MarcelNL Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, NewOldman said: sent from where? Netherlands I assume, given that Taiko is a Dutch company. So do check if you need to add VAT/BTW, it's 21% in the Netherlands. ISP, glass to Fritz!box 5530, another Fritz!box 5530 for audio only in bridged mode on LPS, cat8.1, Zyxel switch on LPS, Finisar <1475BTL>Solarflare X2522-25G, external wifi AP, AMD 9 16 core, passive cooling ,Aorus Master x570, LPSU with Taiko ATX, 8Gb Apacer RAM, femto SSD on LPS, Pink Faun I2S ultra OCXO on akiko LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Adagio DAC3, RCA 70-A and Miyaima Zero for mono, G2 PL519 tube amps. Link to comment
guiltyboxswapper Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, StreamFidelity said: I don't have the plus version. And I'm just noticing that this card doesn't support OnLoad at all. One less reason to switch to Linux. 😄 Odd my kernel logs show the card being picked up and accelerated, also in the release notes SFN8522 is listed as a supported Onload card. Link to comment
NewOldman Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, MarcelNL said: Netherlands I assume, given that Taiko is a Dutch company. So do check if you need to add VAT/BTW, it's 21% in the Netherlands. I thought it was Nenon the selling this for Taiko, Link to comment
MarcelNL Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 In the WBF thread Emile mentioned he had quite a bit of interest for the DC-DC converter and would respond by sending a pre order form, but let's wait for Nenon to clarify. The form itself IMO is a too bit too brief.. ISP, glass to Fritz!box 5530, another Fritz!box 5530 for audio only in bridged mode on LPS, cat8.1, Zyxel switch on LPS, Finisar <1475BTL>Solarflare X2522-25G, external wifi AP, AMD 9 16 core, passive cooling ,Aorus Master x570, LPSU with Taiko ATX, 8Gb Apacer RAM, femto SSD on LPS, Pink Faun I2S ultra OCXO on akiko LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Adagio DAC3, RCA 70-A and Miyaima Zero for mono, G2 PL519 tube amps. Link to comment
genvirt Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Nenon said: Dimensions are approximately 170 mm x 78 mm. And the height is know? (Approximately of course). Link to comment
mikicasellas Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, StreamFidelity said: I don't have the plus version. And I'm just noticing that this card doesn't support OnLoad at all. One less reason to switch to Linux. 😄 Here is an overview: 8000 Series 10/40GbE Network Adapters I am confused when searching for the 8552 cause the PIC you uploaded with big heatsinks, is not the one that appears as the non Plus 8552, this is: Link to comment
StreamFidelity Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 @Nenon I very much apologize for disturbing your thread with my Solaflare Card reports. Questions about this are perhaps better off in my thread. I suggest we all focus now on the great DIY Taiko Audio products. 1 hour ago, Nenon said: Dimensions are approximately 170 mm x 78 mm. Here are the HDPLEX dimensions for comparison. MarcelNL 1 Grigg Audio Solutions Owner StreamFidelitys Setup: Sonus Faber Amati Futura | T+A M10 | T+A SDV 3100 HV | fis Audio PC & Server | GigaWatt PC4-EVO+ | JCAT OPTIMO S ATX | FARAD Super10 & Super3 | Keces P8 | Afterdark Buffalo Switch | fis Audio Cables | Solidsteel HJ-3 / HY-A Link to comment
MarcelNL Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 looking at the dissipation of the card on the specs I found is 7 - 10 Watts, surely that can do without a large heatsink. ISP, glass to Fritz!box 5530, another Fritz!box 5530 for audio only in bridged mode on LPS, cat8.1, Zyxel switch on LPS, Finisar <1475BTL>Solarflare X2522-25G, external wifi AP, AMD 9 16 core, passive cooling ,Aorus Master x570, LPSU with Taiko ATX, 8Gb Apacer RAM, femto SSD on LPS, Pink Faun I2S ultra OCXO on akiko LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Adagio DAC3, RCA 70-A and Miyaima Zero for mono, G2 PL519 tube amps. Link to comment
mikicasellas Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 @Nenon Sorry for disturbing your thread MarcelNL 1 Link to comment
Popular Post ASRMichael Posted January 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, MarcelNL said: In the WBF thread Emile mentioned he had quite a bit of interest for the DC-DC converter and would respond by sending a pre order form, but let's wait for Nenon to clarify. The form itself IMO is a too bit too brief.. It’s only asking for initial interest. You’re not buying anything. Just saying yes I want to know more. Sign up & I’m sure you’ll get briefed in due course StreamFidelity and dminches 1 1 Link to comment
MarcelNL Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, ASRMichael said: It’s only asking for initial interest. You’re not buying anything. Just saying yes I want to know more. Sign up & I’m sure you’ll get briefed in due course I did, I'm not scared off that easily ;-) it's just that I think other may be scared off making it more unlikely the piece materialises! ISP, glass to Fritz!box 5530, another Fritz!box 5530 for audio only in bridged mode on LPS, cat8.1, Zyxel switch on LPS, Finisar <1475BTL>Solarflare X2522-25G, external wifi AP, AMD 9 16 core, passive cooling ,Aorus Master x570, LPSU with Taiko ATX, 8Gb Apacer RAM, femto SSD on LPS, Pink Faun I2S ultra OCXO on akiko LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Adagio DAC3, RCA 70-A and Miyaima Zero for mono, G2 PL519 tube amps. Link to comment
Nenon Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, StreamFidelity said: @Nenon I very much apologize for disturbing your thread with my Solaflare Card reports. Questions about this are perhaps better off in my thread. That's fine. You can discuss here if you want to. I like the Solarflare NICs but haven't used them for audio yet. I will be waiting for the big Taiko chassis before I try them. They can get hot! My HDplex case is pretty hot inside already. I did not want to another heating element inside. The massive Taiko chassis would enable me to do experiment a lot more. I think they are definitely worth a try. As 25/50/100/400G is getting more commonly used, the older versions of SolarFlare would be available pretty cheap used on the used market. OpenOnload is also very interesting. I suggested that some time ago and even discussed with Željko, the Euphony developer. He had OpenOnload compiled and ready for testing. I posted about this a while back. If anyone wants to test that, get in touch with Željko / Euphony. I will be quite interested to hear reports about SolarFlare/OpenOnload. I feel like this has some good potential. StreamFidelity 1 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
Popular Post Nenon Posted January 13, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2021 26 minutes ago, NewOldman said: I thought it was Nenon the selling this for Taiko, No, not me. I have no financial affiliation with Taiko. I am just a happy volunteer and a DIY enthusiast in this project. The Taiko ATX would be sold directly from Taiko - Netherlands. 9 minutes ago, ASRMichael said: It’s only asking for initial interest. You’re not buying anything. Just saying yes I want to know more. Sign up & I’m sure you’ll get briefed in due course That's correct. There is a batch on the way to Taiko, due to arrive in March. The list is filling up quickly, Emile told me. I am guessing the first batch would sold out before it arrives. lwr, Exocer and MarcelNL 2 1 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
guiltyboxswapper Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, StreamFidelity said: I don't have the plus version. And I'm just noticing that this card doesn't support OnLoad at all. One less reason to switch to Linux. 😄 Here is an overview: 8000 Series 10/40GbE Network Adapters https://www.xilinx.com/publications/product-briefs/SFN8522-product-brief.pdf "Capabilities such as ultra-low latency, Onload® kernel bypass, class-leading clock synchronization accuracy providing MIFID II readiness, ServerLock® NIC-based firewall, SolarCapture® and more, can be enabled to run on any SFN8500 adapter on the network, making this the one Ethernet adapter to deploy across your data center or cloud infrastructure." OnLoad is available to all 8500 series it seems, looks like website's wrong. It's not a hardware feature per say, its a software feature designed to work with Solarflare cards. Looks like you might have to dust off a USB memory stick and give Linux a try someday @StreamFidelity 🤣 Link to comment
genvirt Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Nenon said: Optimal input seems to be in the 19VDC - 35VDC range, but that may change with more experiments. My future PSU will have 20-21V 5A rail, would it be OK (CPU will got 12V from same PSU straight )? Link to comment
Summit Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, Nenon said: No, not me. I have no financial affiliation with Taiko. I am just a happy volunteer and a DIY enthusiast in this project. The Taiko ATX would be sold directly from Taiko - Netherlands. That's correct. There is a batch on the way to Taiko, due to arrive in March. The list is filling up quickly, Emile told me. I am guessing the first batch would sold out before it arrives. @NenonHave you personally tested the Taiko Audio DC-DC ATX yet? If you have which LPS did you feed it from? Link to comment
Popular Post Nenon Posted January 13, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2021 58 minutes ago, genvirt said: My future PSU will have 20-21V 5A rail, would it be OK (CPU will got 12V from same PSU straight )? My best guess is that would work. I can't see a reason why not, especially if you are not using it to power the CPU. But as I am answering these questions, I have to be careful what I say. I don't want to say "I need your power supply and your computer here to test it before I answer" - that answer would technically be the correct answer to give but would be of no use to anyone. Instead, I am giving you my best guess, but keep in mind it's not impossible to run into some unexpected problems. Just like it happened quite a few times with your build @genvirt - so I am sure you know what I mean. There are two main use cases with the Taiko ATX: 1. A drop in replacement for the Hdplex DC to DC ATX. 2. A new power supply fed by the unregulated LPS I would be posting about. Any other use cases, would have to be your own experiments. This is DIY, so feel free to experiment. 30 minutes ago, Summit said: @NenonHave you personally tested the Taiko Audio DC-DC ATX yet? If you have which LPS did you feed it from? Yes, I have. I am using one at the moment. The pictures I posted are from the unit that was sent to me. It's fed by an unregulated LPS I am still tweaking. More details in the post below: On 1/10/2021 at 12:37 PM, Nenon said: A suggested list of parts and schematics will be provided to make the unregulated AC to DC linear power supply. It would consist of: Transformer —> Rectifier —> Choke —> Filtering capacitors; or to be more complete: IEC inlet/fuse --> SoftStart module -->Transformer —> Rectifier —> Choke —> Filtering capacitors. That unregulated LPS will be tweaked to work with Taiko's ATX module. The output of the unregulated LPS goes to the input of Taiko's module. And we would have: IEC inlet/fuse --> SoftStart module -->Transformer —> Rectifier —> Choke —> Filtering capacitors --> Taiko ATX. The Taiko ATX module has two 8-pin EPS connector outputs, one 24-pin ATX connector and an Auxiliary connector with (+5V and +12V output) for future use. You will need one or two EPS cables (depending on the motherboard used) and one ATX cable to connect the Taiko ATX to your motherboard. That is the entire power supply. The Taiko ATX is super transparent. Tweaking the unregulated power supply has a significant impact on the overall sound. This is one area where we can tweak things. This is also an area where we can have different versions - a more affordable version and a more exotic version. We can potentially add a solderless option to make things easy for those who like building computers but would like to stay away from soldering. I am sure that would be a popular request. This unregulated power supply is something that people can do on their own with parts of their choice. Or use the recommended parts. Taiko would try to arrange stocking the transformer I really liked, to make that more accessible (you have to order hundred(s) to get it). That would be the recommended transformer but you can get whatever transformer you like. The rest is still work in progress. Summit and genvirt 1 1 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
Exocer Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 @Nenon, when you say peak power consumption of your dual Xeon build hovered around 200-300W, this would be from the 12v rail I would assume. How long were those transient peaks? Link to comment
Nenon Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, Exocer said: @Nenon, when you say peak power consumption of your dual Xeon build hovered around 200-300W, this would be from the 12v rail I would assume. How long were those transient peaks? No, that's on the AC end. Last I checked the 12V EPS rail, it was constant ~7A. That of course depends on the OS, load, how you are using the computer, etc. Exocer 1 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
Exocer Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Nenon said: No, that's on the AC end. Last I checked the 12V EPS rail, it was constant ~7A. That of course depends on the OS, load, how you are using the computer, etc. Thanks for clearing that up! My guess is I will also linger around 7A as I do not upsample. Nenon 1 Link to comment
Popular Post JonD Posted January 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2021 @Nenon Just a thought on the size of the case... If you do go with the bigger case then something like my Atacama rack, which is 600mm x 400mm, wouldn't quite be deep enough. However, I do have space for a component to overhang at the back. But in order to do that safely then the feet of the component need to be inside the 600x400 footprint of the shelf. So a few options on where to place the feet of the case on the chassis would be useful to some. 🙂 and i don't know about the rest of you but I am already building up my server funds so i am ready when the DIY kit becomes available. ASRMichael, Nenon, Exocer and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Nenon Posted January 14, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2021 9 hours ago, JonD said: @Nenon Just a thought on the size of the case... If you do go with the bigger case then something like my Atacama rack, which is 600mm x 400mm, wouldn't quite be deep enough. However, I do have space for a component to overhang at the back. But in order to do that safely then the feet of the component need to be inside the 600x400 footprint of the shelf. So a few options on where to place the feet of the case on the chassis would be useful to some. 🙂 and i don't know about the rest of you but I am already building up my server funds so i am ready when the DIY kit becomes available. We looked at several options, but using a smaller case would not work for fitting all the power supply components, transformer cage, etc. At this point we are inclined to go with a big size chassis. Moving the feet anywhere you want should not be difficult but would require a little bit of DIY (i.e. drilling 4 holes). However, Taiko can sell just the CPU coolers for those who want to go with the HDPlex case instead. They would not be the angled CPU heatsinks you see on the Extreme but something easier / cheaper to manufacture, so I expect to be quite affordable. That would be a nice option for people who want something more compact. The Taiko ATX would fit inside the HDPlex. And you would need an external LPS to feed it. I am guessing there will be some demand for an external unregulated power supply to feed the Taiko ATX (from people who are not comfortable building their own). Taiko will not get into the power supply business, but I am looking at a few options here as well. Tatomek7, lwr, StreamFidelity and 2 others 4 1 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
Darryl R Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 59 minutes ago, Nenon said: I am guessing there will be some demand for an external unregulated power supply to feed the Taiko ATX (from people who are not comfortable building their own). Taiko will not get into the power supply business, but I am looking at a few options here as well. Good. I think it's smart to make any and all components as independent and reusable as possible. Tatomek7 1 Link to comment
AME Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 @Nenon, Did you compare your current lineair PSU, I believe with Jean Jacobs components against the Taiko solution? And what are your findings comparing these? The Hypsos Ferrum is also a combined Lineair and switching and gets pretty good reviews. https://ferrum.audio/ Link to comment
genvirt Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Hope this question is not too much off topic. My new PC build is without cd drive for ripping, so somebody can advice the best option for ripping and getting best quality and errors (I’m using embedded option of Euphony). Thank You! Link to comment
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