Popular Post JohnSwenson Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 7 hours ago, richard_crl032 said: SG$ 119.80 5%OFF | made by Bg7tbl PLL-GPSDO GPS tame DISCiPLINED clock GPS Receiver 10M Sine Wave / 1PPS SQUARE WAVE GPSDO https://a.aliexpress.com/_mq9yvG9 Hi, Is this any good ? Means both sine and square wave outputs are available to try out ? What is the gps with antenna about ? Cheers. Richard This is a GPS Disciplined Oscillator. This is a way to get the output frequency exactly right, and stay their for many years without drifting. This EXTREMELY stable frequency is NOT repeat NOT what we need for digital audio. We are interested in extremely low phase noise. An OCXO can have very low phase noise (not all do). All the GPS stuff can do is add noise to the ground plane and power supply which just makes the phase noise of the OCXO worse. So for digital audio a GPSDO will have worse phase noise than the same OCXO by itself. Now to the details (you can ignore if you wish). Some applications (NOT audio) need clock with extremely low frequency change over time. Unfortunately no one device provides this. OCXOs have the lowest frequency change for short time frames (hours, days) but drift with time. (an OCXO is WAY better than a normal crystal, but some applications need even better than what an OCXO can do). Atomic clocks have MUCH better long term stability (months, years) than OCXOs, but have terrible short term stability. They have to be "averaged out" over time. GPS is a way to get the results of a multitude of very good atomic clocks to "steer" an OCXO to counteract the inherent drift over long periods of time. You may think the GPS is about finding positions, but it is REALLY about extremely accurate time. Each GPS satellite has a very good atomic clock on board. There is a radio transmitter that sends out packets which are "time stamped" with the time from the atomic clock. The receiver gets the signal from several satellites, each of which will have a slightly different time stamp, from these differences the receiver can calculate where it is. The difference in time stamps is due to different distances from the receiver to each satellite (speed of light etc). Given the time stamps and orbits of each satellite the computer in the receiver can calculate the location of the receiver. (its actually a pretty complex calculation because radio waves slow down very slightly while traveling through air, so the air density the wave traveled through has to be included). The inverse is also true: if you know your position extremely well you can calculate the time extremely well from the GPS signals. This is what a GPSDO does. When you first start it up it does a "survey" which can take from 8 to 24 hours, it takes the average of all the locations it has computed over that time and computes a very accurate position. From then on it uses that position to compute very accurate time. The GPSDO works by taking the output of the OCXO and using it to run a clock (ie a counter) and compares that with the time it gets from GPS, the result is the "error" between the GPS time and the OCXO time. These error numbers are then filtered (this is the secret sauce, every GPSDO does this a little differently) and this filtered error is used to slightly change the frequency of the OCXO. Thus the stability over short times is controlled by the OCXO and the stability over long times is controlled by an average of the atomic clocks in many GPS satellites. This is WAY cheaper than having your own atomic clock, and in most cases actually better, because GPS time is an average of the time of many atomic clocks. But then again none of this has anything to do with audio, I just like talking about it. I think this is a really amazing way of getting extremely accurate time all over the world for very low outlay of cash. (well the government is spending the big bucks on the satellites etc). GPS is the US system, Russia, China and Europe all have their own similar systems. The best GPSDOs will receive ALL of these and get even more accurate time. So to your actual question, if you have a box with the same OCXO and one with a GPSDO, the one that is just the OCXO will almost certainly sound better. John S. R1200CL, ZeusOdin, PYP and 4 others 1 4 2 Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Hi John, Thanks a million for the detailed and clear sharing !! Understand completely that the unit is not suitable for our audio application but indeed very nice to learn about GPSDO and what it does in getting cheap near atomic clock accurracy. Thanks again and as usual, I enjoy your teaching. Cheers. Richard PYP 1 Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
Popular Post Superdad Posted June 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2021 13 hours ago, richard_crl032 said: Thanks again and as usual, I enjoy your teaching. Yes, John is a total time-nut! He loves this stuff and has built some fancy GPS-disciplined clocks for his house—to tell time perfectly (me, I’m happy if my watch is within +/- 5 minutes ). In fact, John is a member of a mail-list-forum of scientists and hobbyists called Time-Nuts. http://leapsecond.com/time-nuts.htm PYP, MarkusBarkus, richard_crl032 and 1 other 2 2 UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
alsterfan Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 If someone is interested in a cheap alternative to the Chinese clock MartinT has started this thread with, here is what I use with great satisfaction: Constant Temperatur Crystal OCXO 10Mhz 0.01PPM 2 Channel Output. https://www.ebay.de/itm/184296816517 For me it has the advantage to only need 5v. So if there isn´t a LPSU 5v at hand, this clock can be powered with an USB output. At the moment I am using a power bank for that purpose after those flimsy cords (to be seen on 1 picture) have been replaced by a 2.5mm connector. Moreover there is no need to worry about BNC-cables. My external clock is attached to the ER with rigid BNC adaptors that I bought here: https://www.amazon.de/YILIANDUO-Connector-Handfunkelektronik-Kamerascanner-Funkgeräte/dp/B07K1XHQQ9/ref=pb_allspark_dp_session_sims_pao_desktop_4/257-6201746-3777357?pd_rd_w=4KKjI&pf_rd_p=d0ecb613-4040-45f8-b335-5cd8ff54c281&pf_rd_r=67FX574W6WVKDWQMF3ZC&pd_rd_r=4f9712a8-6ae9-4e74-a428-29037f62fe41&pd_rd_wg=We0wC&pd_rd_i=B07K1XHQQ9&psc=1 Regards, Uwe MartinT 1 Link to comment
R1200CL Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 @alsterfan Did you open up the clock and verify what brand and model is inside ? 5V is a nice option. I think even the clocks AfterDark is selling can be ordered from the manufacturers at 5 VDC. Maybe he isn’t interested in offering that, since he is also selling a (no name/rebranded) 12V power supply. Link to comment
alsterfan Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 32 minutes ago, R1200CL said: @alsterfan Did you open up the clock and verify what brand and model is inside ? No I didn´t the modification myself. However since I have ordered the same clock again which then will have to be modified too I might ask my friend to take a picture to show what is inside the tiny case. Link to comment
R1200CL Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 2 hours ago, alsterfan said: No I didn´t the modification myself. What modification ? Link to comment
alsterfan Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 36 minutes ago, R1200CL said: What modification ? As I mentioned before,"those flimsy cords (to be seen on 1 picture) have been replaced by a 2.5mm connector." Link to comment
R1200CL Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 44 minutes ago, alsterfan said: As I mentioned before,"those flimsy cords (to be seen on 1 picture) have been replaced by a 2.5mm connector." Wouldn’t 2.1 mm be a better choice, as this is more in line with the “standard” ? You know you easily can operate a screwdriver yourself and discover the inside ? 😀 Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 5 hours ago, alsterfan said: If someone is interested in a cheap alternative to the Chinese clock MartinT has started this thread with, here is what I use with great satisfaction: Constant Temperatur Crystal OCXO 10Mhz 0.01PPM 2 Channel Output. https://www.ebay.de/itm/184296816517 For me it has the advantage to only need 5v. So if there isn´t a LPSU 5v at hand, this clock can be powered with an USB output. At the moment I am using a power bank for that purpose after those flimsy cords (to be seen on 1 picture) have been replaced by a 2.5mm connector. Moreover there is no need to worry about BNC-cables. My external clock is attached to the ER with rigid BNC adaptors that I bought here: https://www.amazon.de/YILIANDUO-Connector-Handfunkelektronik-Kamerascanner-Funkgeräte/dp/B07K1XHQQ9/ref=pb_allspark_dp_session_sims_pao_desktop_4/257-6201746-3777357?pd_rd_w=4KKjI&pf_rd_p=d0ecb613-4040-45f8-b335-5cd8ff54c281&pf_rd_r=67FX574W6WVKDWQMF3ZC&pd_rd_r=4f9712a8-6ae9-4e74-a428-29037f62fe41&pd_rd_wg=We0wC&pd_rd_i=B07K1XHQQ9&psc=1 Regards, Uwe Hi Uwe, Any ideal if sine or square wave ? Just spent last 6 hrs reading from initial post by Martin and I may have missed it .... For me, I will not* likely be spending 3x "mid range double crown model" or more on clock from AD as compared to EtherRegen ... some improvement suffice for me as critical listening is via ssd in my antipodes cx server to ex player. TIA and cheers. Richard *PS: unless superdad advises to my PM that I need another etherRegen between the Antipodes but will be a nightmare with all these boxes of reclocker, external clock, psu etc. Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Hi AD c/o Adrian, What am I missing here ? Cheaper to order from US dealer than directly from AD ? Shipping from AD HK cos much more than shipping within USA ? Or due to added "free" BNC cable especially with mentioned 10% audiophilestyle discount ? Cheers. Richard Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
AfterDark. Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Hi! Richard, Thanks for your questions. We will have Singapore dealer soon, so it would be nice to approach our local dealer for best customer services. For US dealer, they are having speical discount to celebrate the Stereotime's review. So, the promotion is target to local customer only. Hi! Alex, Sorry we should not make promotions here. Please feel free to delete the above post. Best Regards, Adrian AfterDark. richard_crl032 1 Amp: Goldmund 27+ EVO Preamp, Goldmund 29M Power Amp, Goldmund AC-Curator DAC: CH Precision C1.1 Digital Convertor, Studer D19 DAC, Wadia 2000 DAC Digital: Mutec MC3-USB, AfterDark. Giesemann OCXO 10M Master Clock Giesemann EVA Playback: Goldmund PH3 Phono Amp, Linn LP12, Studer A807 VU MKII Open Reel Network Switch: AFTERDARK. PROJECT CLAYX BUFFALO BS-GS2016 CASCADE X GIESEMANN OCXO BLACK MODERNIZE EDITION x Farad Super3 LPS Dealer: UpTone Audio, Gustard, Farad Power Supply, Cybershaft, Thixar, DELA Link to comment
PYP Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Adrian, Can the 75 Ohm Queen single-output square wave version be powered by a JS-2 using 12 volt output? And can you verify the dimensions? Thank you. Grimm Audio MU1 > Mola Mola Tambaqui > Mola Mola Kaluga > B&W 803 D3 Cables: Kubala-Sosna Power management: Shunyata Room: Vicoustics “Nature is pleased with simplicity.” Isaac Newton "As neither the enjoyment nor the capacity of producing musical notes are faculties of the least use to man...they must be ranked among the most mysterious with which he is endowed." Charles Darwin - The Descent of Man Link to comment
AfterDark. Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Hi! PYP, The Giesemann clock can be powered by a JS-2 using 12V DC. It will work well and sounds great with JS-2. The dimensions is 16cm x 12cm x 9cm. Thanks and have a nice day. Best Regards, Adrian AfterDark. PYP 1 Amp: Goldmund 27+ EVO Preamp, Goldmund 29M Power Amp, Goldmund AC-Curator DAC: CH Precision C1.1 Digital Convertor, Studer D19 DAC, Wadia 2000 DAC Digital: Mutec MC3-USB, AfterDark. Giesemann OCXO 10M Master Clock Giesemann EVA Playback: Goldmund PH3 Phono Amp, Linn LP12, Studer A807 VU MKII Open Reel Network Switch: AFTERDARK. PROJECT CLAYX BUFFALO BS-GS2016 CASCADE X GIESEMANN OCXO BLACK MODERNIZE EDITION x Farad Super3 LPS Dealer: UpTone Audio, Gustard, Farad Power Supply, Cybershaft, Thixar, DELA Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 And then there is rubidium clock version with Symmetricom X72 from hamradioshop and presumably which lower audio critical phase noise ? 150+ db at 10K as other rubidium clock/oscillator ? Get the filter and we are all set ? Cheers. Richard Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
alsterfan Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 21 hours ago, richard_crl032 said: Hi Uwe, Any ideal if sine or square wave ? Sorry, I have no idea. Maybe there will be an indirect answer to your question, if the filter that John Swenson mentioned and that I am waiting for, will push SQ even more. richard_crl032 1 Link to comment
Billy_SP Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Hello from Brazil. I am new to the website and have been using the EtherRegen with good results for about a year now. I used the UltraCap LPS 1.2 which brought a very slight improvement, but was not comfortable with the high running temperature of it. Changed to an iFi iPower X (new version) which gave a better sound than the original power supply, does not get hot and has a low cost. I understand its not linear, but it is a good quality switching power supply. I would like to keep improving the EtherRegen, and read throughout the 59 pages but ended somewhat confused. Apologizing in advance for the newbie question, can somebody suggest me what to buy to upgrade the sound of the EtherRegen? I understand that a 10MHz clock, a cable, some filter/connectors, maybe a LPSU, but which of each? Better bang for the buck appreciated, since I will most likely pay 100% tax over the item and freight costs. I would be very grateful for your suggestions. ________________________________________________________________________________ Finisar Mono mode Fiber > (Finisar SFPs + iFi Elite) > SOtM SNh 10g (+AD Clock + LPSU) > Melco S10 > Melco N10 > Verity Audio Monsalvat Pre 2 > MBL N15 Monoblocks > MBL 116 speakers Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Hi Billy, Best bang for the bucks varies and differs from you and me ... Safe bet will be Afterdark Queens or recommended Double Crown version but get from USA since about 20% discount there is great. Go cheap will be China's and the Aliexpress way with sine wave 10M and recommended filter on the EtherRegen's clock input while noting Martin had already shared that this is of lesser SQ... sine wave alleviates concern on clock cable or having those costing more than EtherRegen or AD clock and disregards if 50ohm or 75ohm impedence mismatch. Consider my remark with care as I had also only finished my 6 hrs read up of these 59 pages of great sharing. Cheers. Richard AfterDark. 1 Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 20 hours ago, alsterfan said: Sorry, I have no idea. Maybe there will be an indirect answer to your question, if the filter that John Swenson mentioned and that I am waiting for, will push SQ even more. Hi Alster, My understanding is that filter is only for sine wave clock and of no impact if square wave ... hence my query. Cheers. Richard PYP 1 Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
mfaoro Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 2 hours ago, richard_crl032 said: Safe bet will be Afterdark Queens or recommended Double Crown version but get from USA since about 20% discount there is great. Is the dealer you refer to here called Ctronic Audio Labs? If so, are the prices on the website 20% off or do you need to contact them about this? If not, who is the US dealer? FRONT END: Analog: Radikal Linn LP12 > Linn Urika 2 phono stage. Sound: Linn Klimax Organik DSM > Linn Duo amp >Maggie 3.7i Wires + Power: Transparent: Reference Speaker, XL Power Conditioner + XL Power Cords. Furutech NFC Rhodium outlet on 10 gauge dedicated circuit with isolated ground Isolation: HRS SXR stand, M3X2 Bases. Connected to back end by: Transparent Ethernet BACK END: Digital: Internet > OpticalModule > EtherREGEN < AD Queen Squarewave Clock < Roon Nucleus + (internal 7TB SSD music library) Isolation: Salamander Archetype rack, HRS M3X2 base the under Nucleus, ER,Stillpoints under all others Power: Paul Hynes SR7T > Clock, Nucleus. SR7T > ER & OpticalModule, SR4 > Switch. Furutech NFC Rhodium outlet on 10 gauge dedicated circuit with isolated ground Link to comment
alsterfan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 5 hours ago, richard_crl032 said: Hi Alster, My understanding is that filter is only for sine wave clock and of no impact if square wave ... hence my query. Cheers. Richard Yes I know, Richard, but although the technical data provided by the seller don´t have any information as to sine or square wave clock I decided to order the filter, which hopefully will be delivered within the next few days. I will share my experience with it thereafter. Best, Uwe richard_crl032 1 Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 hours ago, mfaoro said: Is the dealer you refer to here called Ctronic Audio Labs? If so, are the prices on the website 20% off or do you need to contact them about this? If not, who is the US dealer? Hi mfaoro, Affirmative @ usd565 with already included discount and cheers. Richard Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
mfaoro Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 24 minutes ago, richard_crl032 said: Hi mfaoro, Affirmative @ usd565 with already included discount and cheers. Richard Are you the proprietor on Ctronic? Are there similar discounts on the other models? If I wanted a higher end model? FRONT END: Analog: Radikal Linn LP12 > Linn Urika 2 phono stage. Sound: Linn Klimax Organik DSM > Linn Duo amp >Maggie 3.7i Wires + Power: Transparent: Reference Speaker, XL Power Conditioner + XL Power Cords. Furutech NFC Rhodium outlet on 10 gauge dedicated circuit with isolated ground Isolation: HRS SXR stand, M3X2 Bases. Connected to back end by: Transparent Ethernet BACK END: Digital: Internet > OpticalModule > EtherREGEN < AD Queen Squarewave Clock < Roon Nucleus + (internal 7TB SSD music library) Isolation: Salamander Archetype rack, HRS M3X2 base the under Nucleus, ER,Stillpoints under all others Power: Paul Hynes SR7T > Clock, Nucleus. SR7T > ER & OpticalModule, SR4 > Switch. Furutech NFC Rhodium outlet on 10 gauge dedicated circuit with isolated ground Link to comment
richard_crl032 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, mfaoro said: Are you the proprietor on Ctronic? Are there similar discounts on the other models? If I wanted a higher end model? Oh no ! Pls contact ctronics. Cheers. Revel Salon 2 speakers, Sander Magtech amp, Audible Illusion L3B (Blackgate) preamp, Denafrips Terminator Plus dac, Denafrips Hermes ddc, Antipodes CX/EX/P1/P2 server/player (Oladra upgraded), Denafrips Avatar cdp, Bel Canto fm1 tuner, Airties Wireless Mesh, ifi Blue Zen BT receiver, 2X Uptone EtherRegen + AfterDark Emperor Double Crown 10M clock, Zerozone 5/7.5/12v LPS, Uptone LPS 1.2, 2x diy 2kVA Isotransformers, dedicated 20/30A lines for separate digital/analog, Nordost Quattro Fil interconnects, Acoustic Revive TripleC Ethernet/i2S cables, Shunyata Sigma usb cable with ifi Idefender 3.0, Aurealis/Apogee/Canare BNC clock cables, Cardas Clear speaker cable and jumpers, Zonotone Shupreme/5050 powercords, Garrard 301 on slate plinth/sme 3012R/Ortofon Classic Royal GM mk2/diy 301 motor PSU/graham IC90/kimber tak ag etc./Headamp Gilmore Lite Mk2+Golden Reference PSU/Grado FreeSystem fg-1 headphones Link to comment
R1200CL Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 On 6/7/2021 at 7:11 PM, richard_crl032 said: 150+ db at 10K Bad numbers. If it was 150 dBc at 10Hz, it would be very (extremely) good. On 6/7/2021 at 7:11 PM, richard_crl032 said: Get the filter and we are all set ? It may help. Most BG7TBL is 50 ohm natively. (As is AfterDark clocks). Standardize on 50 ohm is good. Not everyone agree. EtherRegen is also available in 50 ohm. You may consider 5V clocks as maybe easier to power them. Same clock can sometimes be available as both 5 and 12 V. I recommend the AfterDark version you can afford instead of BG7TBL 😀 Link to comment
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