Popular Post pkane2001 Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: When I dread reading my own AS emails in the morning and feel a sense of ease reading the Album of the Evening notifications in my inbox, things have gone off the rails. I know that if I'm fed up with arguments and incivility, the members of the community must be well beyond this. Something must change. Over the last week or so, I've exchanged emails with several members of the AS community about how to curtail undesirable discussions. The feedback has been excellent and from all sides of the issue. With this post, I'm asking for feedback from the community about proposed rule / feature changes to the site. The goal of these changes is to increase people's enjoyment of this wonderful HiFi hobby. To do this the changes should curtail incivility, encourage lurkers to post, stop "thread-crapping", and separate discussions that generate unwanted comments and arguments. I wish I could just ask everyone to be a decent human being, but that just doesn't seem to work. We all have different definitions of decency. I want to stop subjective threads from receiving unwanted comments. I want to stop objective threads from receiving unwanted comments. I want to encourage people to post both types of comments in threads where this is wanted. I want to stop posts that are made for the sport of online arguing. Here are some proposals. Please provide feedback. 1. Be polite. I could literally stop here and 99% of the people on AS would have no problem following the rule. 2. Avoid defamatory statements, personal attacks, name-calling, insults, trolling, thread crapping, and thread-derailing topics. It's often not what you say, but how you say it. 3a. If what you want to post includes words/phrases like "placebo," "expectation bias," "ABX," "blind testing," "snake oil" etc., please post it in the XXXXXXXXXXXX forum (a to-be created sub-forum). 3b. If there's an existing forum thread in which you'd like to discuss that mentioned above in 3a, you must start your own thread about the subject in forum XXXXXXXXXXXX. Optionally you can post a link to your newly started thread, in the existing thread where your comments aren't allowed. This insures all points of view have space here on Audiophile Style. Separating these topics also enables more focused discussions and enables members of the community to read each point of view if they so chose. The above is probably the most controversial proposed rule change. It presupposed all threads are subjective, given our overwhelming majority of subjective leaning members. This proposed rule is used on Head-Fi, but may need massaging here on AS. 4. A daily cap on the number of posts by each member. 5. Make it clearer that OPs can have moderation rights to their threads. This includes removing posts and asking other members to stop posting in the threads. 6. Enable the site feature that blocks members from specific threads. This is only a reactive method and would require a PM to the moderator. 7. Bring back the down vote feature for comments. 8. Anonymize the up/down vote feature. This will resolve the sophomoric issue we've had in the past of down vote retaliation. 9. Consequences for not following the rules will include bans from topics, temporary and permanent bans from the site. Again, these are proposals. All rules / features have unintended consequences. Please provide feedback and any other proposals you see fit. I suggested this to you before, Chris, but my proposal is a combination of (5) and (9): Allow the OP not to just delete or edit posts, but also to ban members from their threads. If the OP really is a moderator for the thread, they should have this option. Make it easy and obvious for the OP to see this option for each post in their thread. kennyb123, wgscott, 89reksal and 5 others 4 1 2 1 -Paul DeltaWave, DISTORT, Earful, PKHarmonic, new: Multitone Analyzer Link to comment
Popular Post pkane2001 Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, beetlemania said: I would draw the line at editing (this could twist the poster's intention), but I like the option for the OP to wholly delete posts and ban specific members from that specific thread. Right. OP editing rights, I think, are limited to editing their own posts and not everyone else's. As it should be. Teresa, The Computer Audiophile, beetlemania and 2 others 4 1 -Paul DeltaWave, DISTORT, Earful, PKHarmonic, new: Multitone Analyzer Link to comment
Popular Post pkane2001 Posted December 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I also received a message about enabling a reaction (that’s the official name of the upvote, like, etc... button) so people can mark comments are aren’t civil or comments that are undesirable in a thread. Just adding this to the proposals. These things don't work. The Disagree button is often used to punish people rather than actually expressing real disagreement, IME. Marking comments as undesirable will be similarly abused, if not more. esldude, mansr, STC and 1 other 4 -Paul DeltaWave, DISTORT, Earful, PKHarmonic, new: Multitone Analyzer Link to comment
Popular Post pkane2001 Posted December 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jud said: Hmm, time to unfollow this thread for a while. I like Bill's idea to do the experiment, recognizing it would take time and energy to do the moderation on the more regulated forum(s). But that's part of the experiment, too - is such time, energy and wisdom available? I disagree. I view this proposal as a trial separation. Most likely this will result in a divorce, and that's not an outcome I'm looking forward to. marce, esldude, sandyk and 1 other 2 1 1 -Paul DeltaWave, DISTORT, Earful, PKHarmonic, new: Multitone Analyzer Link to comment
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