RDaneel2 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 New Sig, immediately jumped to 70 C - even after adjusting the power usage control down to "Conservative". Trying to install newer version of DietPi - hoping it might help with power usage / temperature - but it repeatedly fails with APT install process saying that it is unable to locate rpi-eeprom and rpi-eeprom-images... no, multiple retries make no difference. According to the history, version 6.27 is both one that contains "power optimizations" (hope they make a difference) and it also seems to be where these 2 items are first introduced(?). So I really want this one. Any suggestions? Or questions? Link to comment
RDaneel2 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 So... I got some help over on the DietPi forums. The take-aways: 1) using the "Change command" menu entry shown in the screenshot above, I was able to remove the the 2 "missing" files rpi-eeprom[-images], and this allowed the dietpi-update to actually complete, and it claims my Pi is now running DietPi 6.31.2 2) it was suggested in the DietPi forum that running Debian "Stretch" should possibly be re-examined(?) 3) my CPU temp appears to have settled @ 67 C - so maybe those updates were helpful - but we also have to remember that the Pi isn't actually doing anything besides running the "Dashboard" at this point - is Roon Bridge a very demanding app that will drive the CPU temp up? 4) While I haven't done an actual "reboot" - should I? - I can say that the Dashboard now no longer lets me disable the other services shown - it says "disabled", but after I save that new state, they all come back "enabled" Link to comment
clipper Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Roon Bridge is not demanding. I know this isn't what you asked, but if you have a spare SD card, try GentooPlayer sometime (instead of DietPi). http://gentooplayer.com/ Link to comment
RDaneel2 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Thanks for the Roon comment - my understanding is that all the heavy lifting is done wherever the Roon Core is running, but I still don't know what may or may not be involved with pulling apart a stream of RAAT packets and arranging for the delivery of re-timed SPDIF signal to the coax output. Yes, the Gentoo comment is also appreciated, and I may need to dig up this "Etcher" SW and whatever USB-connected "EEPROM-writer" device I need... but I was actually hoping this would just be the Plug and Play "audiophile" device it was reputed to be. I actually am a software dev, but this is well away from my usual platforms, and I am not really looking for new rabbit-holes to disappear down - as fun as that can be. 😝 I really would like to see some Allo folks weigh in here... I am not feeling hopeful on the CPU temp issue, and tried to ask Allo about some of the things I have seen about the Sig running too hot before I purchased mine - but I didn't even get a response to that question. Maybe they should be actively steering people towards the 3+ instead of the 4? If this thing doesn't cool down - and again, it isn't even doing anything yet - I don't know what will be the right to do? Maybe Allo will offer to extend my warranty, if they think these temps (69-71 C and up) are "OK"? I don't really want a key component of my system to be living on borrowed time, just waiting to fail from prolonged overheating. 😬 Link to comment
Audio_Allo Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 3 hours ago, RDaneel2 said: Thanks for the Roon comment - my understanding is that all the heavy lifting is done wherever the Roon Core is running, but I still don't know what may or may not be involved with pulling apart a stream of RAAT packets and arranging for the delivery of re-timed SPDIF signal to the coax output. Yes, the Gentoo comment is also appreciated, and I may need to dig up this "Etcher" SW and whatever USB-connected "EEPROM-writer" device I need... but I was actually hoping this would just be the Plug and Play "audiophile" device it was reputed to be. I actually am a software dev, but this is well away from my usual platforms, and I am not really looking for new rabbit-holes to disappear down - as fun as that can be. 😝 I really would like to see some Allo folks weigh in here... I am not feeling hopeful on the CPU temp issue, and tried to ask Allo about some of the things I have seen about the Sig running too hot before I purchased mine - but I didn't even get a response to that question. Maybe they should be actively steering people towards the 3+ instead of the 4? If this thing doesn't cool down - and again, it isn't even doing anything yet - I don't know what will be the right to do? Maybe Allo will offer to extend my warranty, if they think these temps (69-71 C and up) are "OK"? I don't really want a key component of my system to be living on borrowed time, just waiting to fail from prolonged overheating. 😬 Forwarded PM please check Link to comment
RDaneel2 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Still would like to hear about the update failure issue, not to mention the vintage of the version of Debian still being "expected" - and let's not forget that the DietPi guys are right now testing out a 64-bit image for DietPi! In the good news category, a search for what people are thinking - and doing - about the excessive heat issues with RPi 4 turned up Raspberry Pi 4 getting hot? A closer look ... with the extremely useful suggestion "if possible set up the Pi 4 to run in a vertical position, to improve air flow across the board and heat removal from both sides of the board". For me, this resulted in a drop from 70-71 C down to 60-61 C! 😊 So, this means that while not ideal in terms of heat management - something "targeted" should really be done, at least I am not as concerned with the little thing cooking itself in the immediate future. Link to comment
dsnyder Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Sounds about right. The RPi4 is hot, even with the latest firmware. Stuffing it under a HAT is going (as is done with the new DigiOne Sig) is going to result in poor airflow and temperatures in the 60's for sure…even when it's just idling. Link to comment
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