Popular Post Volfram Posted February 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2020 On 2/5/2020 at 11:55 PM, Nenon said: Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero placed in a H5 case Great minds think alike 😉 See my current build in attached picture. Cheers Solstice380, i.deklein, adamaley and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Nenon Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 49 minutes ago, Volfram said: Great minds think alike 😉 See my current build in attached picture. Cheers Nice :). Post some feedback when it's running. Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
lmitche Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 On 2/5/2020 at 5:55 PM, Nenon said: What I don't like about the case is that this plate needs to come out completely every time you want to add or remove a PCIe card. But I haven't assembled it yet, so maybe there is a workaround this. It also feels a little cheaper quality than the Streacom, and I wish the top and bottom plates were thicker. Having just completed a build in a Hdplex H3V3 case, the ability to remove the backplate is a unique and a much appreciated aspect of this new Hdplex case. Compared to a Streacom F9, the Hdplex was much more flexible enabling use of all the pcie slots of a MicroAtx motherboard in a smaller case than the H5. While I understand that one could consider the aluminum materials used in Streacom to be of higher quality, the Hdplex uses a mix of steel and aluminum in a practical, highly evolved design. Hdplex cases will be my first choice going forward. Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
Nenon Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, lmitche said: Having just completed a build in a Hdplex H3V3 case, the ability to remove the backplate is a unique and a much appreciated aspect of this new Hdplex case. Compared to a Streacom F9, the Hdplex was much more flexible enabling use of all the pcie slots of a MicroAtx motherboard in a smaller case than the H5. While I understand that one could consider the aluminum materials used in Streacom to be of higher quality, the Hdplex uses a mix of steel and aluminum in a practical, highly evolved design. Hdplex cases will be my first choice going forward. Better overall design with what seems like cheaper materials. I like how the passive cooling is done. More copper pipes with rounded grooves in the heatsink for more contact surface. Pretty nice. I haven't done a comparison between the heat dissipation on the Streacom FC9 and the HdPlex H5, but my money would be on the H5. I also like that the HdPlex is the first passive cooling chassis that gives you the option to use all PCIe slots without extenders. It makes me wonder what the hell those manufacturers have been thinking all these years! As for the removing plate - I am glad you like it, but I find that part of the design the worst thing about this chassis. In order to add or remove a single PCIe card, you have to detach all of them from the plate, and you have to remove the entire plate. This is horrible, especially when you have a bunch of power connectors installed on that plate with nicely routed short thick wires like I do in my builds. I guess I will have to make those wires longer now (increased output impedance) to make it possible to add / remove PCIe cards. I would not call that genius design. Emile has done it right (again!) on the Taiko Extreme. Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
Popular Post dctom Posted February 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2020 I have just used the Hdplex H5 for a simpler build i.e. Asrock Z390 ITX no pci board. It is running well and is keeping the i79700T at around 35 deg C. I am using audiolinux with HQplayer 4 with poly-sinc-ext2 and ASDM7EC, 2x dsd. Very pleased so far. It is running as a server for my i7 NUC client. This has provided a superior SQ to using the ASrock as an all in one. beautiful music and motberg 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Nenon Posted February 10, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, dctom said: I have just used the Hdplex H5 for a simpler build i.e. Asrock Z390 ITX no pci board. It is running well and is keeping the i79700T at around 35 deg C. I am using audiolinux with HQplayer 4 with poly-sinc-ext2 and ASDM7EC, 2x dsd. Very pleased so far. It is running as a server for my i7 NUC client. This has provided a superior SQ to using the ASrock as an all in one. Glad you like it. Your CPU is somewhat easier to cool compared to some of the higher power CPUs. Nonetheless, I have no doubts in the cooling capabilities of the H5. That's why I bought one too. Also, I am not surprised that you liked the server/streamer solution better. There are some special considerations for making a single box sound better - powerful CPU, very clean power with a lot of headroom (especially for the CPU), PCIe card for the digital output externally powered by a good LPS, and many other small details, that can be seen in my build. Plus, I don't upsample with HqPlayer, so that could make a big difference too. I have 8 CPU cores / 16 threads on my server. You can rarely see any of them exceeding 1% CPU utilization and the frequency quite often goes over 4 Ghz and rarely under 3.5 Ghz (without explicitly configuring any CPU frequency settings). This is when the magic happens. BTW, since this a "Building a DIY Music Server" feel free to post some pictures of your build. beautiful music and Solstice380 1 1 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
lmitche Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 2/9/2020 at 4:52 PM, Nenon said: As for the removing plate - I am glad you like it, but I find that part of the design the worst thing about this chassis. Funny, in my mind the removable back plate is the best feature of this case. The Streacom has a similar challenge with it's 2, not 4, usable pcie slots with the back plate riveted in place. We will need to agree to disagree on this point.👍 Nenon 1 Pareto Audio aka nuckleheadaudio Link to comment
dctom Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Nenon said: BTW, since this a "Building a DIY Music Server" feel free to post some pictures of your build. Will do when I open up again to fit the Apacer ram, hopefully quite soon! Yes I decided to take the lower power route, I do have a PH SR7 19v + 12v on order. Also I am using the EtherRegen so it makes a bit more sense to run a server client set up. Link to comment
dminches Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 According to Emile, one of the significant contributors to the quality of the Extreme sound is that the music is stored locally. He ranked the sound quality based on music location as: Local > streaming (Qobuz/tidal) > NAS. I have never had my music on local drives due to the size of my library and the type of motherboard needed if one wants to use Optane drives. And then there is also the expense. Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7s, 4 M&K ST-150Ts, 1 VCC-5; Amplification: 2 Vandersteen M7-HPAs, CI Audio D200 MKII, Ayre V-6xe; Preamp: Doshi Audio Line Stage v3.0; Phono Pre: Doshi Audio Phono Pre; Analog: Wave Kinetics NVS with Durand Telos composite arm; SME 3012R arm, Clearaudio Goldfinger Statement v2; Reel to Reel: Technics RS-1500; Doshi Tape Pre-Amp; Studer A810, Studer A812, Tascam BR-20; Multi-channel: Bryston SP-3; Digital: Custom PC (Sean Jacobs DC4/Euphony/Stylus)> Lampizator Pacific Link to comment
Nenon Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just a small OCXO teaser. Also, please note the paper sticker on the motherboard that says 1201. This is the BIOS version. And this is the fourth AMD motherboard I get that is running an old BIOS, which does not work with the AMD Ryzen 7 3700X CPU. With such BIOS the server would not post. With the previous mini-ITX AMD motherboards, I had to go back to the store, buy an old CPU like the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G and install it just so the server can start and I can update the BIOS. This motherboard has BIOS flashback function. You can update the BIOS from a USB drive without CPU or memory installed. So much easier! motberg 1 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
seatrope Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 @Nenon the crosshair vii has bios flashback. No need for any cpu installed to flash to newest bios. I had to do it twice. Link to comment
seatrope Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 @Nenon I’m an idiot. Didn’t finish reading your post lol!! please give step by step clock mod instructions :)) Link to comment
Popular Post vhs Posted February 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 2:01 PM, Nenon said: Hi everyone! I am building a computer for someone else and decided to share what I am doing with everyone. Let me start with some of the high level requirements: One box solution to eliminate some of the clutter. Optimized for Streaming (Tidal / Qobuz). The best quality USB output. I came up with the following specs: Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming ITX changed to ASUS Z390-I ROG Strix Gaming Intel LGA 1151 mini ITX motherboard CPU: Intel Core i9-9900 changed to Intel Core i9-9900K RAM: 2 x 4GB Non-ECC Apacer RAM (Apacer D11.2318FS.004) changed to 2 x 4GB ECC Apacer RAM (D31.23185S.001) OS Drive: 32 GB Optane Chassis: 2 x Streacom FC9 USB Output: PinkFaun USB Bridge with ultraOCXO clock Network input: JCAT NET FEMTO Operating System: Euphony running Stylus, switchable to Roon Some other specs: 6-rails of DC power All wiring will be done with Mundorf silver/gold wire (and JSSG360 shielding where it makes sense) Isoacoustics Gaia feet will be used on both chassis Some but very little EMI absorbing material to be applied at strategic places. All connectors will be treated with Walker Audio Quantum Silver Contact Treatment with Nanocrystal Technology. Resonance controlling material will be applied on the chassis. Power Supply: Given the specs above, we came up with 6-rails - 3 for the ATX connector, 1 for the EPS connector, 1 for the PinkFaun USB card, and 1 for the JCAT NET card. He acquired a 4-rail Sean Jacobs power supply, which I customized for him. 3 rails used for the ATX connector and one rail for the PinkFaun USB card. The EPS connector will be powered by another 12V Sean Jacobs DC3 LPS he already has. The JCAT NET card will be powered by various spare linear power supplies he has, tbd which works best. There are two goals with the customization of the 4-rail LPS: 1. Shortest possible cable path from the double regulators to the components powered. 2. Good heat management to keep things cool. We decided to use two black Streacom FC9 chassis. One chassis would be hosting a big 400VA toroidal transformer, Schottky diodes for rectification, Mundorf caps, etc. The second chassis would be hosting the motherboard, CPU, RAM, etc. and some of the DC regulators. I decided to install the regulators for the ATX connector in the motherboard chassis. That would meet the first goal. For the second goal, I left the regulators for the PinkFaun USB bridge in power supply chassis. I calculated that the path from the regulators would be almost the same length as if they were in the motherboard chassis. But we have an available heatsink to use in the power supply, so I opted for the better heat management. This may resemble a little bit the power supply of the Innuos Statement described here - http://www.the-ear.net/how-to/power-supply-design-innuos-statement. It’s not a coincident, and some of the ideas were taken from there. It’s also good to mention that Sean Jacobs would not do a power supply like this. Due to his contract with Innuos, he is not doing ATX power supplies. The only way to build his power supply inside a computer is to go the DIY route. This server will look a little like the Innuos Statement. But to be honest, I am aiming higher than that. One can buy a Statement instead, but there are a few things I don’t like about the Statement - the low powered CPU does not sound as good as this configuration; the SSD drives are too noisy, and I don’t want to have any in my servers; Apacer RAM is a must; the wiring (silver/gold wires used for everything) cost $1,500 alone… if the Statement had the same wires and cables, it would probably cost $5K more just for that… that’s not including the amount of time, it takes to do all the JSSG360 shielding and every small detail. And those cables make a big difference. I’ve heard the Statement in a few occasions and liked what I heard. But I’ve never had one in my system to compare with a DIY server like this. Stay tuned. I am planning to post a lot of pictures and comments as I make progress. Great Post, Nenon! Sharing my build with you as shown in the pic below. 🙂 Nenon and Solstice380 1 1 dCS Vivaldi Upsampler - Siltech Double Crown PC, Tara Labs Zero Evo AES; dCS Vivaldi DAC - Siltech Double Crown PC - Tara Labs Zero Evo XLR; dCS Vivaldi Clock - Siltech Double Crown PC - Viard Platinum BNC; Mutec Ref10 SE-120 - Shunyata Sigma Digital PC - AR Cox Triple C BNC; Music Server - La Sound Olympia PC; Spectral DMC-30SS MKii - Crystal Ultimate Dream PC; Spectral DMC-400RS - Tiglon 2000A PC - AR RTP6 Abs. - Transparent Reference G5 spk cable; Rockport Atria MKi, Shunyata Triton V2 + Typhon - Sigma HC PC, Thixar SMD Ultimate Rack + CMS Platinum MKiii / Tripoint Troy Signature BLK https://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=124319&extra=page=1 Link to comment
ASRMichael Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 On 2/12/2020 at 7:31 PM, Nenon said: Just a small OCXO teaser. Also, please note the paper sticker on the motherboard that says 1201. This is the BIOS version. And this is the fourth AMD motherboard I get that is running an old BIOS, which does not work with the AMD Ryzen 7 3700X CPU. With such BIOS the server would not post. With the previous mini-ITX AMD motherboards, I had to go back to the store, buy an old CPU like the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G and install it just so the server can start and I can update the BIOS. This motherboard has BIOS flashback function. You can update the BIOS from a USB drive without CPU or memory installed. So much easier! Ultra clock? Link to comment
Nenon Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 11 hours ago, vhs said: Great Post, Nenon! Sharing my build with you as shown in the pic below. 🙂 Very interesting. Thank you for sharing. Can you share more details? What clock are you using? I see some external grounding (an external grounding box?)? What is the red board? A relay? Thank you. Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
Nenon Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 9 hours ago, ASRMichael said: Ultra clock? Yes, PinkFaun ultraOCXO. That's the best clock I could find on the market. If anyone knows anything better I can use, please let me know. Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
auricgoldfinger Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, Nenon said: Yes, PinkFaun ultraOCXO. That's the best clock I could find on the market. If anyone knows anything better I can use, please let me know. What about this one? https://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/c4-reference-low-jitter-clock-1548-p.asp Their signature model should be available in the next month or so. https://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/c5-signature-low-jitter-clock-4461-p.asp This is out of my realm, so apologies in advance if they won't work for your application. Link to comment
Nenon Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, auricgoldfinger said: What about this one? https://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/c4-reference-low-jitter-clock-1548-p.asp Their signature model should be available in the next month or so. https://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/c5-signature-low-jitter-clock-4461-p.asp This is out of my realm, so apologies in advance if they won't work for your application. Thank you. Never tried them, but I have been following the development of the C5 and waiting to be released. Those don't look like OCXO clocks, but that does not mean they are bad. A well implemented TCXO clock could be a lot better than a bad implemented OCXO clock. My guess is their clock has worse specs than the PinkFaun ultraOCXO, but that does not mean much. The reality is how I will implement the clock would make a bigger impact than how good the clock is. I may get the best clock available, and if I feed it with bad power and use long wires, it may be even inferior to the crappy oscillator my motherboard uses, with overall worse result regardless of how much I have spent. But I am aiming to use the best clock I can and implement it to the best of my abilities. Unless the clock is on the PCB right next to the chip, it's always a compromise. auricgoldfinger 1 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
ASRMichael Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Nenon said: Yes, PinkFaun ultraOCXO. That's the best clock I could find on the market. If anyone knows anything better I can use, please let me know. Even if someone told their was a better clock, not sure I would want it! Why? Pinkfaun clock usb bridge with ultra clock sounds so good, I don’t see the point! Simple as! Link to comment
adamaley Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Which Pink Faun unltraOCXO clockspeed are folks selecting? Link to comment
Nenon Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, adamaley said: Which Pink Faun unltraOCXO clockspeed are folks selecting? It depends on the application. The main clock on my AMD motherboard is 25MHz. It's 24MHz on my Intel motherboard. My I2S bridge uses the 24.576 MHz. The USB bridge uses a 20 MHz clock. beautiful music 1 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
adamaley Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I see. So once purchased and installed, you're pretty much stuck with that particular motherboard or one of the same clock speed. Thanks for the heads-up. Nenon 1 Link to comment
Popular Post vhs Posted February 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2020 13 hours ago, Nenon said: Very interesting. Thank you for sharing. Can you share more details? What clock are you using? I see some external grounding (an external grounding box?)? What is the red board? A relay? Thank you. The clock is Connor Winfield DOCSC022F 24MHz. http://www.conwin.com/datasheets/cx/cx264.pdf Roon Server is grounded to Telos GNR 3.1mini. https://telos-audio.com.tw/grounding-noise-reducer-mini/ The red board is a relay which acts a power-up timer to warm up the clock. My build: Hardware: MB: MSI z390m Gaming Edge AC CPU: i7-8700 (3.2GHZ) Ram: Corsair DOMINATOR® PLATINUM 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2400MHz C10 Memory Kit Case: Streacom FC9 Alpha Fanless Chassis SSD (OS): Samsung 970 Evo Plus (500G) HDD (Music File): WD Ultrastar DC HC530 (14T) SATA Cable: Pachanko "Aphelion" SATA SATA PCIE Card: IOCrest Marvell 9235 - direct to CPU NIC: Jcat Net Femto (Powered by Full ATX LPS) - direct to CPU Lan Cable (Roon Server to Uptone eR): Supra Cat8 (13m) w/Telegartner Cat8.1 RJ45 Lan Cable (Uptone eR to dCS Vivaldi Upsampelr): Pachanko Ethernet "Aphelion (1.5m) w/Telegartner Cat8.1 RJ45 LPS: Uptone JS-2 Vibration Control: Thixar Silence, Stillpoints UltraSS Power Cable: Shunyata Alpha HC Hook-up wire: NEOTECH 18 AWG UP-OCC (Teflon) Software: OS: WS2019 Datacenter w/ AO3 custom Roon Shell and Process Lasso Music Software: Roon Server Tuning : 1. BIOS: Hyper-Threading = ON 2. BIOS: Disable all other features of CPU and unnecessary components 3. WS2019: Disable write-caching for SSD and HDD. 4. WS2019: Network bridge in WS2019 (i.e., Roon Server direct connect to dCS Upsampler via a 13m long Supra Cat8 lan cable) 5. WS2019: Disable 35 numbers of Windows Services 6. Process Lasso: Assign CPU0-3 for OS / CPU4-11 for Roon 7. Process Lasso: Turn off Process Lasso Engine Disable the following Windows Services in WS2019 Datacenter (AO Roon Shell): 1. Themes 2. Print Spooler 3. Windows Font Cache Service 4. Connected User Experience and Telemetry 5. Intel HD Graphics Control Service 6. Intel Push Notifications System Service 7. Program Compatibility Assistant Service 8. Intel Dynamic Application Loader Host Interface Service 9. IP Helper 10. Network List Service 11. Network Connectivity Assistant 12. Network Connection (Manual) 13. Network Connection Broker 14. Connected Devices Platform Service 15. TCP/IP Netbois Helper 16. IPsec Policy Agent 17. COM+Event System 18. System Event Notification Service 19. CRYPTOGRAPHIC Service 20. Web Account Manager 21. Windows Audio 22. Windows Audio Endpoint Builder 23. Human Interface Device Service 24. Quality Windows Audio Video Experience 25. Windows Connections Manager 26. Portable Device Enumerator Service 27. Windows Update 28. Windows Modules Installer 29. IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules 30. Server 31. Shell Hardware Detection 32. Security Accounts Manager CPU Voltage Tuning: CPU Core Voltage = 0.95v CPU GT Voltage = 0.6v CPU SA Voltage = Auto CPU IO Voltage = Auto CPU PLL OC Voltage = 1.2v CPU ST PLL Voltage = 0.95v Dram Voltage = 1.35V PCH Voltage = Auto Nenon, auricgoldfinger, motberg and 5 others 2 4 2 dCS Vivaldi Upsampler - Siltech Double Crown PC, Tara Labs Zero Evo AES; dCS Vivaldi DAC - Siltech Double Crown PC - Tara Labs Zero Evo XLR; dCS Vivaldi Clock - Siltech Double Crown PC - Viard Platinum BNC; Mutec Ref10 SE-120 - Shunyata Sigma Digital PC - AR Cox Triple C BNC; Music Server - La Sound Olympia PC; Spectral DMC-30SS MKii - Crystal Ultimate Dream PC; Spectral DMC-400RS - Tiglon 2000A PC - AR RTP6 Abs. - Transparent Reference G5 spk cable; Rockport Atria MKi, Shunyata Triton V2 + Typhon - Sigma HC PC, Thixar SMD Ultimate Rack + CMS Platinum MKiii / Tripoint Troy Signature BLK https://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=124319&extra=page=1 Link to comment
Solstice380 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 General question about Samsung M.2 drives for those who might have information about the difference between the 970 EVO (MLC NAND) and 970 EVO+ (V-NAND). Is it the speed, reliability, lifetime, or...? Thanks! I have an i9-9900KS arriving early next week. I’ll be using the ROG RTX2080 that’s in my current build. I’ll be hitting the closest Micro Center to fill out my parts list soon. https://audiophilestyle.com/profile/21384-solstice380/?tab=field_core_pfield_3 Link to comment
vhs Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 48 minutes ago, Solstice380 said: General question about Samsung M.2 drives for those who might have information about the difference between the 970 EVO (MLC NAND) and 970 EVO+ (V-NAND). Is it the speed, reliability, lifetime, or...? Thanks! I have an i9-9900KS arriving early next week. I’ll be using the ROG RTX2080 that’s in my current build. I’ll be hitting the closest Micro Center to fill out my parts list soon. 970 Evo: https://s3.ap-northeast-2.amazonaws.com/global.semi.static/Samsung_NVMe_SSD_970_EVO_Data_Sheet_Rev.1.0.pdf 970 Evo Plus: https://s3.ap-northeast-2.amazonaws.com/global.semi.static/Samsung_NVMe_SSD_970_EVO_Plus_Data_Sheet_Rev-2-0.pdf https://www.anandtech.com/show/13761/the-samsung-970-evo-plus-ssd-review Quote: "The new generation of 3D NAND upgrades the interface between the controller and NAND to Toggle-mode DDR 4.0, increasing the interface speed from 800Mbps to 1400Mbps while reducing the voltage from 1.8V to 1.2V." End Quote dCS Vivaldi Upsampler - Siltech Double Crown PC, Tara Labs Zero Evo AES; dCS Vivaldi DAC - Siltech Double Crown PC - Tara Labs Zero Evo XLR; dCS Vivaldi Clock - Siltech Double Crown PC - Viard Platinum BNC; Mutec Ref10 SE-120 - Shunyata Sigma Digital PC - AR Cox Triple C BNC; Music Server - La Sound Olympia PC; Spectral DMC-30SS MKii - Crystal Ultimate Dream PC; Spectral DMC-400RS - Tiglon 2000A PC - AR RTP6 Abs. - Transparent Reference G5 spk cable; Rockport Atria MKi, Shunyata Triton V2 + Typhon - Sigma HC PC, Thixar SMD Ultimate Rack + CMS Platinum MKiii / Tripoint Troy Signature BLK https://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=124319&extra=page=1 Link to comment
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