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An old piece about Stereo Image by John Atkinson


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I'm in the Julian Hirsch camp here ... 😉.

 

With the SQ I work towards you get both ... imaging and 'musicality' - the stereo image doesn't create super duper precision, as in you could run  a laser scanning rig over the musician, and then 3D print a Madame Tussauds figurine that would take your breath away, 😁 ... but it does sound like "the real thing".

 

Getting laser accuracy in "seeing" things I find is bit of a gimmick - the ease with which the whole sound gells, yet still makes it easy to see where everything "was set up" for the recording is more important to me - where it is no problem 'looking' at some sound source, and following it, while the rest of sound making slips "into the background".

Frank

 

http://artofaudioconjuring.blogspot.com/

 

 

Over and out.

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1 hour ago, gmgraves said:

Sorry, you are wrong, Frank. REAL, two mike stereo, whether co-incident, Blumlein, XY, AB, ORTF, or MS CAN give pinpoint imaging AND a wide soundstage if done

correctly. What WILL NOT give pinpoint imaging are spaced omni (either two or three) mikes! I wouldn’t brag about being in old “everything-sounds-the-same”, “yes-we-have-no-opinion” Julian Hirsch’s camp in anything, if I were you!😈

 

In the article he mentions how Hirsch reacted to different qualities in the sound field - that's the sense in which I was invoking his name, 🙂.

 

Whether there is a single soundstage, or there are multiple acoustic spaces all layered on top of each other, will depend, yes, on how the recording was done. Variety is the spice of life, and I have no problem with every recording presenting very different worlds to me - if the spaces are quite bizarre that doesn't offend me, if I can see it making sense as part of a creative process,

Frank

 

http://artofaudioconjuring.blogspot.com/

 

 

Over and out.

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5 hours ago, John_Atkinson said:

 

Thanks for posting the link.

 

John Atkinson

Technical Editor, Stereophile

John,

 

I’m sure that many of us would appreciate a brief update to that article with consideration for how changes in technology or the addition of digital processing has made any improvements. 

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On 2/17/2020 at 12:08 AM, gmgraves said:

EMI, in Britain, used to record a lot in The Waterford Town Hall. Every time I played an HMV or the (always poorer sounding) US made “Angel Records” version of the same recording, I always noticed something wrong with the soundstage. The ambience seemed to lean to the left. I couldn’t figure out why. Then, many years after first noticing the phenomenon, I saw a picture (probably in HFN&RR) of the hall, with an orchestra arrayed on the floor of the hall. It was “L” shaped! With a large space leading off to the left at a right angle to the main hall! Suddenly the reason for the lopsided ambience was clear. The interesting thing was that the space added an easily recognized sonic character to any performance recorded there!

A few points to discuss here. It is Watford not Waterford Town Hall. Waterford is in Ireland. If you only heard odd soundstaging with EMI records caused by the Hall's acoustics then you should have heard the same with many Decca and UK produced RCA recordings as they too were made in Watford Town Hall.

 

Finally, Watford Town Hall ( now renamed Watford Colosseum) is shoebox shaped like the Concergebouw and Boston Symphony Hall which is the main reason why its acoustics are renowned. See linked picture.

 

https://www.architecture.com/image-library/RIBApix/image-information/poster/watford-town-hall-hertfordshire-the-assembly-hall/posterid/RIBA73866.html

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21 minutes ago, PAR said:

A few points to discuss here. It is Watford not Waterford Town Hall. Waterford is in Ireland. If you only heard odd soundstaging with EMI records caused by the Hall's acoustics then you should have heard the same with many Decca and UK produced RCA recordings as they too were made in Watford Town Hall.

 

Finally, Watford Town Hall ( now renamed Watford Colosseum) is shoebox shaped like the Concergebouw and Boston Symphony Hall which is the main reason why its acoustics are renowned. See linked picture.

 

https://www.architecture.com/image-library/RIBApix/image-information/poster/watford-town-hall-hertfordshire-the-assembly-hall/posterid/RIBA73866.html


Thank you. 

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5 hours ago, PAR said:

Finally, Watford Town Hall ( now renamed Watford Colosseum) is shoebox shaped like the Concergebouw and Boston Symphony Hall which is the main reason why its acoustics are renowned. See linked picture.

 

https://www.architecture.com/image-library/RIBApix/image-information/poster/watford-town-hall-hertfordshire-the-assembly-hall/posterid/RIBA73866.html

 

The interior design is funny. It looks like a domestic scale lounge with loads of tiny chairs.

"Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes

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5 minutes ago, semente said:

It looks like a domestic scale lounge with loads of tiny chairs.

😁😁😁

 

Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, if you assume as your visual  clue for scale that the windows and the ceiling lights are normal domestic sized then the seats must be for miniature folk.

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9 hours ago, PAR said:

A few points to discuss here. It is Watford not Waterford Town Hall. Waterford is in Ireland. If you only heard odd soundstaging with EMI records caused by the Hall's acoustics then you should have heard the same with many Decca and UK produced RCA recordings as they too were made in Watford Town Hall.

 

Finally, Watford Town Hall ( now renamed Watford Colosseum) is shoebox shaped like the Concergebouw and Boston Symphony Hall which is the main reason why its acoustics are renowned. See linked picture.

 

https://www.architecture.com/image-library/RIBApix/image-information/poster/watford-town-hall-hertfordshire-the-assembly-hall/posterid/RIBA73866.html

Thanks for the corrections. It has been many years since I saw the name. You are correct, it is Watford town hall. I misremembered. And having never been there, I didn’t realize that it was in Erie and not Ol’ Blighty. Again, thanks for straightening that out for an ignorant American. I really do appreciate it!

George

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