Popular Post sb6 Posted May 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2020 Great topic I've often thought it was not succinctly (if that's even possible) fleshed out. I employ your option 3. I found the SOTM SMS200 ultra neo was noticeably more fleshed - out with better dynamics and more emphasis and detail in the bass compared to the ultra rendu both using the same SOTM Signature PSU and exact same setup. Now I'm wondering what would sound better - my current setup (JCAT ethernet card -> direct connect ethernet to SOTM ultra Neo -> USB DAC input or the JCAT USB card -> SOTM TX USB - > USB to DAC avoiding ethernet in the signal path and staying all USB. Also, IMO and IME while sample rates, filters, dither, etc. change the sound somewhat, sometimes components are simply better than other irrespective of other component particulars. Sometimes the $500 LPSU is simply better than the wall wart, the $10K DAC bests the $1K DAC irrespective of the other components. If this weren't true, many companies would be out of business. motberg and Audiophile Neuroscience 2 4x20A circuits | Shunyata Triton + Typhon | Source 1: HDPlex HD100 PSU -> OCX clock + EtherRegen -> Paul Hynes SR4T + HDPlex HD500 PSUs -> Music PC w/JCAT XE nic, HQPlayer, Roon, Tidal / Qobuz | TotalDAC D1 Twelve DAC + Mk II Streamer | Source 2: Acoustic Signature Ascona with Kuzma 4 Point tonearm | Koetsu Rosewood Signature cart | Pass XP-15 phono pre | Audionet Pre G2 preamp | Audionet Max mono blocks | Vivid Audio Giya Spirits | 4 JL Audio Fathom subs | Echole ICs /SCs / Siltech King jumpers, Shunyata/Audioquest PCs / Eth. Cs | Critical Mass CS2s -> components, Isoacoustics -> speakers + subs | Adona Eris II rack w/ Herbie's titanium footers | Fully treated and dedicated 2 channel room Link to comment
Popular Post sb6 Posted May 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2020 4 hours ago, smodtactical said: What do you guys think of the philosophy that any path that has usb is automatically inferior? And that the best path is PCIE -> dac via spdif? This is an opinion held by many smart users I have encountered but I do wonder if this is a superior solution to a good ethernet solution or this optical pathway that Hans B is talking about. I think it's an oversimplification. There are many factors that go into each design that can affect sound quality. Also, it depends on your system components quality since SPDIF relies on the DAC to clock the signal while USB relies on the source. smodtactical, Audiophile Neuroscience and The Computer Audiophile 2 1 4x20A circuits | Shunyata Triton + Typhon | Source 1: HDPlex HD100 PSU -> OCX clock + EtherRegen -> Paul Hynes SR4T + HDPlex HD500 PSUs -> Music PC w/JCAT XE nic, HQPlayer, Roon, Tidal / Qobuz | TotalDAC D1 Twelve DAC + Mk II Streamer | Source 2: Acoustic Signature Ascona with Kuzma 4 Point tonearm | Koetsu Rosewood Signature cart | Pass XP-15 phono pre | Audionet Pre G2 preamp | Audionet Max mono blocks | Vivid Audio Giya Spirits | 4 JL Audio Fathom subs | Echole ICs /SCs / Siltech King jumpers, Shunyata/Audioquest PCs / Eth. Cs | Critical Mass CS2s -> components, Isoacoustics -> speakers + subs | Adona Eris II rack w/ Herbie's titanium footers | Fully treated and dedicated 2 channel room Link to comment
sb6 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, beerandmusic said: I think ethernet over optical is best possible solution, and whether you take that optical out to usb>dac or optical out> streamer/dac just depends on design. I think noise isolation from usb out a noisy pc has come a long ways over the last 5 or 6 years, but you aren't going to beat noise isolation using one of the 2 fiber over ethernet solutions. Curious if anyone considered any inherent noise/jitter associated with the 2x optical conversion and whether this might reduce or adversely affect sonics versus the benefit of optical isolation? 4x20A circuits | Shunyata Triton + Typhon | Source 1: HDPlex HD100 PSU -> OCX clock + EtherRegen -> Paul Hynes SR4T + HDPlex HD500 PSUs -> Music PC w/JCAT XE nic, HQPlayer, Roon, Tidal / Qobuz | TotalDAC D1 Twelve DAC + Mk II Streamer | Source 2: Acoustic Signature Ascona with Kuzma 4 Point tonearm | Koetsu Rosewood Signature cart | Pass XP-15 phono pre | Audionet Pre G2 preamp | Audionet Max mono blocks | Vivid Audio Giya Spirits | 4 JL Audio Fathom subs | Echole ICs /SCs / Siltech King jumpers, Shunyata/Audioquest PCs / Eth. Cs | Critical Mass CS2s -> components, Isoacoustics -> speakers + subs | Adona Eris II rack w/ Herbie's titanium footers | Fully treated and dedicated 2 channel room Link to comment
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