Audiophiles: Dead or Dying?

[AudioDoctor]

  

3 minutes ago, John Dyson said:

Interesting fact is that there is some implication in the syndrome that those who really know what they are talking about sometimes UNDERESTIMATE their knowledge.   Geesh, I cannot remember the name of that syndrome...   I guess I don't know :-).

 

John

 

 

 

Dunning Kreuger?

 

And I just got the joke... I think. Still working on morning coffee.

[John Dyson]

3 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

  

 

 

Dunning Kreuger?

 

And I just got the joke... I think. Still working on morning coffee.

Bingo...   I do find the syndrome really interesting in a way.   I have seen the manifestation in my self and others, not intending to be accusatory -- just interesting.

[lucretius]

2 hours ago, John Dyson said:

Interesting fact is that there is some implication in the syndrome that those who really know what they are talking about sometimes UNDERESTIMATE their knowledge.   Geesh, I cannot remember the name of that syndrome...   I guess I don't know :-).

 

John

 

 

Imposter syndrome (not to be confused with Capgras syndrome). OTH, gradual and worsening memory loss is one of the most commonly described symptoms of dementia. 🙁

[Albrecht]

15 hours ago, lucretius said:

Don't let all that energy go to waste. 😀

 

Don't worry, - not spending any: unlike some, - I am not here to attack audiophiles (on an audiophile website), - and call them stupid.....

 

Now that shit is the REAL wasted energy...

 

 

[kumakuma]

1 hour ago, Albrecht said:

I am not here to attack audiophiles (on an audiophile website), - and call them stupid.....

 

You need to report those folks to Chris. He has zero tolerance for that kind of name calling.

[Albrecht]

1 hour ago, kumakuma said:

 

You need to report those folks to Chris. He has zero tolerance for that kind of name calling.

No, - I don't, - I'll just respond to their posts. 

[kumakuma]

7 minutes ago, Albrecht said:

No, - I don't, - I'll just respond to their posts. 

 

Thank you for your service...

[Albrecht]

9 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

 

Thank you for your service...

no no no no no no, - THANK YOU for yours!!

[Audiophile Neuroscience]

8 hours ago, John Dyson said:

Interesting fact is that there is some implication in the syndrome that those who really know what they are talking about sometimes UNDERESTIMATE their knowledge.   Geesh, I cannot remember the name of that syndrome...   I guess I don't know :-).

 

 

 

Yes I agree that an underestimation of abilities can occur in bright people due to a misperception about the heightened abilities of others. This is above my pay grade and I feel sure others will correct me 😜🤣

[GUTB]

I don't think failing to appreciate good quality audio is an ability issue. Well, I guess you could be hard of hearing or have some neurological condition. There are people definitely more discerning in their senses than others; for example, most people who hear high-resolution music can tell it's better, but may not be able to clearly define what, specifically, is better about it.

 

People who deny the existence of high quality audio aren't deaf, they just have a ego / identity to protect so they don't try finding it for themselves. Take whatever low-end chip-amp, switching power, opamp consumer 10-lbs speaker trash systems they have: sit them down in front of my or any of the audiophile's systems on this forum and is he SERIOUSLY going to claim he can't immediately tell the vast superiority in sound?

[John Dyson]

13 hours ago, GUTB said:

I don't think failing to appreciate good quality audio is an ability issue. Well, I guess you could be hard of hearing or have some neurological condition. There are people definitely more discerning in their senses than others; for example, most people who hear high-resolution music can tell it's better, but may not be able to clearly define what, specifically, is better about it.

 

People who deny the existence of high quality audio aren't deaf, they just have a ego / identity to protect so they don't try finding it for themselves. Take whatever low-end chip-amp, switching power, opamp consumer 10-lbs speaker trash systems they have: sit them down in front of my or any of the audiophile's systems on this forum and is he SERIOUSLY going to claim he can't immediately tell the vast superiority in sound?

Sometimes the problem with being satisfied is TOO MUCH acuity and being too aware of the impairments.

 

John

[botrytis]

14 hours ago, GUTB said:

I don't think failing to appreciate good quality audio is an ability issue. Well, I guess you could be hard of hearing or have some neurological condition. There are people definitely more discerning in their senses than others; for example, most people who hear high-resolution music can tell it's better, but may not be able to clearly define what, specifically, is better about it.

 

People who deny the existence of high quality audio aren't deaf, they just have a ego / identity to protect so they don't try finding it for themselves. Take whatever low-end chip-amp, switching power, opamp consumer 10-lbs speaker trash systems they have: sit them down in front of my or any of the audiophile's systems on this forum and is he SERIOUSLY going to claim he can't immediately tell the vast superiority in sound?

 

I think the issue is people don't want the big boxes around any more. Most people like their phones and headsets and that is where it is going. I went to ah headgear meet up once and it was an eye opener. I mean mostly college age people with 1-8 pairs of expensive headphones (between 500 to 2500 USD a pair) and DAC/headphone amps. Yes, they were listening to high res files (mostly) some still used MP3's but heck it is what it is. It was a neat meet.

[tapatrick]

2 hours ago, botrytis said:

 

I think the issue is people don't want the big boxes around any more. Most people like their phones and headsets and that is where it is going. I went to ah headgear meet up once and it was an eye opener. I mean mostly college age people with 1-8 pairs of expensive headphones (between 500 to 2500 USD a pair) and DAC/headphone amps. Yes, they were listening to high res files (mostly) some still used MP3's but heck it is what it is. It was a neat meet.

I asked my daughter and partner who are in their 20's about this and how people in their circles listen to music - so that would have been up to 150 people or more. They said nearly all had headphones, many had good quality and it was common to have £300+ headsets.

 

They knew only 2 people who had more serious stereo setups - one because they were a gamer and one who they thought had the best stereo system. They were in the music business and didn't buy their own equipment. Small survey but supports the headphone trend.

[Audiophile Neuroscience]

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