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I just posted this on the “novel “thread, by accident, I intended to post it here. 

 

I put in my feature request to have Roon serve up files and URLs to the engine/player of my choice.  


this is your chance to back me up if you think it is a good idea😁

 

signed - Johnny Storm

 

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On 2/3/2021 at 11:47 PM, ray-dude said:

From my experience using the alpha release of TAS, above is spot on.  Very clever and very thoughtful implementation, with meticulous and systematic attention to every detail.  Emile and team are bringing the same focus to software as they do to hardware and system configuration.  

 

Beta also landed recently and it's (even more?) spectacular according to this report

 

https://www.monoandstereo.com/2021/02/tas-by-taiko-audio.html

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Although Taiko Audio TAS is still in the beta experimental stage, the current sound reproduction is stunning, to say the least. The unprecedented sonic gain gives new meaning to the "source first" philosophy.

 

TAS versus Roon, the former one seemed to be largely unaffected by network tweaks while the latter one didn't show such "indifference" if you will

 

https://www.aktives-hoeren.de/viewtopic.php?p=197976#p197976

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Interessanterweise berichten viele Beta-Tester, dass Netzwerk-Tweaks mit TAS wenig bis keinen Einfluss mehr haben, wohingegen mit Roon weiterhin ein deutlicher Unterschied zu hören ist. Ich freue mich jedenfalls schon darauf dies selbst zu testen, habe schon einen Fiber gegen Ethernet-Vergleich aufgebaut.

 

If the software were done right, IMHO that could potentially "get away" with less-than-spectacular hardware as indicated above.

 

Pretty much the same deal as another example below, the author kept finding new ways to optimize the Xenomai 3 co-kernel system in addition to the Linux kernel since August 2020

 

https://www.my-hiend.com/vbb/showthread.php?5404-走向超值而極緻的-HI-FI電腦訊源(連載)&p=243263#post243263

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再分享小弟的另外的經驗,自小弟發表的Lite至Noel版的過程中,加上常跑「新天新地」,發現訊源越正確,可以省下大電功或多顆電容的錢。
我常常在更新版本後發現的新聲音,Box卻可以用多加電容或大電功把藍光機擠出聲音來。
所以小弟也就可以不用投資那麼多電容和空間了。

 

http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19465#p19465

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自Noël版本出線後,小弟發現訊源夠強,可以省電供!
在不斷的版本更新升級,樂器的真實感越來越好,動態也越來越高。
至Noël V3,小弟曾試過大瓦數電供,狀況並沒有比小弟現役的Daitron LFS150(100W)好。

 

Even having a beefy PSU plus cascading multiple gigantic capacitors no longer provided an advantage, the latest Noël V3 version managed to hit the bullseye and let's see how it goes when Xenomai 3 and ipipe are replaced by EVL and Dovetail.

 

(Google Translate is your friend.)

 


 

FYI - more about Daitron here

 

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/battery-power-for-router.25835/#post-540824

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/24966-ecdesigns/page/36/?tab=comments#comment-1075104

https://www.militaryaerospace.com/unmanned/article/16719132/navy-chooses-150watt-power-supplies-from-daitron-for-underwater-warfare-systems-support

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FYI - Bug head 12.56 will be released soon and it's optimized for the ASIO driver of Chord USB DACs

 

https://archive.is/et6Uk

https://cdorya.hatenablog.jp/entry/2021/02/11/075624

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Bug head 12.56 について

現在、XMOS USB Drivers へ最適化していますが、これを CHROD USB-DAC のASIOドライバーにも対応するように、ASIO処理で行っているXMMレジスタの電子ビットスタビライザー処理を強化します。

 

http://www.mics.ne.jp/~cdorya/#download

 

(DeepL Translate is your friend.)

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45 minutes ago, Johnseye said:

Heya Nenon, did you ever get a chance to compare the NET Card XE with Solarflare 8522?

 

I haven't bought the NET Card XE yet. I do most of my critical listening with no network connectivity. I also got great results from the onboard NIC on the ASUS Sage motherboard for the times when I discover new music with Roon / Qobuz. 

But once I get the new chassis from Taiko, I will be experimenting more. 

 

Speaking of the new chassis, Emile and the Taiko team have been swamped with the TAS installations this month and he is behind schedule. Hopefully we'd see the chassis drawings and pricing soon 🤞.

 

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On 9/10/2020 at 10:10 PM, rickca said:

A couple of dates to keep for AMD announcements.

 

Zen 3 CPUs  October 8 (12PM EDT)  

RX 6000 GPUs  October 28 (12PM EDT)

 

I am hoping for an Intel announcement of Rocket Lake-S desktop CPUs in the same timeframe, but they may have slipped into 1Q2021.

 

TSMC will make Intel CPUs on 3nm in 2022, largest order of 3nm process
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/77583/tsmc-will-make-intel-cpus-on-3nm-in-2022-largest-order-of-process/index.html

 

Samsung will reportedly make 3nm processors at expanded Texas plant
https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/22/22243994/samsung-chipmaking-texas-plant-3nm-10-billion-report

 

TSMC secures Apple contract for its 3 nm process chips
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4084966

 

TSMC to Begin Production of 3nm Chips This Year
https://www.macrumors.com/2021/01/15/tsmc-risk-production-3nm-chips-2021/

 

Intel, AMD Chiefs Push For Tax Breaks In U.S. $3 Billion, 3nm Chip Development Plan
https://wccftech.com/intel-amd-chiefs-tax-breaks-in-u-s-3-billion-3nm-chip-plan/

 


 

The race is ON, though we might be more interested in the ones on the left

 

https://twitter.com/momomo_us/status/1360638364823801857

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Let's wait and see if Asus were coming up with their successor to WS C621E SAGE then.

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Is the Asus ROG MAXIMUS XI GENE a decent upgrade from AS Rock z390 phantom itx for 1151 processors?

 

I have the same M2->PCI adaptor that Nenon uses, but am wondering if it's worth me switching motherboards to remove this.

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1 hour ago, Gavin1977 said:

Is the Asus ROG MAXIMUS XI GENE a decent upgrade from AS Rock z390 phantom itx for 1151 processors?

 

I have the same M2->PCI adaptor that Nenon uses, but am wondering if it's worth me switching motherboards to remove this.

I "side-graded" from the Asus Strix z390-i to the Gigabyte Designare Z390 FWIW. This afforded me with two additional direct to CPU PCI-E slots. I also went with one of these to bring my Optane 800P to a CPU direct lane:

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0773ZR6L8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

There is now an increased sense of ease going CPU direct with Network, Storage, and USB card. I am not saying the motherboard is of higher quality, but, the architectural differences may be worthwhile.

 

Also, this board isolates EPS 12v from ATX 12v.

 

Good luck!

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How do you find out which PCIE ports are connected direct to CPU? 
 

My motherboard is Asus ROG Maximus X1 Formula Z390

 

My 2 cards are connected as follows

 

PCIEX16_1 — Pink Faun USB

 

PCIEX16_2 — JCAT Eth card

 

32GB Optane connected to M.2_1

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https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/496162/list-pci-lanes-differentiated-by-dmi-lanes-vs-directly-attached-cpu-lanes/553325#553325

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lspci -tv

 

in this example, devices before 0x14 are connected to the CPU root complex. At or after 0x14 are behind the PCH.

 

-[0000:00]-+-00.0  Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller
       +-01.0-[01]----00.0  Intel Corporation Express Flash NVMe P4500/P4600
       +-14.0  Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI
       +-16.0  Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1
       +-16.1  Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #2
       +-1a.0  Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #2
       +-1c.0-[02]--
       +-1c.2-[03]----00.0  Intel Corporation I210 Gigabit Network Connection
       +-1c.3-[04]----00.0  Intel Corporation I210 Gigabit Network Connection
       +-1c.7-[05-06]----00.0-[06]----00.0  ASPEED Technology, Inc. ASPEED Graphics Family
       +-1d.0  Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #1
       +-1f.0  Intel Corporation C224 Series Chipset Family Server Standard SKU LPC Controller
       +-1f.2  Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode]
       \-1f.3  Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller

 

 

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On 2/8/2020 at 9:04 AM, lmitche said:

You can view the device hierarchy in windows and linux. Use the connection view in windows device manager or the lspci -t command in linux. Anything at the first level is CPU connected.

 

Otherwise you need a block diagram for the motherboard in question. They can be hard to find.

 

PCI Utilities (lspci, setpci) for Windows

https://eternallybored.org/misc/pciutils/

 

SIW - Hardware Inventory Module
https://www.gtopala.com/siw/hardware.php

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SIW helps you find what those unknown PCI devices in Device Manager really are. By checking Device Manager for unknown devices and extracting information from it, this program attempts to figure out what the PCI device is.
Similar with Linux's lspci, but for Windows.

 

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4 hours ago, k27R said:

Is there a consensus of which PCIE cards  are better direct to CPU or through PcH?

 

Let me try to give a short response at least once:

The general consensus is direct to CPU is better. But... (okay, I won't go there :) ).

 

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44 minutes ago, Nenon said:

 

Let me try to give a short response at least once:

The general consensus is direct to CPU is better. But... (okay, I won't go there :) ).

 

 

Are there some exceptions to the rule?

 

The SGM Extreme ASM3142 USB out goes through PCH for example. Zero complaints there from many.

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