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Plextor's PlexWriter Premium as well as its successor Premium2 (ATAPI / IDE only) are great for burning Mitsubishi Green Tune CD-R / MAM-A Gold Audio Master but anything new from Plextor ain't gonna cut it, though their SCSI drives from Japan were quite famous back then while anything new from "Plextor" ain't even worth much salt anymore — all of them are merely OEM products (i.e. their DVD / BD drives are manufactured by someone else)

 

https://www.wtsmedia.com/m-38-MAM-A.aspx

http://designwsound.com/dwsblog/2010/07/plextor-premium2/

https://www.genesisloudspeakers.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Black_CD_Paper_Ultimate.pdf

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/crystal-disc-us-1600-was-played-with-genesis-speaker.11773/page-5#post-213256

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/crystal-disc-us-1600-was-played-with-genesis-speaker.11773/page-16#post-219732

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/crystal-disc-us-1600-was-played-with-genesis-speaker.11773/page-16#post-219777

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/crystal-disc-us-1600-was-played-with-genesis-speaker.11773/page-16#post-219784

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/crystal-disc-us-1600-was-played-with-genesis-speaker.11773/page-18#post-229761

 

High maintenance stuff given their ripe old age

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000160098129.html

 


 

The "best" SATA drives for ripping purposes are only manufactured by Pioneer these days

 

https://jpn.pioneer/ja/pcperipherals/bdd/products/bdr_s12j_x/

https://forum.cdrinfo.pl/f107/pioneer-bdr-s12j-bk-bdr-s12j-x-bdr-212-ultra-hd-blu-ray-97727/

https://www.amazon.co.jp/パイオニア-Pioneer-内蔵BDドライブ(BDXL対応)ソフト付属-BDR-S12J-X/dp/B07NBC3RTF

 

Here are the "best" enclosures out there

 

https://ppastudio.blogspot.com/2016/05/cd-ripping.html

https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=4a6a8fbc430fc31c&id=4A6A8FBC430FC31C!2440&authkey=!AJilqFWzWt60u0o

 

https://www.dela-audio.com/product/d10/

https://www.amazon.co.jp/DELA-D10P-X-J-プレミアム光ディスクドライブ/dp/B08JYT7TLF

https://www.amazon.co.jp/DELA-限定生産フラッグシップモデル-リッピング用光ディスクドライブ-D10-X-J/dp/B07LFTC4PW

 

https://nandeaudio.com/product/ultra_silent_ripper/

https://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=134406

 

https://www.ratocaudiolab.com/product/ral/ral_ec5u3p/

https://www.amazon.co.jp/ラトックシステム-CDリッピング用-制振強化5インチドライブプレミアムケース(RAL-EC5U3P)/dp/B07N6H15XQ

 


 

The software part as follows

 

https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads

https://developer.nvidia.com/nsight-visual-studio-edition-2020_3

https://developer.nvidia.com/nsight-visual-studio-edition-2020_3-new-features

https://docs.nvidia.com/nsight-visual-studio-edition/2020.3/Nsight_Visual_Studio_Edition_User_Guide.htm

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/19715-hq-player/page/298/?tab=comments#comment-619193

On 1/15/2017 at 12:22 AM, louisxiawei said:

The result is that while two powerful graphic cards are burning to "death" at high temperature, which only water-cooling system can remedy it, but the sound improvement is stunning compared to the sound with GPU's single-precision setting at HQplayer's CUDA offloads ticked. Some of these players also report that by using Process Lasso together altering the CPU's setting, the SQ will be improved further.

 

http://www.myav.com.tw/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=20477991&perpage=1&pagenumber=5

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作業方法:當然一定要在ramos的環境中然後開啟pureread+用最慢的速度rib(大概是1.2x),rib時直接儲存在記憶體內,在ramos裏再用一個虛擬硬碟把rib好的音樂放到虛擬硬碟裡重組過,就完成完美的wav檔了
補充一下:eac.exe一定要上cuda並用NVIDIA Nsight HUD Launcher開啟。

 

http://www.myav.com.tw/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=20477991&perpage=1&pagenumber=8

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昨天聽CITYMASTER兄RIP的檔案
經過CUDA RIP處理後的音樂檔果然與一般檔案差異很大
沒有躁訊,聲音更為溫潤
聽起來更為自然(我沒說像黑膠)

 

http://www.myav.com.tw/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=20469838&perpage=12&pagenumber=55

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這種CUDA+ECC 比E5 XEON平台的ECC似乎有更大的差異性

 

以下是以EAC掛上CUDA來Rip CD的差異性比較

 

http://www.myav.com.tw/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=20475707&perpage=12&pagenumber=59

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我持續用cuda rip cd的聲音真的很棒,如果大家用EAC的話,建議rip 模式A,B,C選項可以測試一下,我原使用A模式改為C發現高頻更乾淨清楚,唯一麻煩的是所有cd都要重頭rip一次,不過這個心力是非常值得的努力,再次謝謝eljohnchiu大及citymaster大

 

http://www.myav.com.tw/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=20484487

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在桌面看到EAC圖示
直接按右鍵
可以看到
laucher with nsight hud 6.0
執行後就是了

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5 hours ago, genvirt said:

Hope this question is not too much off topic.

My new PC build is without cd drive for ripping, so somebody can advice the best option for ripping and getting best quality and errors (I’m using embedded option of Euphony).

Thank You!

 

 

Depends on what you want to rip.  If just 16/44 (RBCD) I recommend the excellent dBpoweramp.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20180424201542/http://www.digital-inn.de/threads/andre-wiethoff-and-who-feels-to-have-a-say-on-offsets.28787/

https://web.archive.org/web/20180121125830/http://www.digital-inn.de/threads/andre-wiethoff-and-who-feels-to-have-a-say-on-offsets.28787/page-2

https://web.archive.org/web/20180122131901/http://www.digital-inn.de/threads/andre-wiethoff-and-who-feels-to-have-a-say-on-offsets.28787/page-3

https://web.archive.org/web/20120903210117/http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy-english/28787-andre-wiethoff-who-feels-have-say-offsets.html

https://club.myce.com/t/offsets-handling-syncing-of-audio-data-vs-q-channel/100931

https://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/2018/04/cd-rip.html

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A developer did some research some time ago and proved the patient-0 reference to be wrong!!!!!! (meanwhile confirmed by the Accurate Rip designer!) It turned out the Accurate Rip drive offset reference is off by 30 samples !

 

(I'm sitting here and shake my head every time I reread this or think about this debacle.)

 

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I won't recommend dBPoweramp anymore because I am not happy with the license fee handling and because of it's involvement in the Accurate Rip disaster. As a matter of fact you'll be asked to pay for non-accurate rips. If you don't care. Go ahead.

 

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10 hours ago, AME said:

The Hypsos Ferrum is also a combined Lineair and switching and gets pretty good reviews.

https://ferrum.audio/

 

It works completely different that Nenons unregulated LPS plus the Taiko DC-DC ATX.

I would prefer the Nenon/Taiko combo, it is a work of art.

 

Matt

"I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe)

 

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https://www.dela-audio.com

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(海外ではMELCOブランドで展開しており、一部仕様が異なります。)

 

https://www.melco-audio-masters.com/contact.html

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Melco Syncrets Inc. is headquartered in Japan and is a business partnership with Buffalo EU BV and Buffalo Technology (USA), Inc. - subsidiaries of Buffalo Inc. Our European headquarters are situated in The Netherlands.

 

Yeah, both of them really are more or less like "relatives" of Buffalo Technology.

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On 1/10/2021 at 8:48 PM, Nenon said:

It should work, but you would need to try it, especially if you are thinking of building the dual CPU DIY server. 

BTW, the unregulated LPS would not be expensive relatively to regulated linear power supplies. The parts I am using at the moment are less than $1,000 and that is the deluxe version with a bunch of VCAP film caps. 

 

thanks Nenon.

When you have been testing this new development which DAC do you use.

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it will be very useful if a single rail DC4 (reg+recap+transformer) can fit inside the Taiko DIY chassis to power the JCAT XE, along with other unregulated power supply parts and DC-ATX. The JCAT has a molex connector which can be used to power it internally. Possible or is it too tight and can't handle the heat dissipation ?

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1 hour ago, Dev said:

it will be very useful if a single rail DC4 (reg+recap+transformer) can fit inside the Taiko DIY chassis to power the JCAT XE, along with other unregulated power supply parts and DC-ATX.

 

If I weren't mistaken, DC4 rails / regulators wouldn't be sold separately while we've gotta play by the rules

 

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/58164-building-a-diy-music-server/page/44/?tab=comments#comment-1091559

On 11/23/2020 at 5:44 AM, Nenon said:

They currently go to 4 x Sean Jacobs regulators. Unfortunately, I would have to remove those. Sean has an agreement with Innuos not to sell regulators inside a computer. Now that I am affiliated with Sean, I would rather not cause troubles. 

 

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Very interesting @Nenon.

7 hours ago, Nenon said:

Yes, I did. My Sean Jacobs DC4 LPS had more depth and more air. The Taiko solution was faster and more transparent.

 

Was the SJ used through the Taiko DC-ATX or was it powering the CPU directly with separate 12v rail feeding the DC-ATX unit? And/or did you compare both scenarios above with the same results?

 

Up until now, it was understand by many that using a single rail "could" result in more audible noise, as more components share the same rail and could contaminate each other, hence the recent uptick in ATX LPSs with multiple dedicated and isolated rails.

 

Very excited for the SR7T / Unregulated supply testing I will conduct in the next few months. I am wondering if the results will be similar to what you've described 😎.

 

With only 10a on the 19v rail, I would be more comfortable powering the CPU directly and the other components through the 19v rail + Adapter.

 

Does the Asus C621 Sage motherboard utilize a separate 12v for the CPU?

 

 

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9 hours ago, Nenon said:

Yes, I did. My Sean Jacobs DC4 LPS had more depth and more air. The Taiko solution was faster and more transparent.

 

Just for clarification:

 

With the SJ DC4 there was no additional DC-DC ATX converter involved?

You mean with the Taiko solution: Unregulated LPS plus Taiko DC-DC ATX?

Thanks

 

Matt

"I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe)

 

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2 hours ago, Exocer said:

Very interesting @Nenon.

 

Was the SJ used through the Taiko DC-ATX or was it powering the CPU directly with separate 12v rail feeding the DC-ATX unit? And/or did you compare both scenarios above with the same results?

 

Up until now, it was understand by many that using a single rail "could" result in more audible noise, as more components share the same rail and could contaminate each other, hence the recent uptick in ATX LPSs with multiple dedicated and isolated rails.

 

Very excited for the SR7T / Unregulated supply testing I will conduct in the next few months. I am wondering if the results will be similar to what you've described 😎.

 

With only 10a on the 19v rail, I would be more comfortable powering the CPU directly and the other components through the 19v rail + Adapter.

 

Does the Asus C621 Sage motherboard utilize a separate 12v for the CPU?

 

 

 

I don't want to obscure responses to Exocer's good questions, but my understanding was the tech used in the Taiko moved switching noise out of the audible range -- all the more then the benefits of an SMPS, as opposed to staying the course with an ATX supply.

 

I'd like to ask someone to very briefly explain why they think non-regulated DC will work in the DIY server (apart from budget or whether they like it better or not).

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10 hours ago, Nenon said:

I am currently feeding my computer with an unregulated LPS + Taiko ATX and my JCAT XE card with a DC4 for those who are wondering. 

 

Did you find time to compare powering the JCAT XE via DC4 vs via the 5V/4A output from the Taiko ATX?

Thanks

 

Matt

"I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe)

 

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7 hours ago, Nenon said:

 

Currently using the Chord DAVE DAC and a DC4, just like @ray-dude in his excellent article:

 

 

I asked as I have increasingly speculated about which is the most important  component the server or  DAC.  I have been experimenting with my old Benchmark dac 1, the sound quality has been transformed using my current server build. Is it worth buying a very expensive DAC when it is possible to improve the server side so much.

 

Having read @ray-dude 's post obviously the DAC can be improved in a similar way as the server - very careful power supply implementation!!!

 

 

7 hours ago, Nenon said:

 

 

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13 minutes ago, dctom said:

I asked as I have increasingly speculated about which is the most important  component the server or  DAC. 

 

Sorry, but do exist any claims that the DAC is more important than the server?

Thanks

 

Matt

"I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe)

 

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