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3 hours ago, bodiebill said:

 

IBackblaze does not work with Windows Server 😐

 

Just Mac and consumer versions of Windows.

 

Since I run these operating systems along with a couple of Linuxes, this works for me. Running the server version of Windows or modifying it to eliminate services can sometimes produce errors with the players I use, so as long as I'm running Windows (or MacOS), I leave it as the player developer expects to find it.


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I just subscribed to Jottacloud for a one-month account and am currently uploading my library. With some luck this will complete within that month. Initial impressions are good in terms of speed (especially download is very fast, upload is approx. 20MB/s in my case) and intuitive UI.

 

€7,50 per month unlimited; beyond 5TB upload speed goes down...


 

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23 hours ago, Iving said:

ewww ... sounds like Apple ["we know what you want before you know what you want"]

 

Thanks for the feedback, it's very useful - although I don't recall saying "I know what you want" - album art could easily be optional, in fact the tagging options in general could be optional.

 

What are the problems with online backup for you at the moment?

 

Personally I just use S3 still (used to use rsync.net who had excellent customer service, but the price increase was just too much).


 

bliss - fully automated music organizer. Read the music library management blog.

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31 minutes ago, Dan Gravell said:

 

Thanks for the feedback, it's very useful - although I don't recall saying "I know what you want" - album art could easily be optional, in fact the tagging options in general could be optional.

 

What are the problems with online backup for you at the moment?

 

Personally I just use S3 still (used to use rsync.net who had excellent customer service, but the price increase was just too much).

 

The "We know what you want before you know what you want" thing is just a euphemism for a certain kind of philosophy of computing epitomised in my mind (and uncomfortable experience) by Apple. All computing systems (mostly software of course) present frustrating obstacles to me (I know I am my own victim) - and I have found Apple the worst environment of all. You can see from my post that I am left with a bit of "If you want something done properly you have to do it yourself" belief-script. I am not responding to your Bliss service directly - only your post, "What if ... etc".

 

I have never warmed to Cloud storage. I imagine it can be a fitting solution in corporate environments and for some personal users - I guess. I don't like the idea of handing over my data voluntarily to third parties - we condone things by participating in them. But I could get over this in relation to my music files. If I use third party software to backup and update my music library, could I be 100% sure that no snooping of my other files (or browsing activity etc) ever happened. That was a rhetoric question no matter the facts. Pragmatically I can imagine all sorts of upload problems and hiccoughs compared with USB transfer to another HDD. Obviously I don't want to pay unless of value to me. And what if I ever stopped using a paid-for service for any reason - financial hardship, forgetting etc. I would have to anticipate an alternative solution in advance - the one I now prefer i.e. simple off-site HDD. Probably ultimately for me I prefer to work in my own shed than somebody else's - that's all.

 

I have no experience of S3.

 

I wasn't and am not now remarking on Bliss. Just joining the conversation started by the OP.


Disclaimer! I have not in the past, I do not now, and I am not likely ever to stream music from the internet.

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On 2/16/2020 at 5:02 PM, bodiebill said:

 

Ah confusing. Google say unlimited only starts when you pay for at least 5 users. But they have not enforced the 1TB for the last few years. See https://servergems.com/unlimited-google-drive-storage/ When they start enforcing the 1TB the cost would be times 5. 


Okay but I’m not using that service so that’s not applicable to me. I’m using G Suite Business. Unlimited data storage for one user so no need for me to worry. The main reason I have to collect my own lossless copies is the music I listen to mainly won’t EVER be on Qbuoz or Tidal. Some streaming services do have some Dave Matthews Band stuff but I can’t find a streaming service besides nugs.net that offfers all the Widespread Panic shows in

lossless but then I can’t listen to more mainstream music on that service. 
 

Chris CarPlay article is what got me interested in getting my NAS in the cloud to play in my Genesis G 70 Sport plus at work. 

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On 2/17/2020 at 12:29 PM, bodiebill said:

I just subscribed to Jottacloud for a one-month account and am currently uploading my library. With some luck this will complete within that month. Initial impressions are good in terms of speed (especially download is very fast, upload is approx. 20MB/s in my case) and intuitive UI.

 

€7,50 per month unlimited; beyond 5TB upload speed goes down...


 

To each their own but I’ll never understand people that ask about suggestions about where to store music and when presented with suggestions does one that nobody has heard of or suggested. Jottacloud? Really? 

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Yesterday I started uploading my music library from a Windows machine using Jottacloud's automated uploader. After about one day I reached 170GB. So uploading a 5TB library would take approx. 24 days.

 

However, this afternoon I started to do the same, this time using the rclone tool to sync into my Jottacloud. 45 minutes later I was already at 280GB, so 110 added in that time. So now it seems the library can be uploaded in less than 2 days.

 

The improvement in speed is almost incredible. Fingers crossed...

And I no longer have to use the somewhat buggy Jottacloud desktop app.

 

For more info see: https://rclone.org/ 

It is a free tool based on rsync that works with many cloud storage providers.

 

 

 


 

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45 minutes ago, TJtennispro said:

To each their own but I’ll never understand people that ask about suggestions about where to store music and when presented with suggestions does one that nobody has heard of or suggested. Jottacloud? Really? 

 

I tried five providers, including some suggested here. Jottacloud for me felt best in terms of speed, user experience, cost and data center location. It is a well known service in Europe that started in 2008.

 

I would have preferred G Suite Business as recommended by TJtennispro, however was advised elsewhere that this could be risky:

 

Google write: "With G Suite Business, each user in your organization can store unlimited Gmail messages, Google Photos, and files in Drive. Or if there are 4 or fewer users in your organization, each user gets 1 TB of storage."

 

The unlimited in the first part refers to Google files that are unlimited in all Google storage products, so this does not apply to music files.

The second sentence means that if you pay for one user (which is less than 4 users), the official max is 1TB. They just do not enforce that yet. I did not want to take the risk of later enforcement of that rule given the hassle to get all the data up there.

 

For now happy with Jottacloud with rclone (see previous post). Hereby suggested by me a service. 😉 

 

And actually the advice here really helped to make that choice, so thanks all.

 


 

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