Summit Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Mike48 said: Yes, here are two. There have been slight changes, but this shows the basics. Did you chose your acoustic treatment after measuring the room or just what treatment that seemed "fitting"? Link to comment
Hiker Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Sure your room is as important as any components you can choose . Our previous home I used a large detached garage with vault ceilings in the 2nd story my Magnapan speakers thrived in our new home no such luck and with nothing I could do about the dimensions of the only room I could use I was forced me to sell the Magnapans . For now I use a headphone system , they sound fantastic and no room issues . Link to comment
MarkusBarkus Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 @Mike48that is a very nice looking room, even low-profile ceiling treatments. Maybe something on the door too?Sweet. It looks like it's below grade, like my room, which is also well treated. Like you, I found some reflective treatments mixed with adsorption on the front wall were preferable. I tried with and without, and preferred the more "mixing of sound" approach. It sounded a bit dead with only "trapping" up front. I also added a few very good replica faux plants, which create additional high-end mixing...kind of an organic fractal reflector. Really like the room and I bet it sounds good too. Thanks for the pics... Mike48 1 I'm MarkusBarkus and I approve this post. Link to comment
ASRMichael Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Was Room Acoustic treatment. Now it’s PGGB. Link to comment
Popular Post ecwl Posted May 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2021 I’m going to cheat a bit with my answer. It’s my USB microphone (currently miniDSP UMIK-1) that led to the most improvement to my system. I think a lot of people already said room acoustics, including speaker placement, seat placement, room treatment usually lead to the most improvement which I concur. This to me is followed by a proper convolution filter (or at least parametric EQ). However, with both room treatment and DSP, it is extremely easy to screw up. So as a starting point, you need a microphone to actually measure what changes you’re actually making. The microphone won’t tell you where to place your speakers or how to program your parametric EQ but it’s a must-have if you want to start figuring it out. Confused and LarryMagoo 2 Link to comment
Mike48 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Summit said: Did you chose your acoustic treatment after measuring the room or just what treatment that seemed "fitting"? More the latter. After all, every room needs bass trapping, first-reflection control, and reduction of slap echo. The measurement came in when trying to minimize SBIR. Also, I had panels and traps left over from a previous room and used them as part of this setup. There has been ongoing experimentation of what sounds best where. Link to comment
LarryMagoo Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 After trying a Dirac system and being disappointed that their system involves another ADC to DAC before being sent to the preamp, undoes all the work my DAC did. So I went with HAF building custom convolutions for me, to install into Roon, that made the biggest improvement in my system. The bottom ends sounds great and plays nice with the rest of the Freq. Response....from even low volumes and scales nicely! https://www.homeaudiofidelity.com Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, LarryMagoo said: After trying a Dirac system and being disappointed that their system involves another ADC to DAC before being sent to the preamp, undoes all the work my DAC did. That, of course, depends on the architecture of your system. In many, Dirac (which is, itself, digital in and out without conversion) can be implemented to avoid redundant conversions. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
LarryMagoo Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Kal Rubinson said: That, of course, depends on the architecture of your system. In many, Dirac (which is, itself, digital in and out without conversion) can be implemented to avoid redundant conversions. That may be true but then you're adding yet another Box, with AC, more cables and connections! This route is unnecessary when adding convolutions to the best Music Playing software on the planet! Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, LarryMagoo said: That may be true but then you're adding yet another Box, with AC, more cables and connections! This route is unnecessary when adding convolutions to the best Music Playing software on the planet! Well, if you are stuck with Roon 😉, you have to deal with its limitations. OTOH, there are other EQ systems which will generate convolution filters compatible with Roon and which can be done by the end user any time needed. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
LarryMagoo Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I'm not "stuck" with Roon....it's the best Music management software available! The rest are just pretenders... HAF does a great job of building my filters that lets my system provide me the most enjoyment possible. Link to comment
Popular Post Kal Rubinson Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 hours ago, LarryMagoo said: I'm not "stuck" with Roon.... Please note the smiley. I could have said "If you are fully committed to using only Roon........" Anyway, you have already illustrated that Roon has some limitations as, indeed, do all the other players. botrytis and Mike48 2 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Chris_87 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 The Tascam ML-16D instead of the Behringer DCX2496 crossovers and an old PC used as crossover Link to comment
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