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13 hours ago, Daniel1969 said:

Hello all. It seems that people are talking here about a new product that is similar to Denafrips ones. In my opinion this is very true. Because I live close to Sandu from soundnews and we know each other for many years he was very nice and lent me Denafrips Venus after he had done his review. It is a great DAC and deserves a great system to shine. Also... few days ago he uploaded his review on the Musician DAC. I asked him to lend it to me for a while. After listening to it for a few days I decided to sell my European DAC, which is 2 1/2 times more expensive and I bought the sample Musician DAC from Sandu... In my opinion his reviews are honest and mostly based on listening to the DACs thru headphones. I do not like headphones too much... so, my own impresions are based on loudspeakers systems evaluation of hifi components.

 

Beeing new on this site I will not try to stirr the waters.

 

I had bad experiences with chinese DACs in the past... concerning fiability... so, I avoided them till now.


Anyway... IMHO, this DAC is a marvel at this price point. The USB card seems similar to the Denafrips new one, but the drivers are different, at least for Windows based systems. 
 

How it sounds in my opinion?

 

If you(the comunity) will ask me to write my own review I will do it in a few days... 

 

P. S. Please, excuse my English mistakes. It is not my native language!

 

 

If you've listened to the Venus and the Pegasus how do they compare ? 

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The rare o-core transformers caught my eye. Denafrips uses them (and declares they are made in house) but so does Holo Audio. As far as I know that’s all. Transformer in the Musician is a regular toroidal. 

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19 hours ago, DrMikeOz said:

If you've listened to the Venus and the Pegasus how do they compare ? 


I couldn't do a proper comparison between the two DAC's because Venus was in my system a few months before. Since then I did some upgrades of my power filters and cables and these made their own differences. So... I cannot make a valuable statement on this matter. Still... Venus is a very good DAC and most probably needs a very good system to shine as I always said. But, at the moment I listened to Venus I had another DAC in my system: Nuprime DAC 10H. I can make a comparison with that one.

 

Nuprime DAC 10H is a Sabre 9018K2M based  and the sound signature is different than Venus (Nuprime claims it is very neutral). While Venus was smooth and musical,10H seemed a bit more transparent (both on USB) and dynamic. But... I could feel that Venus needs a long burn in time. When I listen to it the first time was a total disaster... after about an hour things changed dramatically in a good way. Hi end DACs need to be on all the time in my opinion... 

 

My review on Pegasus will be delivered here soon, because I need a bit more days to be sure it has settled in. It will be my first written review, so you should take it with a pinch of salt... anyway, as a spoiler I can tell I am pleased, till now, about what I am hearing.

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Btw... if you want to read a good review on Venus:

 

http://highfidelity.pl/@main-968&lang=en

 

I quote:

"And the Denafrips converter is perfect in what it does. It offers beautiful colors and great resolution. However, it is not very selective and has no clearly defined bass attack. Space for it is only a background for instruments that are large, firm and tangible. So it's a specialized product. Powerful rock, country, rap, hip-hop - all these recordings will be smoothed and sound "polite". But all the rest will sound great. Even such demanding, dense productions as George Michael's new digital single This Is How (We Want You To Get High) ( MQA 24/96). "


 

The review is professionally elaborated and my findings were similar! 

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In the various correspondence some of you have had with Musician, has the company clarified who does the warranty service (Is there a U.S. service center? If not, is the buyer responsible for shipping to China?) and how long the warranty is?

 

Josh

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1 hour ago, JoshM said:

In the various correspondence some of you have had with Musician, has the company clarified who does the warranty service (Is there a U.S. service center? If not, is the buyer responsible for shipping to China?) and how long the warranty is?

 

Josh

I can’t get Musician to respond to anything right now. 


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if I can say my opinion,
musician-audio does not seem to have subtracted the know out from denafrips ....... bought a project (or part of it) and implemented some things.
or is not it? 🤔


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HDPlex Server ( i7-6700-WS2016 ) HQPlayer  with Ramdisk + HQPDcontrol >cable network > TPlink mc 110cs > optical singlemode > TPlink mc 110cs > HDPlex NAA ( celeron G1840T-WS2016 ) NAD with Ramdisk > usb interface > nuprime dac10 > monitor Klein+hummel o410 + sub KHo810

 

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On 6/26/2020 at 1:10 AM, firedog said:

The article by Srajan for Darko probably got it right: it's the same Chinese manufacturer working as an OEM and selling two very similar DACs to 2 different brands. 

Does it suck for Denafrips? You bet. But if the design isn't theirs and they didn't lock down an exclusive on the design from the OEM, I don't think there is much they can do. This is not at all uncommon with Chinese plants. 

One other thing is that, (from my direct experience not directly related to audio), maybe the factory engineers offer a considerable contribution to the design and production engineering. So I would not be surprised if many of the noticed shared characteristics actually originated from the factories' capabilities.

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