plissken Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, jabbr said: It’s been demonstrated that copper Ethernet can transmit common mode noise aka leakage current to receivers and in hospitals, particularly in ICIs where there might be direct cardiac electrodes, so-called Ethernet isolation filters are used (they weren’t developed for the audiophile market 😂) I work in health care, IT Networking. We put those in to protect really expensive equipment from voltages they weren't intended to receive. Guess what switch Konica puts in with their X-Ray machines... Link to comment
plissken Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Superdad said: Once again, show me one "generic" thing about it: It is about as far from "generic" as you can get. Not counting case or power supply, this board--in 500 unit qty.--costs us over $200 each. So what, you made an expensive mousetrap... Link to comment
Seraph Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, plissken said: I work in health care, IT Networking. We put those in to protect really expensive equipment from voltages they weren't intended to receive. Guess what switch Konica puts in with their X-Ray machines... Its not the UpTone EtherRegen? ~shocked~ Link to comment
sandyk Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 On 4/3/2020 at 7:22 AM, The Computer Audiophile said: I must say, the amount of posts being reported as being against the objective-fi rules is astounding. However, the objectivists aren't reporting their own fellow objectivists. Chris Would you please consider closing this topic as there has been no new applicable technical content being added in the last page or so, just more of the same . How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
Seraph Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, sandyk said: Chris Would you please consider closing this topic as there has been no new technical content being added in the last page or so, just more of the same . Oh, you got your feelings hurt because you were off topic and had your post removed? Several pages of this thread is your hubbub. That and your "guys". Audiophile Neuroscience 1 Link to comment
jabbr Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, alfe said: You mean phase noise, close in phase noise, deterministic jitter, periodic jitter...😄 I'm thinking that as DSD upsampling goes up, the effect of a reasonable amount of phase error in even the DAC clock goes down. Random jitter at DSD512/25Mhz may not/probably doesn't make an audible difference. Perhaps @pkane2001 can model that There's a limit to audibility and upsampling pushes the effects further away from the audible band. Custom room treatments for headphone users. Link to comment
André Gosselin Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, sandyk said: Chris Would you please consider closing this topic as there has been no new applicable technical content being added in the last page or so, just more of the same . Chris, Please do something about it. This thread is really going nowhere. Audiophile Neuroscience 1 Link to comment
Seraph Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, André Gosselin said: Chris, Please do something about it. This thread is really going nowhere. Why don't you make an effort and contribute? Link to comment
Seraph Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Hey Chris, Is this a case of: "I've gotten private messages from longtime members and seen the tone in this thread. I am making the decision that this thread is bad for my sponsors and the forum at large."? Audiophile Neuroscience 1 Link to comment
Popular Post André Gosselin Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Seraph said: Why don't you make an effort and contribute? Please, tell me what exactly have you contributed ? You keep repeating the same story over and over, on a clear agenda. We have heard you.Please move on. Audiophile Neuroscience, charlesphoto and sandyk 1 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Seraph Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 Just now, André Gosselin said: Please, tell me what exactly have you contributed ? You keep repeating the same story over and over, on a clear agenda. We have heard you.Please move on. No! I won't move on before UpTone Audio answers my questions! This is their main advertising platform and they should step the hell up and defend their product! Teresa, Superdad and sandyk 1 1 1 Link to comment
André Gosselin Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Just now, Seraph said: No! I won't move on before UpTone Audio answers my questions! This is their main advertising platform and they should step the hell up and defend their product! Uptone has already repeated nth time that measurements will come in due time. Until then, please take a pause. Teresa 1 Link to comment
Seraph Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, André Gosselin said: Uptone has already repeated nth time that measurements will come in due time. Until then, please take a pause. Do you hear what you are saying? So UpTone developed an audiophile network switch, and put it up for sale, before researching if one is actually called for? Do you realise how ass-backwards that sounds? Teresa and sandyk 1 1 Link to comment
André Gosselin Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Seraph said: Do you hear what you are saying? So UpTone developed an audiophile network switch, and put it up for sale, before researching if one is actually called for? Do you realise how ass-backwards that sounds? Quousque abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra ? -- Cicero Link to comment
Seraph Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Just now, André Gosselin said: Quousque abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra ? Until I get an answer! sandyk and Teresa 1 1 Link to comment
Seraph Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, André Gosselin said: Quousque abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra ? -- Cicero "No pilluhan se on aina mielessä, mutta hypätään nyt ensin!" (toimittajan kysyessä Matilta, mikä on miehellä mielessä) Link to comment
Popular Post André Gosselin Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Seraph said: "No pilluhan se on aina mielessä, mutta hypätään nyt ensin!" (toimittajan kysyessä Matilta, mikä on miehellä mielessä) OK, we know more now where you are coming from. I have neer been afraid of reveailing my true name and identity, it is all there since beginning in all my posts on AS. My address and phone number are available if you want. I challenge you to do the same. sandyk and Teresa 2 Link to comment
Popular Post jabbr Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, Seraph said: Do you hear what you are saying? So UpTone developed an audiophile network switch, and put it up for sale, before researching if one is actually called for? Do you realise how ass-backwards that sounds? There is a market perception that a product is needed, and UpTone has delivered a product which matches the perception. I don’t think the people who love it care about the “science” or the measurements Teresa, DuckToller, sandyk and 1 other 4 Custom room treatments for headphone users. Link to comment
Seraph Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, André Gosselin said: OK, we know more now where you are coming from. I have neer been afraid of reveailing my true name and identity, it is all there since beginning in all my posts on AS. My address and phone number are available if you want. I challenge you to do the same. Listen sandyk, give it a rest will you? You already had your post removed for being off topic. Just move on. We all know its you. Link to comment
Popular Post Jud Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 It seems reasonably clear @Seraph wished to stir something up, and I'm quite surprised how eagerly so many otherwise intelligent people have accommodated him in what is supposed to be an objective thread. Everyone who bought the ER knew the "backwards" situation (that a product was being sold prior to measurements being done of its efficacy). That is still the case, and it's fair comment to point that out, though not however many times @Seraph has done so in an attempt to have fun with those who rise to the bait. I think that pretty well wraps it up unless/until we have more measurement data. I'd suggest anyone offended by our friend's repetition let it echo into emptiness, or let anyone who wants to repetitively state agreement do so freely. luisma, charlesphoto, kumakuma and 3 others 1 1 4 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Popular Post Seraph Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jud said: It seems reasonably clear @Seraph wished to stir something up, and I'm quite surprised how eagerly so many otherwise intelligent people have accommodated him in what is supposed to be an objective thread. Everyone who bought the ER knew the "backwards" situation (that a product was being sold prior to measurements being done of its efficacy). That is still the case, and it's fair comment to point that out, though not however many times @Seraph has done so in an attempt to have fun with those who rise to the bait. I think that pretty well wraps it up unless/until we have more measurement data. I'd suggest anyone offended by our friend's repetition let it echo into emptiness, or let anyone who wants to repetitively state agreement do so freely. Yes, I think this pretty much wraps it up. Thank you for your honest answer @Jud Teresa and jabbr 1 1 Link to comment
sandyk Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 39 minutes ago, Seraph said: Listen sandyk, give it a rest will you? You already had your post removed for being off topic. Just move on. We all know its you. Please go back to A.S.R. where you will be more appreciated. I edited my own post, it was NOT removed. Neither have I sent any recent PMs to Admin about the posts in this thread or other threads, although I feel sure that others have complained about your posts in this Objective area. How a Digital Audio file sounds, or a Digital Video file looks, is governed to a large extent by the Power Supply area. All that Identical Checksums gives is the possibility of REGENERATING the file to close to that of the original file. PROFILE UPDATED 13-11-2020 Link to comment
Seraph Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, sandyk said: Please go back to A.S.R. where you will be more appreciated. I edited my own post, it was NOT removed. Neither have I sent any recent PMs to Admin about the posts in this thread or other threads, although I feel sure that others have complained about your posts in this Objective area. I'm done with this topic. @Jud gave me a straight answer and I have no further reason to talk about this. Teresa 1 Link to comment
Popular Post jabbr Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, Jud said: It seems reasonably clear @Seraph wished to stir something up, and I'm quite surprised how eagerly so many otherwise intelligent people have accommodated him in what is supposed to be an objective thread. We should strive to be accommodating @Seraph is in the intended, objectivist ghetto, so his statements shouldn’t be taken as offensive by subjectivists who are here because .....? That said, this ghetto is also intended for rational scientific and logical discourse so we should all strive for light rather than heat. I think “both” viewports are correct. To paraphrase, when both “sides” are equally offended then we have a good deal. @Superdad knows that all mentions are advertising so he should be happy with ongoing discussion Seraph, Teresa, Confused and 1 other 4 Custom room treatments for headphone users. Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Seraph said: Your posts are cancerous. Link it or forget about it. This is your one warning. Audiophile Style isn't your playground to insult people. Your "science" site may tolerate your behavior, but we don't around here. Audiophile Neuroscience, Teresa, kumakuma and 2 others 2 3 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
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