Audiophile Neuroscience Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 4 hours ago, fas42 said: You see, Virginia, you don't have to be rich to enjoy the best of music; be part of a special club that those with less play money can't join I can enjoy the best of music on a car radio. That doesn't make it the best sounding music. Can tweaking Virginia's budget system make it sound like... 5 hours ago, fas42 said: I've mentioned numerous times hearing the best Bryston monoblocks driving close to the best Dynaudio speakers, at the last Sydney show - this nailed the SQ, plus had usable SPL headroom well above what I work with ... if someone offered me that combo to play with, I would not have hesistated. Teresa 1 Sound Minds Mind Sound Link to comment
Popular Post Audiophile Neuroscience Posted June 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, fas42 said: 2 hours ago, Audiophile Neuroscience said: Can tweaking Virginia's budget system make it sound like... No ... but the only significant limitations would the the quality of the very low bass, and the maximum volume that would be possible - with the right material, and volumes, it should be close to impossible to pick which was which, in a blind test. Frank I took this shot in 2012 inside the Palladium....I had no idea the show was about you !! 😁 Teresa, sphinxsix, sandyk and 2 others 1 1 3 Sound Minds Mind Sound Link to comment
Popular Post Audiophile Neuroscience Posted June 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2020 4 hours ago, beerandmusic said: Yea, i have tried several DSD dacs, korg being one of probably 10...i loved it for the audiogate software and it sounded really good to me when using audiogate. There is something magic about the schiit sound, but apparently (according to miska and pkane) it is crap by measurements and can't even accurately recreate a 1k sine signal. My gist of it was that a 16 bit R2R @ 192 Fs would produce measurable differences at the DAC output and in the audible range. This is not the same as saying it is audible. I believe the main thrust from @Miska was that DA conversion could be improved with DSP algorithms/ upsampling/ filters and this may or may not yield subjective SQ improvements (many apparently do hear improvements). All that said the choice of DAC is still important as all dacs do not perform the same. Measurements do not not tell the whole story. There is no free lunch - only you can decide what you like - measurements can help guide you decide what to listen to, sometimes they will correlate with what you hear, sometimes not. audiobomber, AnotherSpin and sandyk 2 1 Sound Minds Mind Sound Link to comment
Popular Post Audiophile Neuroscience Posted June 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2020 9 hours ago, beerandmusic said: Yea, I am not sure what the schiits do differently that (at least to my ears) make them sound more lively, more like "real music" compared to about 10 different dsd dacs i have tried. Who cares why if it sounds great. It seems you have found that in Schiit multibit DACs Quote But i do want a dac that does what it is supposed to do, Sounding great is arguably the most important job a DAC has to do. 1 hour ago, beerandmusic said: It's kind of tiring....it will be nice once a dac can do what it is supposed to do...to isolate noise and to accurately reproduce an analog signal that was previously digitized... Beery it appears you want measurements to validate what your hear. Look at them as a guide not a prescription. At this point in time people who buy audio solely on measurements are IMO following faith based predictions. I am pretty sure if Mike Moffat was here he may well present other measurements that seem to support his design. Then again, so what. 49 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: I just wish audio engineers would concentrate on fixing the DAC instead of all of the spaghetti and band-aids... Implementation will vary. You can choose what you like Quote Someone will think outside of the box sometime and figure it out. Arguably the most important box is inside your skull, figuring out what you like, not what you are supposed to like. Superdad and Teresa 2 Sound Minds Mind Sound Link to comment
Audiophile Neuroscience Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Superdad said: Sorry, the couple that knows how to dance does not come with it. Showing my objectivist alter-ego, I only like the measurements on one of them anyway !🥰 Superdad 1 Sound Minds Mind Sound Link to comment
Audiophile Neuroscience Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: so funny.... I just joined audio “science” review, and they seem to get more upset about even suggesting usb noise is a problem, where here it is like life & death wow moments....it's hard to believe there is such division...just like politics, i am right in the middle...ughgghg...this world sucks...i am an outcast wherever i go. Did you find much "science" there Beery ? opus101 1 Sound Minds Mind Sound Link to comment
Audiophile Neuroscience Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, beerandmusic said: For now, i find myself in the middle, but still lean more toward measurements and logic. Although i don't necessarily agree with all of "their views" (they seem more like groupies than this site), it was enlightening and entertaining, that it actually helped my recent frustration just knowing there were people with different views on both sides of the fence....from one extreme to the other....much like politics and news today....this world is f'ing crazy. The assumption in there Beery is that one side is more "logical" than the other, the side that favors measurements. Sometimes measurements may be flawed and/or meaningless. When accurate, sometimes subjective interpretation of the measurement is offered as science fact. As I see it, this is neither objective nor logical and hardly scientific. Teresa 1 Sound Minds Mind Sound Link to comment
Audiophile Neuroscience Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Superdad said: So I read--with some amusement--your foray over at ASR. You did not get very far there, though there were plenty of people happy to jump out and call you a fool for even asking the questions. ASR, Audio Sci-Fi Review? So now we have HiFi, Objective-Fi and Sci-Fi 🤣 You might need an electron microscope to find the science over at Audio Sci-Fi ...🙄 Teresa 1 Sound Minds Mind Sound Link to comment
Audiophile Neuroscience Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Superdad said: No you could go over to WhatsBestForum and get the other extreme. There they will talk about and spend $$$ on things that will make your head spin. I have been visiting lately and overall I find them a happy friendly bunch with varied opinions just like here. There is acknowledgement of WBF Wallets Big Forum vs Whats Best Forum for sure. I do like to hear about What's best (subjective as that is) and that may or may not include money no object. Whatever one's budget i think you still can be value driven. I realize this hits raw nerves for some, especially if they feel it is extravagant or unnecessary (for them). For me, there are many things I cannot afford but still admire and consider of value and worth. Superdad 1 Sound Minds Mind Sound Link to comment
Audiophile Neuroscience Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Exactly how I look at things as well. For example: A thing of great beauty. I know what the police would call me if seen driving it tho.....THIEF! 🤣 sandyk 1 Sound Minds Mind Sound Link to comment
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