default, Raspberry Pi 4 Rev 1.2 or above is required and adequate cooling is essential for achieving positive results https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/revision-codes/README.md Another requirement for booting off USB drive is adequate reading speed in order to ensure that OS could start successfully. Someone already compared Noël Edition to previous releases, the latest one seemed to be the champion http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19371#p19371 Quote 這一版是我聽到最好的一版，音樂琴聲流轉，好不動人；第一次感覺喇叭不見了，amazing!!! Merry Christmas to everyone and please stay safe. Link to post Share on other sites
Topk Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Thank you so much for the link! I’m trying to make it work with shairport/airplay, do you know if they deactivated it? I can’t seem to make it work:-( Link to post Share on other sites
franz159 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 On 11/26/2020 at 5:25 PM, seeteeyou said: Thanksgiving Edition with further SQ improvements http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19288#p19288 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-xenomai_TG.zip https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-xenomai_TG.z01 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-xenomai_TG.z02 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-xenomai_TG.z03 Downloaded the files. put them together with 7zip, flashed the SD card.... it does not boot on my pi4... Link to post Share on other sites
firedog Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, franz159 said: Downloaded the files. put them together with 7zip, flashed the SD card.... it does not boot on my pi4... "flashed the SD card" - I assume you mean: extacted it and wrote it to the card with something like Win32 Disk Imager or Etcher that writes images to the card? Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +_iFi AC iPurifiers >Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Conditioning+Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Listening: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Matrix Element i Streamer/DAC (XLR)+Schiit Freya>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: RPi 3B+ running RoPieee to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post franz159 Posted January 5 Popular Post Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, firedog said: "flashed the SD card" - I assume you mean: extacted it and wrote it to the card with something like Win32 Disk Imager or Etcher that writes images to the card? Yes flashed the image on the card using Balena Etcher... Since piCorePlyer is one of the few distros of raspberry that I hadn't tested out yet over the years (RuneAudio, Volumio, Audiophile Linux, Moode, RoopieeeXL, Gentooplayer..) I then tried the official piCorePlayer (ver 7.0.0 23-Dec-2020) and it worked flawlessly at first attempt. It sounds good but probably slightly "thinner" than Squeezelite-R2 on Gentoplayer. In any case, at the end of the day, for the moment I'm staying on Gentooplayer wjhich is giving me many more "tools" to use: in first place I can select on the fly to use either the "LMS+Squeezelite" reproduction ecosystem, or the "MPD+upmpdcli+BubbleUPnPServer" one I have additional "useful" commodities such as Airplay or Spotify Connect I do not use it as NAA for HQplayer or Roon, but I could, should I decide to do it in the future.... I have MinimServer with its intelligent browsing feature which is quite unique.... if well configured it becomes really "unbeatable" for Classical Music properly tagged, IMO superior event to Roon in that espect (the forumer @stefano_mbp is quite knowledgeable about this..) DuckToller and szczemirek 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Topk Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I was able to make the 44khz version work with shairport, just had to select the right output, you need to try a few of the different options Link to post Share on other sites
DomiJi Posted Wednesday at 08:29 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:29 AM On 12/24/2020 at 3:43 PM, seeteeyou said: Noël Edition with the best SQ in 2020 so far http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19369#p19369 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-Noel.zip https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-Noel.z01 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-Noel.z02 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/master/piCorePlayer6.1.0-Noel.z03 CPU will be overclocked to 2.205 GHz by default, Raspberry Pi 4 Rev 1.2 or above is required and adequate cooling is essential for achieving positive results https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/revision-codes/README.md Another requirement for booting off USB drive is adequate reading speed in order to ensure that OS could start successfully. Someone already compared Noël Edition to previous releases, the latest one seemed to be the champion http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19371#p19371 Merry Christmas to everyone and please stay safe. Thank you so much! This is truly amazing and sounds so good. What specific settings did you use on the Squeezelite page of piCorePlayer? I use a DAC/Amp on the USB output of my Pi4 (8GB) and i am not sure what settings are the best in terms of ALSA buffer and so on. I would really appreciate your help :-) Link to post Share on other sites
DuckToller Posted Wednesday at 12:09 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:09 PM 3 hours ago, DomiJi said: What specific settings did you use on the Squeezelite page of piCorePlayer? I would guess settings would be specific (contrary to generic) for the DAC in use ?? Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post seeteeyou Posted Wednesday at 12:22 PM Popular Post Share Posted Wednesday at 12:22 PM 3 hours ago, DomiJi said: Thank you so much! This is truly amazing and sounds so good. Fantastic, many thanks for your positive feedback and so far it's been a winner consistently for the owners of RPi4 who gave it a try. I'll let the author know your kind words since he should be working on pCP 7.0.0 with kernel version 5.10 already, though that wouldn't be released until it's actually surpassing the performance of Noël Edition. Adding Xenomai support while adjusting the kernel timer frequency seemed to be the "secret sauce" that's hitting the jackpot, let's see if anyone were able to get 1411.2 KHz kernel timer frequency working with those Xeon processors on x86 platform then. BTW, 32fs (i.e. 1536 and 1411.2) could very well be the "magic number" for a few DACs out there (e.g. Musician Audio Pegasus and Denafrips etc.) http://blog.livedoor.jp/johnny_trio_lsr/archives/2250510.html 3 hours ago, DomiJi said: What specific settings did you use on the Squeezelite page of piCorePlayer? I use a DAC/Amp on the USB output of my Pi4 (8GB) and i am not sure what settings are the best in terms of ALSA buffer and so on. I would really appreciate your help :-) Regarding Squeezelite settings, most likely the "best" settings should be system-dependent while I would also take the author's suggested ones into considerations https://github.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/tree/master/setting http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19160#p19160 Basically he mentioned that buffer size should be increased if there were pops and clicks in audio. I haven't tried this myself, though someone else liked this custom build of Squeezelite by soundcheck (Klaus Schulz) https://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/p/the-engine.html https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=348&t=5840425&p=41#80395430 DuckToller and DomiJi 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DomiJi Posted Wednesday at 01:05 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:05 PM I've installed the Squeezelite by soundcheck and it runs flawless... i will post some impressions later 😀 Link to post Share on other sites
DomiJi Posted yesterday at 12:03 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:03 PM Overall the NOEL piCorePlayer Version in combination with the Squeezelite version by soundcheck sounds absolutely amazing. I've overclocked the CPU to 2.2 GHz as well with no serious problems as long as you got a good case for the pi. I a passive case from Miuzei: This setup can easily compared to a lot more expensive streaming solutions. I also made some good experience with USB reclockers like the Oehlbach XXL MasterClock or the UpTone USB Regen. I personally use the Oehlbach MasterClock: And very important is a good power solution. For the Pi and the MasterClock i use TeraDak DC 30 PowerSupplies: Overall not the cheapest solution but it sounds so damn good! Link to post Share on other sites
al2813 Posted yesterday at 01:17 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:17 PM 1 hour ago, DomiJi said: Overall the NOEL piCorePlayer Version in combination with the Squeezelite version by soundcheck sounds absolutely amazing. I've overclocked the CPU to 2.2 GHz as well with no serious problems as long as you got a good case for the pi. I a passive case from Miuzei: This setup can easily compared to a lot more expensive streaming solutions. I also made some good experience with USB reclockers like the Oehlbach XXL MasterClock or the UpTone USB Regen. I personally use the Oehlbach MasterClock: And very important is a good power solution. For the Pi and the MasterClock i use TeraDak DC 30 PowerSupplies: Overall not the cheapest solution but it sounds so damn good! Thanks for the interesting feedback! I briefly tested the November release and couldn't get the Noel one working. I discovered the reason I think. The Pi I was using was a revision 1.1. I do have a second Pi and this one is 1.2 so can try and get this to work. couple of questions: - Were you actually able to compare your setup with a properly setup X86 system? - You have two Teradak DC 30? one for the pi and one for the reclocker? Link to post Share on other sites
DomiJi Posted yesterday at 02:08 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:08 PM 48 minutes ago, al2813 said: Thanks for the interesting feedback! I briefly tested the November release and couldn't get the Noel one working. I discovered the reason I think. The Pi I was using was a revision 1.1. I do have a second Pi and this one is 1.2 so can try and get this to work. couple of questions: - Were you actually able to compare your setup with a properly setup X86 system? - You have two Teradak DC 30? one for the pi and one for the reclocker? Correct - i have one TeraDak DC 30 with 5V for the Pi and one TeraDak DC30 7V for the USB Reclocker. I can only compare it to my X86 Desktop-Setup with Audirvana and my "old" Allo USBridge. And the Pi combo definately sounds better than both of them. Link to post Share on other sites
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