CPU Load and Sound Quality

[mansr]

15 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

I suspect that you'll disagree but I believe that the differences would need to be extremely small for this kind of expectation bias to kick in.

I guess that  means he agrees.

[sandyk]

15 minutes ago, firedog said:

Not so much. There's a lot of suggestion causing groupthink in audio. That's a lot of what the audio press does. It conditions you to hear certain things, so you tend to hear them. None of that rises to level of proof, or even to what in science would be considered a legit "observation". So lots of people saying they hear something proves zip on it's own. Especially when you can find lots of other people who don't hear that same audio phenomenon.

 

Just b/c lots of people say MQA sounds amazing and revolutionary doesn't mean it does....

While  I agree with what you are saying here, Technical training and the use of Textbooks will do the exact same conditioning  as the Audio press may do for some people.

 Yes, MQA is shit, and is not needed or wanted by consumers in general,  and is only designed to swell the bank balance of it's inventor and his Industry supporters . Unfortunately, most consumers will never get to hear the original high res versions to realise this .

[sandyk]

1 minute ago, mansr said:

I guess that  means he agrees.

  Extremely small differences to those with average equipment,  can often be very obvious, even annoying in some cases,  to those using more revealing equipment.

[Albrecht]

9 minutes ago, firedog said:

Not so much. There's a lot of suggestion causing groupthink in audio. That's a lot of what the audio press does. It conditions you to hear certain things, so you tend to hear them. None of that rises to level of proof, or even to what in science would be considered a legit "observation". So lots of people saying they hear something proves zip on it's own. Especially when you can find lots of other people who don't hear that same audio phenomenon.

 

Just b/c lots of people say MQA sounds amazing and revolutionary doesn't mean it does....

Well, - your observational statement may be true as far as the "audio press" (there isn't really an audio press), - especially as I believe that you are referring to in the online sites like Six Moons, Soundstage, & print like What HiFi, Stereophile, Absolute Sound etc. Yes, - there is bandwagon jumping, - like other art-crafts reviews, - like movies.

 

That's an entirely different experience than evaluating equipment and room treatments in playing back a recording. Meaning, - one does not hear the results of group-think when conducting BETTER tests and evaluations. There are many reasons why Ed Meitner's DACs are indeed better than many others, - and NONE of it has to do with groupthink as the test of time is in direct contradiction to the fad of groupthink.

 

Your example of MQA is almost spot on. (And, I do say almost as in some cases, - MQA DOES sound better. In that, if you compare MQA on a $70K system, - it's going to sound better than a Sharp boom-box. There will always be a misapplication of components). MQA can sound "better" or "worse" depending on the context.

 

" So lots of people saying they hear something proves zip on it's own."

Do you think that i was saying that? If so, - that would be a straw man. As thorough, listening comparisons, measurements, internal components/parts evaluations, design topology, are all parts of this evaluation process. (Blind and Sighted: in addition to evidence gathering in evaluating products in many different contexts, - all play a part in the gathering of evidence and knowledge that has formed a relative consensus).

 

The goal is not whether any particular DAC has the lowest jitter, (even though that can certainly help), the goal is whether that DAC makes the recording & listening experience "sound good" according to the person who likes listening to the recording(s). You can speculate about it or you can actually test (listen) to it....

 

Yes, there is group-think and bandwagon jumping and fads, - but those don't last for long, and the cream gets to the top and fads that don't actually perform better, go away pretty fast....look at the colossal failure of MQA.

[Ralf11]

2 hours ago, sandyk said:

 

Just because you have great speakers does NOT mean that the quality of the source material or the amplification does not matter.

 You haven't mentioned either how your CDs are ripped. It does make a huge difference as others have reported and verified.

 

 

Let's not further pollute this thread with the idiotic bad ripping crap.

[Ralf11]

1 hour ago, Albrecht said:

Uh..you have made an incorrect assumption about my person

 

You've identified yourself as a "Knowledgeable Listener" just above - one who does not need to consider actual science on perception when listening to audio systems.

 

This shows that you are not knowledgeable.

[sandyk]

8 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

Let's not further pollute this thread with the idiotic bad ripping crap.

 Unfortunately for you , your mishmash of gear is not letting you hear what your system should be capable of hearing and SEEING  what should be obvious to most people. Just keep throwing more money at it Sunshine.

[Ralf11]

Just now, sandyk said:

 Unfortunately for you , your mishmash of gear is not letting you hear what your system should be capable of hearing and SEEING

 what should be obvious to most people. Just keep throwing more money at it Sunshine.

 

Go post on my Improve My System thread.

 

Your attempts to make up facts are bad enough without crapping on people's systems.... especially poorly defined glib generalities.

[sandyk]

3 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

Go post on my Improve My System thread.

 Why ?

 So you can remove all the posts from me that you don't like ?

[STC]

2 hours ago, sandyk said:

He ripped them to his HDD for the purpose of seamless switching between tracks .

Alex, since you believe what you believe, may I ask whether have you considered that the storage in HDD could be on a different platter and that contributed to the difference?

 

Just asking.   

[mansr]

On 11/26/2019 at 12:55 AM, sandyk said:

This thread has become rather nasty, and I will be taking no further part in it.

One full week and 16 pages later, why are you still here? I'm starting to think you might not be trustworthy.

[sandyk]

1 minute ago, mansr said:

One full week and 16 pages later, why are you still here? I'm starting to think you might not be trustworthy.

 

Perhaps because I refuse to be bullied by the likes of a closed minded Troll,( by your own admission) , like  you ?

[kumakuma]

1 minute ago, sandyk said:

 

Perhaps because I refuse to be bullied by the likes of a closed minded Troll,( by your own admission) , like  you ?

 

What about the likes of open minded Trolls?

[sandyk]

9 minutes ago, STC said:

Alex, since you believe what you believe, may I ask whether have you considered that the storage in HDD could be on a different platter and that contributed to the difference?

 

Just asking.   

Almost all storage mediums sound a little different, including as some members have reported recently, even the types of RAM used.

 I will leave it at that on this thread .

[PeterSt]

1 minute ago, sandyk said:

I will leave it at that on this thread .

 

Sure ?

[sandyk]

1 minute ago, PeterSt said:

 

Sure ?

 Peter

 It's not worth the trouble posting anything like this until past bedtime for the resident naysayers , where it would at least remain in view for a little longer instead of being pushed back out of view by several pages from the hostile reactions of the usual Anti  Subjective mob.

 

Why do you bother posting here ?

 

[PeterSt]

14 minutes ago, STC said:

may I ask whether have you considered that the storage in HDD could be on a different platter and that contributed to the difference?

 

Make several partitions/volumes on the disk, span those volumes, apply some special RAID and the lot is everywhere.

You now can be assured that parts of your songs sound the best.

The additional head movements nicely smears-in some noise, as long as you don't cache too much to 1866 special low voltage memory at the inner side, left of the CPU (but utilize the six lanes).

Putting the disk upside down generally does not matter, and putting it sideways eliminates the effect all together. In any event apply a 12V ultra low ripple, high transient PSU at at least 2 meters distance.

Put your chair on an anti static mat to protect from ESD, especially when you are smoking (chain smokers are OK with this anyway).

[Ralf11]

I'm a Subjectivist and completely disagree, Sandman.

[PeterSt]

2 minutes ago, sandyk said:

Why do you bother posting here ?

 

Now you know.

[PeterSt]

1 minute ago, Ralf11 said:

I'm a Subjectivist and completely disagree, Sandman.

 

wait wait wait ... with what ?

[Ralf11]

Just now, PeterSt said:

 

wait wait wait ... with what ?

 

with ' It's not worth the trouble posting anything like this until past bedtime for the resident naysayers , where it would at least remain in view for a little longer instead of being pushed back out of view by several pages from the hostile reactions of the usual Anti  Subjective mob.'

[PeterSt]

 

4 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

The overwhelming majority [of audiophiles] have very little knowledge

 

Hey, this shouldn't be drawn out of context.

 

[Albrecht]

40 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

You've identified yourself as a "Knowledgeable Listener" just above - one who does not need to consider actual science on perception when listening to audio systems.

 

This shows that you are not knowledgeable.

It is clear that you have little to no understanding of the principles, nor the definition, of what scientific investigation means or is...

 

"You've identified yourself as a "Knowledgeable Listener" just above"

 

not true

 

""This shows that you are not knowledgeable."

not a logical deduction, -

 

AND, - a little training in Science, Reason, Logic, and the fallacies would help you not only with your ability to produce cogent arguments, - but also help you to acquire knowledge based on evidentiary principles (and not wild hearsay) and appeals to an (alleged) authority figure.

You can really do science for yourself, - it's fun.....

[Albrecht]

9 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

 

with ' It's not worth the trouble posting anything like this until past bedtime for the resident naysayers , where it would at least remain in view for a little longer instead of being pushed back out of view by several pages from the hostile reactions of the usual Anti  Subjective mob.'

 

[Ralf11]

3 minutes ago, Albrecht said:

It is clear that you have little to no understanding of the principles, nor the definition, of what scientific investigation means or is...

 

 

I'v been a research scientist for several decades, muffy.