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Marantz introduced a new Integrated and SACD Player/Network player today


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The 30 series consisting of the Model 30 Integrated Amp and 30n SACD player/network player.

 

The Integrated is using the Hypex Ncore class D amplifiers, meaning GUTB already hates it. The Network player does USB PCM up to 384khz and DSD to 11.2 Mhz.

 

Specs and all related info can be found here: https://www.us.marantz.com/en-us/30-series

 

 

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13 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

The 30 series consisting of the Model 30 Integrated Amp and 30n SACD player/network player.

 

The Integrated is using the Hypex Ncore class D amplifiers, meaning GUTB already hates it. The Network player does USB PCM up to 384khz and DSD to 11.2 Mhz.

 

Specs and all related info can be found here: https://www.us.marantz.com/en-us/30-series

 

 

Model30.png

Model 30n.png

 

Class D? Embarrassing trash. I guess that's the state of Marantz.

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On 9/5/2020 at 6:48 AM, AudioDoctor said:

 

Solid State amplifiers sucked at their inception as well...

 

 Have you seen any other type of Class D amplifier ?

 A Vacuum tube type should make many of the Vinyl brigade happy too  😉

How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file.

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3 hours ago, sandyk said:

 Have you seen any other type of Class D amplifier ?

 

Any other type?  Are you also implying that they all suck?

 

I actually haven't heard any of them, but I'm also not ready to dismiss an entire class of amplification.

 

edit: yeah, I just got that. I know all class D is solid state. I guess I should have been more clear and said Class A/B and A solid state.

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1 hour ago, AudioDoctor said:

Are you also implying that they all suck?

 

 Many of the cheaper ones could be used for artificial Gravity on the Space Station. 😋

 

How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file.

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2 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

I am about to buy this Marantz just to spite you and GUTB and PM you both daily about how great it sounds.

 

I was under the impression that you were a Vacuum Tube person ? In which case you may be disappointed with typical (NOT ALL) Class D offerings.

How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file.

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57 minutes ago, 4est said:

Does someone need to be one or the other?

Judging by many of the replies in this forum, many have strong preferences for one or the other, just as many have strong preferences for Vinyl over Digital.. 

How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file.

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On 9/5/2020 at 2:47 AM, GUTB said:

 

Class D? Embarrassing trash. I guess that's the state of Marantz.

 I doubt that Ken Ishiwata would be happy about it if he was still alive , but for companies to prosper these days they need to find a way to reduce costs and respond to customer demand, even if ill informed.

 Class D was mainly foisted on us by the energy reduction demands of the E.U. who we can probably also blame to a large extent for the proliferation of cheap and nasty SMPS wallwarts, even for L.E.D. lighting. It is however undeniable that many professional SMPS PSUs are very good, and don't pollute the A.C. mains supply either.

I am surprised that they didn't find a way too, to  completely BAN Class A S.S amplifiers and Vacuum Tube amplifiers while they were at it

How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file.

PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020

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11 hours ago, sandyk said:

Judging by many of the replies in this forum, many have strong preferences for one or the other, just as many have strong preferences for Vinyl over Digital.. 

I do not see it as thus. Liking equipment doesn't mean you align towards their technology as much as their implementation. Good gear can be had in both, and the better either SS or tube examples sound, the more they sound alike. This is nothing like vinyl vs digital even though I agree all have some die hards.

Forrest:

Win10 i9 9900KS/GTX1060 HQPlayer4>Win10 NAA

DSD>Pavel's DSC2.6>Bent Audio TAP>

Parasound JC1>"Naked" Quad ESL63/Tannoy PS350B subs<100Hz

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1 hour ago, Rexp said:

Since Chris went to the trouble of adding a section for Analog components, I bet he was delighted to see this thread. 

 I am nor sure that these 2 products really fit in here though, as Class D amplifiers and the SACD player use  Digital technology

 Many who have asked for this area would have been thinking more along the lines of Vinyl ,and analogue Tape Decks for example

How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file.

PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020

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20 minutes ago, R1200CL said:


Take one min and read second line in header of the forum 😀

 

For sure class D amps qualifies. 

 SACD Players also have an Analogue area but they aren't included.

Besides which, Class D amplifiers have been well covered elsewhere for quite some time. I believe that the original intention was most likely purely Analogue devices without Digital conversions internally.. 

How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file.

PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020

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