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Take one: lost Dave Brubeck tapes reveal jazz hit originally sounded like ‘a bad student band’

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Hmmm.. whitebread musicians.. ( @Ralf11 courtesy 9_9). Trane used to enter the studio and record material for 3 albums in 2 days, same with Miles.


The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils. The motions of his spirit are dull as night, and his affections dark as Erebus. Let no such man be trusted. Mark the music.

                                                                          ―  William Shakespeare.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

heh

I really dig this expression!

('whitebread jazz' not 'heh')


The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils. The motions of his spirit are dull as night, and his affections dark as Erebus. Let no such man be trusted. Mark the music.

                                                                          ―  William Shakespeare.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, mansr said:

You guys are almost as elitist as George.

There's too much bad and average music not to be one. Same applies to audio gear.

Beside that, now I live in Koninkrijk der Nederlanden :D


The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils. The motions of his spirit are dull as night, and his affections dark as Erebus. Let no such man be trusted. Mark the music.

                                                                          ―  William Shakespeare.

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, sphinxsix said:

There's too much bad and average music not to be one.

Dismissing Dave Brubeck is still a step too far.

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12 minutes ago, mansr said:

Dismissing Dave Brubeck is still a step too far.

 

IMHO it is personal taste not elitist posturing. For example, I deleted my DSD download of the Analogue Productions remastering of Dave Brubeck Quartet's Time Out because I just didn't care for the music. 

 

BTW the DSD download sounded excellent, however I only keep music that I like both the sound quality and the music.


I have dementia. I save all my posts in a text file I call Forums.  I do a search in that file to find out what I said or did in the past.

 

I still love music.

 

Teresa

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2 hours ago, mansr said:

Dismissing Dave Brubeck is still a step too far.

 

1 hour ago, Teresa said:

 

IMHO it is personal taste not elitist posturing. For example, I deleted my DSD download of the Analogue Productions remastering of Dave Brubeck Quartet's Time Out because I just didn't care for the music. 

 

BTW the DSD download sounded excellent, however I only keep music that I like both the sound quality and the music.

 

I didn't dismiss him although I have only his 'Time Out' SACD (also AP, @Teresa I agree - sounds great!). Frankly 'Blue Rondo..' and 'Take Five' are the only tracks from this album I remember. I think his use of meters like 9/8 (Rondo) or 5/4 (Take Five) was quite interesting just as the melodic aspect of both pieces (IMO they deservedly became jazz 'hits').  BTW I believe this meter itself could be a problem for the musicians during the above mentioned session. I don't care that much about the remaining compositions from the album, maybe because I'm not a waltz fan.

In general DB is too smooth for my taste. IMHO his importance in jazz can't be compared with Miles or Trane.


The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils. The motions of his spirit are dull as night, and his affections dark as Erebus. Let no such man be trusted. Mark the music.

                                                                          ―  William Shakespeare.

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, sphinxsix said:

I didn't dismiss him

You characterised him as "white-bread." Seems dismissive to me.

 

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12 minutes ago, sphinxsix said:

his use of meters like 9/8 (Rondo) or 5/4 (Take Five)

That was anything but "blandly conventional" at the time.

 

If you don't like his style, that's fine, but the "white-bread" label really doesn't sit well here.

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4 minutes ago, mansr said:

That was anything but "blandly conventional" at the time.

I agree in 100%!

 

5 minutes ago, mansr said:

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Seems I misunderstood the term. Thanks for the English lesson!


The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils. The motions of his spirit are dull as night, and his affections dark as Erebus. Let no such man be trusted. Mark the music.

                                                                          ―  William Shakespeare.

 

 

 

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It's an American lesson.

 

 

wait a bit to turn on the sound and avoid the ad:

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

It's an American lesson.

 

 

wait a bit to turn on the sound and avoid the ad:

 

 


 

Of course the Americans even weaponized jazz,🤧.

 


 

Still nice video.


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I've used the term white-bread to describe a certain audiophile Scandahoovian jazz recording.

 

Maybe Brubeck is white-bread, but it is fortified with vitamins, minerals, and time changes

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12 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

I've used the term white-bread to describe a certain audiophile Scandahoovian jazz recording.

 

Maybe Brubeck is white-bread, but it is fortified with vitamins, minerals, and time changes

IIRC, Take Five is one of the tracks on that recording you so despise.

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Check out the 2 CD set of the Dave Brubeck Quartet with Gerry Mulligan Live at the Berlin and tell me if that sounds white bread to you. Some damn good blues piano on that one.

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