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I could mention an even greater horror 😝, as a playback setup, that I fooled around with for a bit, that used CDs a couple of years ago - an Aldi Blu-Ray player as transport, HDMI to an Aldi LCD TV, and then through the rough speakers below the screen; this was prior to them making sure you can't hear anything, by pointing the speakers in the wrong direction, of course ... but I have sympathy for ST, and don't want to give him more grief than he can bear 😆.


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3 hours ago, STC said:


And who is giving out the accreditation to be qualified as audiophiles?  I need one badly. 

 

Nostalgia rather than specs seems to dominate: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Audio-Video-Turntables/zgbs/electronics/3003611


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3 hours ago, kumakuma said:

Even an entry-level DAC connected with whatever USB cable you've got laying around is going to sound better than almost every CD player out there.  

 

 

Really??

 

I used  Cal Audio for decades, then switched to the Oppo 205 2 years ago.....

 

They both seem as good as a good DAC, maybe not an xlnt DAC


"The overwhelming majority [of audiophiles] have very little knowledge, if any, about the most basic principles and operating characteristics of audio equipment. They often base their purchasing decisions on hearsay, and the preaching of media sages. Unfortunately, because of commercial considerations, much information is rooted in increasing revenue, not in assisting the audiophile. It seems as if the only requirements for becoming an "authority" in the world of audio is a keyboard."

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37 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

Really??

 

I used  Cal Audio for decades, then switched to the Oppo 205 2 years ago.....

 

They both seem as good as a good DAC, maybe not an xlnt DAC

 

It is what I have observed so it must be true. 👺


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11 hours ago, STC said:


And who is giving out the accreditation to be qualified as audiophiles?  I need one badly. 

 

I know a few under 44s that buy vinyl. Two of them collect vinyl but don't even own a turntable (they stream free Spotify), another uses one of those plastic briefcase turntables with a single wideband driver, one bought a malfunctioning hi-fi cabinet from the early 60s at a charity store...


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On 12/3/2019 at 1:25 PM, semente said:

 

A speaker which requires a notch filter to sound flat but doesn't have one will not sound like a flat speaker.

 

How can you tell that it doesn't sound flat (through listening)?

You have to compare it with other speakers and use recordings that are meant to sound realistic.

Ideally you measure.

 

I don’t want my speakers to sound flat 😉. They should measure flat between 20 and 20 KHz thought.  

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12 hours ago, kumakuma said:

 

It is what I have observed so it must be true. 👺

 

I'm curious what the equip. setup was for your observation?

 

were they budget CD players for example?


"The overwhelming majority [of audiophiles] have very little knowledge, if any, about the most basic principles and operating characteristics of audio equipment. They often base their purchasing decisions on hearsay, and the preaching of media sages. Unfortunately, because of commercial considerations, much information is rooted in increasing revenue, not in assisting the audiophile. It seems as if the only requirements for becoming an "authority" in the world of audio is a keyboard."

-- Bruce Rozenblit of Transcendent Sound

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9 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

I'm curious what the equip. setup was for your observation?

 

were they budget CD players for example?

 

Now you're just ruining my joke... 


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well, you caught me - some forums require sarcasm to be in green font

 

Hey BTW, are you sure the dynamics of the power supply wasn't the source of your problem???


"The overwhelming majority [of audiophiles] have very little knowledge, if any, about the most basic principles and operating characteristics of audio equipment. They often base their purchasing decisions on hearsay, and the preaching of media sages. Unfortunately, because of commercial considerations, much information is rooted in increasing revenue, not in assisting the audiophile. It seems as if the only requirements for becoming an "authority" in the world of audio is a keyboard."

-- Bruce Rozenblit of Transcendent Sound

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3 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

well, you caught me - some forums require sarcasm to be in green font

 

I used the Tengu emoji. 👺

 

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The goblin emoji depicts a tengu, or an arrogant character from Japanese folklore. People in the West commonly use it, though, to suggest trolling, evil, anger, mischief, and naughtiness

 

 


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6 hours ago, Summit said:

Sorry, but it was obviously a flat reply 😏.

 

Does that man you have a step down on me? :)


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1 hour ago, Allan F said:

 

Does that man you have a step down on me? :)

 

I don’t know what you want to say by your last post. I guess it is something funny so I say yes 😎.

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1 hour ago, Summit said:

I don’t know what you want to say by your last post. I guess it is something funny so I say yes 😎.

Simply a play on sharp=musical step up and flat=musical step down. :)


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I'll help a little: 

 

9 hours ago, Allan F said:

Does that man you have a step down on me? :)

 

Depends on his size. And yours of course.


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