CPU Load and Sound Quality

[Blackmorec]

11 hours ago, pkane2001 said:

 

No, not ears. Your post-purchase-paranoia subsides after a few days but you keep insisting it's the new component breaking in. Admit it to yourself, you'll be a much happier person! (this one is a freebee also, I'm just too nice!)

Gosh you’re so nice; or gaslighting..... I’m not quite sure which, given the forum we’re on. 

😴  look into my eyes...you’re feeling sleepy, very sleepy.  When you awake your new power supply is going to sound like you’ve just added a D’Agostino Relentless 🎶$£$🎶🎶$££$🎶

[marce]

15 hours ago, Blackmorec said:

so the only problem we’re having here is that you’ve never swapped in some cables that make a substantial difference into a system capable of actually revealing the differences. Had you done so you’d probably be standing on my side of the fence

You always presume... And your presumptions are wrong.

[marce]

12 hours ago, Blackmorec said:

You know what would be useful.....for an engineer to actually sit down with a few components and figure out what break-in actually is. For example why do large Mundorf capacitors take so long to reach stability? Do we actually know the answer to that? 

Jeez don't you think all this has been done, look how much electronics surrounds you, your living in a bit of a vaccuum...

As for cable break in, its a bit of wire! and don't bother rabbiting about dielectrics either...

[marce]

On Topic, I use CAD at work, never noticed any problems with headphones and the CAD running, i7 laptop, not tried it when its going full blast though.

[STC]

1 hour ago, marce said:

On Topic, I use CAD at work, never noticed any problems with headphones and the CAD running, i7 laptop, not tried it when its going full blast though.

 

Just voted disagree. Trying to appease the audio gods specializing  in these things.  

 

Edit: Then changed my mind 🤣

[marce]

Maybe your synapses need more time to break in...😀

[STC]

They are on the verge of breaking down. Just had to edit earlier post 4 times. Alprazolam and whiskey is currently working overtime.

[Blackmorec]

3 hours ago, marce said:

You always presume... And your presumptions are wrong.

I deduced, which is more or less the same thing. My deduction of never having tried cables erred on the generous side, because I presumed that your system would be good enough to reveal the differences had you actually done so. Obviously that was the presumption that was wrong 😁

[davide256]

7 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

 

 

are you as stoopid as that post makes you seem???

 

 

try looking in my icon \ Audio System

 

 

Damn!

 

not to mention several threads I've started with pics of speaker layouts, room plans, etc. etc.

Apologies, I made the assume mistake.  It was not my intent to provoke rash behavior on your part. which sadly is what the "baiting" goal is of most of those countering @sandyk

 

 

[kumakuma]

38 minutes ago, davide256 said:

Apologies, I made the assume mistake.  It was not my intent to provoke rash behavior on your part. which sadly is what the "baiting" goal is of most of those countering @sandyk

 

 

 

You appear to making the same "assume mistake" again.

[marce]

2 hours ago, Blackmorec said:

I deduced, which is more or less the same thing. My deduction of never having tried cables erred on the generous side, because I presumed that your system would be good enough to reveal the differences had you actually done so. Obviously that was the presumption that was wrong 😁

No you presumed...

I have tried cables in the past... I have done mods in the past, I have built many speakers, when I could be bothered I have built amps, power supplies etc. Most of the electronics was a long time ago, still do speakers and will probably build some new ones next year,though I do fancy trying some electrostatic, heard some a few years back and enjoyed the presentation.

Of course my system is crap, they all have been over the years, I don't know why I bothered, I have wasted so much money and time, because non of my systems were revealing enough for me to hear the night and day differences cables make...

Just a note on this perception/hearing thing that I thought was infallible, I bought a nice new curly red lead for my Bass (Fender Lead not audiophile, I don't think they do guitar leads... ), plugged my Aerodyne in and started playing and was convinced the sound had changed because of the lead... So I went and got my other leads, changed the lead and the sound was just the same, the excitement of a new lead etc. fooled my perception, boy was I upset. This should not happen perception being fooled...

[PeterSt]

The colour was wrong.

[PeterSt]

20 hours ago, pkane2001 said:

If there is an audio design that really takes days to get to optimal operating conditions, you can be sure that is a broken design.

 

Paul, why ?

[pkane2001]

37 minutes ago, PeterSt said:

 

Paul, why ?

 

Simply because. It's a flaw that would make the device inconvenient to consume and render it unusable and unpredictable for a lengthy period of time. If it really exists in a device, it's a broken design. Any engineer aware of such a lengthy break-in period would design around it to ensure the stability of the circuit during the break-in. Amazingly, nobody does this. Not in the pro audio field, not in the sensitive electronic equipment that measures individual photons, not in LIGO in the extremely sensitive gravitational wave detectors. So why is it that audiophiles are the only group in the world that suffers from cable and component break-in? 

[Blackmorec]

2 minutes ago, marce said:

No you presumed...

I have tried cables in the past... I have done mods in the past, I have built many speakers, when I could be bothered I have built amps, power supplies etc. Most of the electronics was a long time ago, still do speakers and will probably build some new ones next year,though I do fancy trying some electrostatic, heard some a few years back and enjoyed the presentation.

Of course my system is crap, they all have been over the years, I don't know why I bothered, I have wasted so much money and time, because non of my systems were revealing enough for me to hear the night and day differences cables make...

Just a note on this perception/hearing thing that I thought was infallible, I bought a nice new curly red lead for my Bass (Fender Lead not audiophile, I don't think they do guitar leads... ), plugged my Aerodyne in and started playing and was convinced the sound had changed because of the lead... So I went and got my other leads, changed the lead and the sound was just the same, the excitement of a new lead etc. fooled my perception, boy was I upset. This should not happen perception being fooled...

To presume...to assume to be true, without proof, to take for granted, to suppose

 

I didn’t do that. I deduced using logic and logic came up with 2 possible answers: either you’d never tried replacing cables with superior cables OR your system simply couldn’t reveal the difference between the cables you did try. 

 

So instead of assuming an inferior system, I assumed instead that you’d never tried. Unfortunately I assumed incorrectly. OK I admit it. 

The thing about swapping cables and actually hearing a difference is that one cable has to be superior to the other. It has to do something that allows more of the signal’s detail to pass through it. If it loses as much detail, smears the same small voltage changes, picks up the same EMI  or whatever, you’re not going to hear a difference. If you bring along a cable to my place and we put it   Into my system, 1 of 3 things are going to happen. You are going to hear more OR you’re going to hear less OR you’re going to hear about the same. There’s no guarantee that you’re going to hear an improvement UNLESS the new cable is substantially better than the one its replacing. 

 

Look marce, I get no pleasure in arguing with you (I do however enjoy a good debate), but I’ve been doing this for over 45 years and I’ve had literally hundreds of different cables through my various systems. Some I borrowed, some I bought, some were used, some were new, some sounded better, some sounded worse, very few indeed sounded the same. The new ones needed time to settle, the better and more revealing my system got the more this characteristic was revealed, the borrowed ones, which had been extensively used required no burn in and immediately sounded better or worse and the important thing, their performance remained stable and didn’t change. 

 

With new cables I can usually hear the sound changing, so you could say that its my hearing acclimatising , but with well used cables the change is immediate and stable, so hearing acclimatisation with used cables goes out of the window.

 

Its a pity we can’t invite one another round to listen to our respective systems, then I could demonstrate some of the differences and let you hear what I’m hearing. 

 

I started to write a piece about my system, starting with the room, but unfortunately I looked something up and didn’t open a new window, so poof. But what I did realise in writing that piece was how much trouble I’ve gone to to get my system sounding like it does today. 

 

 

[davide256]

deleted, as not germane to topic of CPU load and sound quality

[Ralf11]

3 hours ago, davide256 said:

Apologies, I made the assume mistake.  It was not my intent to provoke rash behavior on your part. which sadly is what the "baiting" goal is of most of those countering @sandyk

 

 

 

No problem - your post's proximity to Mr. Rage & Belligerent post may have loaded up my CPU.

 

Sandy - you have never, ever* posted your speakers or headphone info.

 

 

* to quote Taylor Swift

[sandyk]

2 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

 

No problem - your post's proximity to Mr. Rage & Belligerent post may have loaded up my CPU.

 

Sandy - you have never, ever* posted your speakers or headphone info.

 

 

* to quote Taylor Swift

I have now posted on several occasions that I am now using AudioTechnica M70x headphones.

 I also recently explained how you could tame the upper HF response of some headphones by driving them from a higher than typical source impedance such as the 120 ohms that I am using.
 You directed people to look in your Profile for this information , but  If you had bothered to look in mine, you would have seen see that my equipment has been listed there for quite some time,   including the speakers.
 There are even internal photos of both of my highly modified DACs and my DIY Class A amplifier.
Attached is an internal photo of the 2U rack case  PSU for both my DIY Class A Preamplifier and the 15W Class A amplifier.

The 2 smaller toroidal transformers provide low voltage A.C. to the Preamp, and the large transformer, which has 2 lots of secondary windings is used to separately power the 2 regulated PSUs which provide + and -21V to the Power amplifier.  

[mansr]

[sandyk]

6 minutes ago, mansr said:

 Did you post further information about the USB Gizmo that you were developing ?

[fas42]

4 hours ago, pkane2001 said:

 

Simply because. It's a flaw that would make the device inconvenient to consume and render it unusable and unpredictable for a lengthy period of time. If it really exists in a device, it's a broken design. Any engineer aware of such a lengthy break-in period would design around it to ensure the stability of the circuit during the break-in. Amazingly, nobody does this. Not in the pro audio field, not in the sensitive electronic equipment that measures individual photons, not in LIGO in the extremely sensitive gravitational wave detectors. So why is it that audiophiles are the only group in the world that suffers from cable and component break-in? 

 

In the world of normal consumer listening, everything's good enough. In the world of people who start to realise that fiddling with parts of a system alters the sound, everything's broken ...

 

In LIGO, etc, an incredible amount of effort would go into stabilising every tiny, tiny aspect - because everyone knows, up front, that if they don't do this then the value of the experiment is almost non-existent. In audio, the people making the stuff usually don't care a stuff about the "fine details" - so the 'fussy people' then have to play catch up, after the fact.

 

I could mention an experiment in Europe where people didn't get the soldering 100% perfect, and there was a big BOOOM!!! - but I won't ... 😝

[Ralf11]

Glad you added the info to your profile Sandy - it wasn't there before.

 

also hope you like your hot HF headphones

[The Computer Audiophile]

Knock off the sophomoric comments people. Nobody wants to read a back & forth between adults acting like children. 

[PeterSt]

23 hours ago, pkane2001 said:

So why is it that audiophiles are the only group in the world that suffers from cable and component break-in? 

 

Because what we *1) can hear can not by measured by anyone *2) ?

 

1) Make that me. Not you.

2) No comment.

 

😊

 

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

Why is it that people care so much about how others have fun and so much about other people enjoying their experiences?

 

I care about people lacing drugs with Fentynol unbeknownst to the person taking the drug. That’s something worthy of my time. But, there isn’t enough time in the day to care about or argue with other people about how they enjoy their lives