Popular Post Nenon Posted February 9, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 hours ago, NewOldman said: its a huge difference between US power (120v) and European 220-240 power system, The US i a crappy system with a lot of interferens compare to the clean Eu system, dminches, hicr49 and Exocer 2 1 Industry disclosure: Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Aries Cerat, Audio Mirror, Sean Jacobs https://chicagohifi.com Link to comment
MarkusBarkus Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 ...of course modern (and not so modern) US homes have 220V to the panel...but it's not metric. 😉 I'm MarkusBarkus and I approve this post. Link to comment
drjimwillie Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I just posted this on the “novel “thread, by accident, I intended to post it here. I put in my feature request to have Roon serve up files and URLs to the engine/player of my choice. this is your chance to back me up if you think it is a good idea😁 signed - Johnny Storm Link to comment
ASRMichael Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Nenon said: Link to comment
Popular Post Nenon Posted February 9, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, drjimwillie said: I just posted this on the “novel “thread, by accident, I intended to post it here. I put in my feature request to have Roon serve up files and URLs to the engine/player of my choice. this is your chance to back me up if you think it is a good idea😁 signed - Johnny Storm Roon never listens to mortals, no matter how many of them support you :). ASRMichael, genvirt and Exocer 3 Industry disclosure: Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Aries Cerat, Audio Mirror, Sean Jacobs https://chicagohifi.com Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 11:47 PM, ray-dude said: From my experience using the alpha release of TAS, above is spot on. Very clever and very thoughtful implementation, with meticulous and systematic attention to every detail. Emile and team are bringing the same focus to software as they do to hardware and system configuration. Beta also landed recently and it's (even more?) spectacular according to this report https://www.monoandstereo.com/2021/02/tas-by-taiko-audio.html Quote Although Taiko Audio TAS is still in the beta experimental stage, the current sound reproduction is stunning, to say the least. The unprecedented sonic gain gives new meaning to the "source first" philosophy. TAS versus Roon, the former one seemed to be largely unaffected by network tweaks while the latter one didn't show such "indifference" if you will https://www.aktives-hoeren.de/viewtopic.php?p=197976#p197976 Quote Interessanterweise berichten viele Beta-Tester, dass Netzwerk-Tweaks mit TAS wenig bis keinen Einfluss mehr haben, wohingegen mit Roon weiterhin ein deutlicher Unterschied zu hören ist. Ich freue mich jedenfalls schon darauf dies selbst zu testen, habe schon einen Fiber gegen Ethernet-Vergleich aufgebaut. If the software were done right, IMHO that could potentially "get away" with less-than-spectacular hardware as indicated above. Pretty much the same deal as another example below, the author kept finding new ways to optimize the Xenomai 3 co-kernel system in addition to the Linux kernel since August 2020 https://www.my-hiend.com/vbb/showthread.php?5404-走向超值而極緻的-HI-FI電腦訊源（連載）&p=243263#post243263 Quote 再分享小弟的另外的經驗，自小弟發表的Lite至Noel版的過程中，加上常跑「新天新地」，發現訊源越正確，可以省下大電功或多顆電容的錢。 我常常在更新版本後發現的新聲音，Box卻可以用多加電容或大電功把藍光機擠出聲音來。 所以小弟也就可以不用投資那麼多電容和空間了。 http://www.stsd99.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19465#p19465 Quote 自Noël版本出線後，小弟發現訊源夠強，可以省電供！ 在不斷的版本更新升級，樂器的真實感越來越好，動態也越來越高。 至Noël V3，小弟曾試過大瓦數電供，狀況並沒有比小弟現役的Daitron LFS150(100W)好。 Even having a beefy PSU plus cascading multiple gigantic capacitors no longer provided an advantage, the latest Noël V3 version managed to hit the bullseye and let's see how it goes when Xenomai 3 and ipipe are replaced by EVL and Dovetail. (Google Translate is your friend.) FYI - more about Daitron here https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/battery-power-for-router.25835/#post-540824 https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/24966-ecdesigns/page/36/?tab=comments#comment-1075104 https://www.militaryaerospace.com/unmanned/article/16719132/navy-chooses-150watt-power-supplies-from-daitron-for-underwater-warfare-systems-support flkin 1 Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 FYI - Bug head 12.56 will be released soon and it's optimized for the ASIO driver of Chord USB DACs https://archive.is/et6Uk https://cdorya.hatenablog.jp/entry/2021/02/11/075624 Quote Bug head 12.56 について 現在、XMOS USB Drivers へ最適化していますが、これを CHROD USB-DAC のASIOドライバーにも対応するように、ASIO処理で行っているXMMレジスタの電子ビットスタビライザー処理を強化します。 http://www.mics.ne.jp/~cdorya/#download (DeepL Translate is your friend.) Gavin1977 1 Link to comment
Popular Post bit01 Posted February 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2021 On 2/8/2021 at 4:42 PM, bit01 said: I have tried the Mundorf Ag/Au 15.5 AWG DIY DC cable as follows: SR7T -> HDPlex 800W DC-ATX Reference - 1 M Gotham OFC 16AWG (Ghent Audio Custom HG01) JSSG 1. 1 ft Au/Ag unshielded-> XLR at PC -> 1 ft Au/Ag (JSSG) 2. 1 ft SPC shielded -> XLR at PC -> 1 ft Au/Ag (JSSG) Even though the tonality of 1 & 2 is similar, I much prefer 2. for PRaT. My conclusion - Au/Ag may be better in 1 ft than in 2 ft lengths for PRaT in this leg. I cannot be 100% certain until I try a shielded version in 1. Nevertheless the PRaT loss perceived in 1. is quite significant. I have a correction to make - I take back the PRaT loss observation mentioned in that post. I double checked the Mundorf cable and found a ground pin error in the soldered connector that was causing a ground loop instead of a 'through connection' for the star grounding to the SR7T. I use four ground pins (two for EPS and two for the DC-ATX) and had crossed two of them. After correcting that the music really is grabbing my attention. So connection as in 1. is quite fine. Apologies. The final step will be to get rid of the case XLR connector altogether and run shielded cables straight into the Molexs ATB b. Exocer and StreamFidelity 2 Link to comment
Johnseye Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Heya Nenon, did you ever get a chance to compare the NET Card XE with Solarflare 8522? On the power cable topic I'm strongly considering giving the Snake River Signature Series Hybrid Power Cable a go. Some solid feedback on it and I'm curious about its gold/silver/copper "recipe". Audio System Link to comment
Nenon Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, Johnseye said: Heya Nenon, did you ever get a chance to compare the NET Card XE with Solarflare 8522? I haven't bought the NET Card XE yet. I do most of my critical listening with no network connectivity. I also got great results from the onboard NIC on the ASUS Sage motherboard for the times when I discover new music with Roon / Qobuz. But once I get the new chassis from Taiko, I will be experimenting more. Speaking of the new chassis, Emile and the Taiko team have been swamped with the TAS installations this month and he is behind schedule. Hopefully we'd see the chassis drawings and pricing soon 🤞. lwr 1 Industry disclosure: Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Aries Cerat, Audio Mirror, Sean Jacobs https://chicagohifi.com Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30376-a-novel-way-to-massively-improve-the-sq-of-computer-audio-streaming/page/700/?tab=comments#comment-1078960 On 9/10/2020 at 10:10 PM, rickca said: A couple of dates to keep for AMD announcements. Zen 3 CPUs October 8 (12PM EDT) RX 6000 GPUs October 28 (12PM EDT) I am hoping for an Intel announcement of Rocket Lake-S desktop CPUs in the same timeframe, but they may have slipped into 1Q2021. TSMC will make Intel CPUs on 3nm in 2022, largest order of 3nm process https://www.tweaktown.com/news/77583/tsmc-will-make-intel-cpus-on-3nm-in-2022-largest-order-of-process/index.html Samsung will reportedly make 3nm processors at expanded Texas plant https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/22/22243994/samsung-chipmaking-texas-plant-3nm-10-billion-report TSMC secures Apple contract for its 3 nm process chips https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4084966 TSMC to Begin Production of 3nm Chips This Year https://www.macrumors.com/2021/01/15/tsmc-risk-production-3nm-chips-2021/ Intel, AMD Chiefs Push For Tax Breaks In U.S. $3 Billion, 3nm Chip Development Plan https://wccftech.com/intel-amd-chiefs-tax-breaks-in-u-s-3-billion-3nm-chip-plan/ The race is ON, though we might be more interested in the ones on the left https://twitter.com/momomo_us/status/1360638364823801857 Let's wait and see if Asus were coming up with their successor to WS C621E SAGE then. Link to comment
Popular Post Csaba Posted February 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2021 I’m finally ready with my audio PC build and would like to say a big thank you for all your guidance and help to contribute in choosing the right components. Motherboard: ASUS Rog Strix Z390-i RAM: Apacer ECC Ram 2x8Gb (D31.23245S.001), which was very difficult to get CPU: I7-9700 (max turbo frequency capped on 4.2 GHz) Storage for OS: 118 Gb Intel Optane 800 Storage for music: 1Tb Intel 665p SSD PSU: Core Audio – DAIDO Barebone Entry Case: Streacom FC10 Alpha No USB or Ethernet card yet, as I’m using this PC as a „transport” for my SOtM SMS-200ultra, but planning to experiment in the coming months. Exocer, BTO, beautiful music and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment
Gavin1977 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Is the Asus ROG MAXIMUS XI GENE a decent upgrade from AS Rock z390 phantom itx for 1151 processors? I have the same M2->PCI adaptor that Nenon uses, but am wondering if it's worth me switching motherboards to remove this. Link to comment
Popular Post Exocer Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Gavin1977 said: Is the Asus ROG MAXIMUS XI GENE a decent upgrade from AS Rock z390 phantom itx for 1151 processors? I have the same M2->PCI adaptor that Nenon uses, but am wondering if it's worth me switching motherboards to remove this. I "side-graded" from the Asus Strix z390-i to the Gigabyte Designare Z390 FWIW. This afforded me with two additional direct to CPU PCI-E slots. I also went with one of these to bring my Optane 800P to a CPU direct lane: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0773ZR6L8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 There is now an increased sense of ease going CPU direct with Network, Storage, and USB card. I am not saying the motherboard is of higher quality, but, the architectural differences may be worthwhile. Also, this board isolates EPS 12v from ATX 12v. Good luck! Gavin1977 and 87mpi 1 1 Link to comment
Gavin1977 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Thanks will keep my eye out for a GigabyteDesignare Z390 Link to comment
Gavin1977 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 ASRock Hyper BCLK Engine II - is this feature worth having. I can't find anyone who's tried on Audiophilestyle. Seems to be a more accurate clock, but no details of what it actually is. Link to comment
Gavin1977 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Where is blck clock usually generated on Intel 1151 / Z390 - do they always have external clocks? Looking at my existing ASRock Phantom Gaming ITX I don't think I can see an external clock. Link to comment
ASRMichael Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 How do you find out which PCIE ports are connected direct to CPU? My motherboard is Asus ROG Maximus X1 Formula Z390 My 2 cards are connected as follows PCIEX16_1 — Pink Faun USB PCIEX16_2 — JCAT Eth card 32GB Optane connected to M.2_1 Link to comment
seeteeyou Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/496162/list-pci-lanes-differentiated-by-dmi-lanes-vs-directly-attached-cpu-lanes/553325#553325 Quote lspci -tv in this example, devices before 0x14 are connected to the CPU root complex. At or after 0x14 are behind the PCH. -[0000:00]-+-00.0 Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller +-01.0-[01]----00.0 Intel Corporation Express Flash NVMe P4500/P4600 +-14.0 Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI +-16.0 Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 +-16.1 Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #2 +-1a.0 Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #2 +-1c.0-[02]-- +-1c.2-[03]----00.0 Intel Corporation I210 Gigabit Network Connection +-1c.3-[04]----00.0 Intel Corporation I210 Gigabit Network Connection +-1c.7-[05-06]----00.0-[06]----00.0 ASPEED Technology, Inc. ASPEED Graphics Family +-1d.0 Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #1 +-1f.0 Intel Corporation C224 Series Chipset Family Server Standard SKU LPC Controller +-1f.2 Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode] \-1f.3 Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/58164-building-a-diy-music-server/page/5/?tab=comments#comment-1026706 On 2/8/2020 at 9:04 AM, lmitche said: You can view the device hierarchy in windows and linux. Use the connection view in windows device manager or the lspci -t command in linux. Anything at the first level is CPU connected. Otherwise you need a block diagram for the motherboard in question. They can be hard to find. PCI Utilities (lspci, setpci) for Windows https://eternallybored.org/misc/pciutils/ SIW - Hardware Inventory Module https://www.gtopala.com/siw/hardware.php Quote SIW helps you find what those unknown PCI devices in Device Manager really are. By checking Device Manager for unknown devices and extracting information from it, this program attempts to figure out what the PCI device is. Similar with Linux's lspci, but for Windows. ASRMichael 1 Link to comment
Popular Post lmitche Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, ASRMichael said: How do you find out which PCIE ports are connected direct to CPU? My motherboard is Asus ROG Maximus X1 Formula Z390 My 2 cards are connected as follows PCIEX16_1 — Pink Faun USB PCIEX16_2 — JCAT Eth card 32GB Optane connected to M.2_1 With ASUS boards, if you read the technical specification top to bottom on the website or in the manual it usually tells you. For your board, PCIE slots 1 and 2 are direct to cpu. All the M.2 slots connect via the PCH. In the old days block diagrams with this information were published in the motherboard manuals. I don't know why they stopped this. Few new Intel gaming motherboards have any M.2 slots direct to cpu. X570 and B450 AMD motherboards often have 2 direct M.2 slots, but the new B550s are all one M.2 direct to cpu. X299 boards are almost all direct to cpu. ASRMichael and Exocer 2 Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
k27R Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Is there a consensus of which PCIE cards are better direct to CPU or through PcH? Link to comment
Nenon Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 hours ago, k27R said: Is there a consensus of which PCIE cards are better direct to CPU or through PcH? Let me try to give a short response at least once: The general consensus is direct to CPU is better. But... (okay, I won't go there ). Industry disclosure: Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Aries Cerat, Audio Mirror, Sean Jacobs https://chicagohifi.com Link to comment
Exocer Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 44 minutes ago, Nenon said: Let me try to give a short response at least once: The general consensus is direct to CPU is better. But... (okay, I won't go there ). Are there some exceptions to the rule? The SGM Extreme ASM3142 USB out goes through PCH for example. Zero complaints there from many. 87mpi 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Nenon Posted February 21, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 40 minutes ago, Exocer said: Are there some exceptions to the rule? The SGM Extreme ASM3142 USB out goes through PCH for example. Zero complaints there from many. The question was about PCIe, not USB... On my previous build, the USB connected to the CPU sounded better. But after upgrading the chipset clock with PinkFaun ultraOCXO clock, the USB going through the chipset sounded better. On my Asus SAGE motherboard I prefer the JCAT USB XE card powered by a DC4 LPS. In fact, I haven't been able to make the onboard USB to sound that good. Perhaps Emile has done something on the Extreme that I haven't. But Taiko is releasing a USB card, so that means there is something that works better there as well... Exocer and lwr 2 Industry disclosure: Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Aries Cerat, Audio Mirror, Sean Jacobs https://chicagohifi.com Link to comment
Popular Post OAudio Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 Intel "client" level Optane SSDs go end of life this month. Just a heads up for anyone considering using an Optane drive and who has not heard about Intel's change of market strategy on Optane. I got a distributor bulleting late last year to saying some Intel SSDs were to go end of life in Q1. In the announcement recently are all of the "client" level 900p and 905p series Optane devices are withdrawn this month (Feb). Going forward the available high capacity, none hybrid, Optane drives are all to be "data centre" units which are significantly more expensive than the withdrawn 900p and 905p ranges. It might have been mentioned in other threads I haven't seen, but thought I would call it out here is case anyone is thinking about using Optane SSDs in the near future. Right now would be the time to buy if you need one of the last 900p / 905p series drives. OAudio Exocer, k27R, genvirt and 1 other 3 1 OAudio Ltd. OAudio Supreme - music server. OAudio RealStream - digital audio components. Link to comment
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