Audirvana Sorting

[stefano_mbp]

9 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Nobody would every write Pearl Jam as Jam, Pearl. Yet, in Audirvana it's there for "Sort As."

Aurirvana user here.

Audirvana do not write anything in the SortArtist tag, thus someone else wrote it there .... try to check the original file.

I can say that metadata from Qobuz, PrestoClassical, HDTracks and other are mostly a real mess

I use Yate to edit metadata and I built a macro that erase everything from metadata (except tracks titles) .... to stay safe ...

[stefano_mbp]

.... if you find that SortArtist is wrong it’s easy to change the value all over your db without the need to find every album.

Just search for the Artist, in the search result panel click on the Artist, then open the metadata editing area on the right, only Artist Name and “sort as”  will be shown, change the value for “sort as”.

This will change the “sort as” value for the Artist all over your db.

... very easy

[stefano_mbp]

6 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Are you 100% sure Audirvana didn’t write this tag

101% ...

[stefano_mbp]

12 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

However, Audirvana is the only one to use this tag

To better explain ....

in flac files the ArtistSort tag exists

if it is filled then Audirvana will consider it and use it.

it is sufficient that only one album has this characteristic, then the value in the Audirvana db will be changed and will have value for all the albums of that Artist (even if the other albums do not have that value)

this is because in the Audirvana db that Artist is one (and only one) index

 

 

[stefano_mbp]

.... a hint to speed up this “terrific” task ...

maybe you have MinimServer installed somewhere.

Minimserver has a nice feature to analyze which tags are filled with.

Go to Properties menu of Minimserver, go to Advanced tab.

At the bottom of that tab you’ll find the writeAllTags property,

fill it with the path/name of a .txt file,

save and launch the rescan of the library.

At the end of the rescan you’ll find the .txt file filled with all the tags used in your archive.

Search for ArtistSort tag and you’ll find which ArtistSort-Artist is affected by the issue ....

 

 

[stefano_mbp]

9 hours ago, lucretius said:

The Artist Sort

the tag name is ArtistSort and not Artist Sort ..... no spaces between the two words

The ArtistSort tag is a Vorbis standard for flac (and other formats), "Artist Sort" is a custom tag, a space make the difference ....

Here the structure of Vorbis standard tags (among others)

https://2manyrobots.com/YateResources/InAppHelp/TagMappingTable.html

(find Sort Artist on the left column "Field", for that row you'll find in the fifth column "Vorbis"  the tag name ARTISTSORT)

As already said: if ArtistSort tag exist (ie is filled) then Audirvana will copy it in sort_name (displayed in the UI as "sort as") db field (attribute of Audirvana db index Artist).

As Artist is an index then the attribute sort_name can be only one ... of course

here attached the two views of the Audirvana db (sqlite)

Artist index structure

Artist index conent (in my db)

 

Would you like to go deep in the Audirvana db you can download the SQLITE Browser (end editor) here

https://sqlitebrowser.org/dl/

... be careful, open the db in read only mode if you are not used to this tool