Popular Post mansr Posted December 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: so... can stereo do height??? Regular XY stereo with a pair of cardioid microphones? No. That's trivially obvious for symmetry reasons. There may occasionally be an illusion of height, but this is merely an interpretation likely based on pitch (higher pitched sounds are often perceived as emanating higher up) and need not match the actual location of sound sources during the recording. A recording with a dummy head could possibly pull it off to some extent, but I have personally never heard a convincing example. semente, tmtomh and Ralf11 2 1 Link to comment
mansr Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jud said: When you see a choir performing live for Beethoven's Ninth, are all choir members standing on the floor? No, but when I play a recording, I can't see the performers. semente 1 Link to comment
mansr Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, Jud said: Looks interesting. On a slightly different note, I was listening to a Roger Waters track last night, and some of the music sounded as if it was coming from behind me to the right. I don't have a solid wall behind me (a kitchen island about 10 feet back, kitchen cabinets and counters about 10 feet further back), and only the two stereo speakers. That's QSound processing. sandyk 1 Link to comment
mansr Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 48 minutes ago, SJK said: Are you saying that a developed soundstage will only have a horizontal component? I would expect that a soundstage would have three dimensions. I'm saying that stereo recording doesn't capture height information, and neither does stereo playback reproduce it. What you or anyone else expects is neither here nor there. semente 1 Link to comment
mansr Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, semente said: I was referring to classical music. Never watched Pink Floyd live but those gigs I went to had all sound coming from the sides of the stage, perhaps from the center as well in football stadiums, I can't recall. Pink Floyd did put speakers in unusual locations around the venues, or so I've read. Some of their albums are available in surround mixes, which IMO works well. I guess it's no accident that Roger Waters later dabbled with QSound. Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted December 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jud said: It is correct that height *information* is not recorded or reproduced. Nevertheless, it's well known that a recording can provide an *impression* of height (and depth). See https://theproaudiofiles.com/width-height-depth-in-a-mix/ The impression of height, you may (correctly) say, is a false one, a kind of distortion. That's true. Why then should anyone have an objection to including correct, accurate height information in recordings? I'm not objecting to the recording and reproduction of height information. However, with currently available methods, I do not find the expense and inconvenience justified. Since a simple left-right spread covers the vast majority of music (as performed), I'd rather spend my money on a single pair of good speakers than a dozen of lesser quality. Even if Pink Floyd benefits from surround sound. If speakers could be made smaller and cheaper without sacrificing sound quality, I might prioritise differently. Then again: semente and sandyk 1 1 Link to comment
mansr Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, SJK said: Then I suppose it’s all down to the hardware used for playback. Does a reflective ceiling count as hardware? Link to comment
mansr Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, sandyk said: That is not correct, as can be seen on the bottom left of the front cover of the attached from Chesky Records I suspect that they know far more about Binaural, and recording in general, than the vast majority of members here. I'm disappointed with the Chesky binaural recordings. Their earlier method gave better results. Link to comment
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