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Have you considered the new Xeon W (workstation) processors for the LGA 1200?
For example, the W-1290 has 10 cores, TDP 80W and LGA 1200 is compatible with hdplex chassiss without modifications...
I originally thought about the E-2236 (LGA 1151), but now I'm in doubt.
Previously, there was a link to a post from Emile, where he preferred 10 core Xeons, but it was a different Xeon line.
So I don't know if it is possible to generalize to the number of cores and repeat the spell in this case as well.

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@dctomIt will of course depend on what you are using it for. I have an i9-10900K in one currently. I would not dare do heavy graphics or computations that would drive it to capacity. I will be looking for a better cooling solution if I end up using it as a general purpose design.

Playing music files (JRiver, AL OS in 16GB RAM) the cores are hardly working and the cpu remains quite cool. However I have seen  a 12A current spike when graphics are flashed on the screen.  I dont think the HD5 passive cooling is going to deal with this effectively in continuos duty.

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FYI - Marcin just spilled the beans

 

http://jplay.eu/forum/index.php?/topic/3021-new-audiophile-build/#entry52870

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If you don't want any switching regulators, you will have to wait for JCAT streamer/server... ;)

 

USBridge Sig was the very first but it's only good for Compute Module 3 Lite

 

https://allo.com/sparky/usbridge-signature-pcb.html

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To lower the noise of the USB, we had to lower noise on EACH rail. In total, USBridge Sig uses more than 30 LDOs. Even the SD card power rail has a dedicated LDO. There are zero switching elements on board.

 

At last we'll have something with x86 instead of ARM, could that actually meet / beat ASUS WS C621E SAGE or what?

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6 hours ago, seeteeyou said:

USBridge Sig was the very first but it's only good for Compute Module 3 Lite

 

Don't get too excited, it was alright "for its price point" but easily beaten by other ARM streamers with quite some ease.  

 

6 hours ago, seeteeyou said:

At last we'll have something with x86 instead of ARM, could that actually meet / beat ASUS WS C621E SAGE or what?

 

It's not all about power... there's something going on with modern x86 architectures that no ARM device to date I've heard can match whatsoever.  And I was for quite a while feeding the x86 system with a "dirty" SMPS (but USB card powered externally) and it was still night/day.

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LOL, you just made a certain claim about X without bothering to specify what you actually did.

 

How about stating what kinda apples-to-apples comparison was done? Volume matching? Same distro? Same kernel? Same software player on the client / server side? Same network tweaks? Same PSU with the same voltage? Same cables? Same input on the same DAC?

 

https://community.roonlabs.com/t/ropiee-on-allo-usbridge-signature/79652/27

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You‘ll enjoy the USBridge Sig! I‘ve got mine, along with the Shanti LPS. The combo beats my Aurender N100H hands down (this unit costs 3,000 €!)! In my system, Roon sounds very sweet with this unit!

 

https://community.roonlabs.com/t/ropiee-on-allo-usbridge-signature/79652/48

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I can confirm Paul_Jeno’s comment. I also have the USBridge Sig + LPS with a Gustard U16 DDC. It now replaces a $4k streamer… so much so I have put these with more parts and built a streamer around it inside a slick ali case with screen as a single unit. Looking at a OXCO clock and this will play with the big brands.

 

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/59219-new-dd-converters-from-denafrips/page/6/?tab=comments#comment-1071704

On 8/3/2020 at 4:16 AM, richard_crl032 said:

Just listened to the allo's usb bridge signature via the gaia and T+ and compared the Antipodes directly via the T+  with various same tracks on both. 

 

Without the gaia for both allo's and Antipodes to the T+ that I am very familiar with, it was like subjectively 60-70% for the allo's if Antipodes is at 90% ....

 

With the gaia for allo's, it gets to 75-80% of the Antipodes which is quite impressive and nice as a backup server since I have the gaia but it also tells me just how nice the Antipodes is .. crisp, clear and extended in comparison.

 


 

FWIW running a (WAY) stripped-down OS with the right CPU affinity etc. turned out to make a HUGE difference

 

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30376-a-novel-way-to-massively-improve-the-sq-of-computer-audio-streaming/page/693/?tab=comments#comment-1073768

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/58164-building-a-diy-music-server/page/28/?tab=comments#comment-1077902

 

IMHO Allo could only ship their products with a distro that's relatively easy to support, meanwhile plenty of tweaks are available for ARM out there and quite a few examples could be found below

 

http://albumplayer.ru/linux/english.html

https://www.symphonic-mpd.com/forum/

https://github.com/thanhtam-h/rpi4-xeno3

https://www.patreon.com/posts/snakeoil-os-33602597

http://www.headphoneclub.com/thread-738525-1-1.html

http://www.erji.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2192344

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1j9c6utgwrStLYD6xy5Yati63RcMlMp8S

https://vnav.vn/threads/raspberry-pi-music-server.38335/page-184#post-2600011

https://github.com/sam0402/pcp-44.1KHz/blob/master/xenomai3/pcp-44100Hz_xe.patch

https://www.my-hiend.com/vbb/showthread.php?13157-piCorePlayer6-1-0-Xenomai-44-1-48KHz雙機入門簡易安裝教學&p=242868#post242868

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27 minutes ago, seeteeyou said:
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You‘ll enjoy the USBridge Sig! I‘ve got mine, along with the Shanti LPS. The combo beats my Aurender N100H hands down (this unit costs 3,000 €!)! In my system, Roon sounds very sweet with this unit!

 

 

https://darko.audio/2015/09/aurender-n100h-music-serverstreamer-review/

 

The Aurender is a 2015 unit.  2015 !  Ofcourse it beats the Aurender.... I'd be sad if a new 2019 design didnt.

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5 hours ago, seeteeyou said:

"Word first class build LPSU" sounded very so promising to me, LOL

 

FWIW Pachanko didn't seem to have a solid track record according to multiple customers

 

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/26411-pachanko-sata-cable/page/6/#comments

 

If they weren't even able to ship their cables without significant delays, what are we supposed to expect for a megabuck PSU then?

 

Unless they're ordering their Duelund CAST Silver in bulk just like what Taiko Audio did, where would they find a reputable + reliable source with reasonable pricing?

 

https://www.facebook.com/duelundcoherentaudio/posts/3707228172640409

https://www.facebook.com/duelundcoherentaudio/posts/3752379124791980

 

They didn't really mention whether it's the cheapest one @ 0.1uF or the others, Hifi Collective could hardly keep that particular one in stock

 

https://www.hificollective.co.uk/catalog/-c-61_68_329_338.html

 

Right now I don't even see 0.1uF here while only 1 outta 3 choices could be added to their shopping cart despite the status shown

 

https://www.partsconnexion.com/duelund-cast-pio-silver-electronic-film-capacitors-630vdc.html

 

Maybe they're actually stocking up on 0.1uF for real, who knows? Though it's just kinda funny to see Audio Note on their product page while they're claiming that's meant to be Duelund CAST Silver

 

https://www.pachankostudio.com/product-page/pachanko-audiophile-masterpiece-edition-highend-lpsu

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Could they REALLY find the the right source for Duelund or not?

 

And then I certainly hope that 4N silver stuff wouldn't come from Tao Bao before they're treated cryogenically, not sure if there were too many O-core transformers with 4N silver out there but Kenneth Lau got them from Simon Tuned

 

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=534199855459

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=534325078734

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=534389904041

 

Maybe they're also sharing the same source or something?

 

https://kitsunehifi.com/product/kitsune-hifi-800w-occ-isolation-transformer/

 

Neotech 7N Cryo Silver and Duelund 5N Cryo Silver could also be found on Tao Bao easily

 

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=15985627183

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=36010441073

 

"Super low noise linear regulator boards" could mean so many things. LT3045? Single / double-regulated? What kinda (continuous / transient) current could each 19V / 5V rail provide?

 

Just asking for so much money without giving us some basic details, especially their (realistic) lead time in the middle of a global pandemic that ain't going away soon.

 

I dunno man, 3 rails of DC4 just happened to cost £4400 and that's like quite a bit less than €5000 these days. Which one is a (much) safer bet?

 

Thanks for your thoughts and detailed analysis!  Terrific as usual.

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, auricgoldfinger said:

 

Having been burned by Adrian at TLS, I was naturally skeptical.  @seeteeyou confirmed my intuition to stay away.

 

Reading that thread I thought all issues were sorted out....but anyways, my comment was not for anyone to go ahead and buy it. I was merely commenting on the chassis which no one seems to offer. Pretty unique in that respect, regardless of what anyone claims.

 

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12 minutes ago, Dev said:

 

Reading that thread I thought all issues were sorted out....but anyways, my comment was not for anyone to go ahead and buy it. I was merely commenting on the chassis which no one seems to offer. Pretty unique in that respect, regardless of what anyone claims.

 

 

I didn't take your post as a recommendation. 🙂

 

 

 

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