kennyb123 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, acousticsguru said: Good decision! I have no idea why people claim a longer one would sound better? It's an optical cable. I know all the usual reasons when it comes to reflections off terminations in e.g. digital cables (electrical), but optical, no clue what difference that would make. Maybe they're hoping the cable itself would work as an attenuator (if so, how many kilometers are we talking about?), in which case I'd say they picked the wrong SFP module to begin with… The longer the cable the greater the signal is attenuated so the "sound better" observation might be due to avoiding use of attenuators. It's also been shown that coiling fiber will increase attenuation. I am using an 8m run because that's exactly the length I needed. With the Finisar SFPs there is no need for any additional attenuation to my ears. Digital: Sonore opticalModule > Uptone EtherRegen > Shunyata Sigma Ethernet > Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Gustard X26pro DAC < Mutec REF10 SE120 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali v1 and Typhon x1 power conditioners, Shunyata Delta v2 and QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation and Infinity power cords, QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation XLR interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD 60 speaker cables, GIK bass traps, ASC Isothermal tube traps, Stillpoints Aperture panels, Quadraspire SVT rack, PGGB 256 Link to comment
dbastin Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 17 hours ago, Rsbrsvp said: Next question. My ether regen in this setup would receive an optical cable on side A which originates at my router. But on side A I also have my server (a NUC) conneted to the etherregen with a rj45. My question is will this connection ruin the benifit of optical connetion? 17 hours ago, Rsbrsvp said: However, my Intel NUC server is also connected to side A of the etnerregen by rj45. Will this connection ruin the benifit of the optical connection ? Try the NUC plugged into the ER Side A, and then into the router/modem/switch and listen to the difference. In my experience ER is that works its very best when nothing else is plugged into it except 1 x data in Side A and data out Side B. I've had fibre from switch to ER too, and moved a very low noise server from Side A to the switch and gained an improvement. Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, dbastin said: Try the NUC plugged into the ER Side A, and then into the router/modem/switch and listen to the difference. In my experience ER is that works its very best when nothing else is plugged into it except 1 x data in Side A and data out Side B. I've had fibre from switch to ER too, and moved a very low noise server from Side A to the switch and gained an improvement. Don't understand. Nuc to side A is clear. Side B must go to my summus euphony endpoint. Are you recommending a second rj45 connection between NUC and the router? Link to comment
dbastin Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Rsbrsvp said: Don't understand I mean, try 2 options 1. NUC connected to Side A 2. NUC Connected to router Choose whichever sounds best to you. Link to comment
Duckworp Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 1/16/2020 at 5:27 PM, jcn3 said: Look at post 298 in this thread. Where do you see the post number in the thread? Link to comment
Abolive Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I am wondering as well 😋 Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 2/19/2021 at 4:38 PM, dbastin said: I mean, try 2 options 1. NUC connected to Side A 2. NUC Connected to router Choose whichever sounds best to you. Yeh. I tried that. Nuc to side a is definitely better.. Link to comment
hifiveharry Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Has anyone tried an Entreq grounding system on their Etherregen? I have one and it helps a very small amount when I put it on my dac. From what I have heard is you don't really need to use the ground on the Etheregen unless you are having some problems, which I am not. Just curious. Link to comment
audiotunesx Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Entreq Silver Minimus w/Atlantis booster box and infinity copper spade or rj45 cables killed dynamics. I gave up trying to tweak the etherregen. It’s the only component I have that’s great as is. Superdad 1 Link to comment
MartinT Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 The ER responded very well to a Coherent QP-1 supercap power supply and Coherent DC cable, Black Ravioli footers, large heatsink and heavy weight on top, Black Ravioli grounding box to terminal. TP-Link MR6400 4G router > Uptone EtherREGEN reclocker > Sonore Signature Rendu SE streamer > Gustard U18 DDC > Gustard X26 Pro DAC > Belles SA-100 power amp > Usher Dancer Be-20 speakers. AfterDark clocks x 2. PS Audio P3 & P10 regenerators. https://theaudiostandard.net Link to comment
magnuska Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 9 hours ago, audiotunesx said: Entreq Silver Minimus w/Atlantis booster box and infinity copper spade or rj45 cables killed dynamics. I gave up trying to tweak the etherregen. It’s the only component I have that’s great as is. Agree; I tried Entreq silver minimus infinity on the ER but I was no improvement as you say. Does it work for you on the router instead? The ER benefits from better powersupply, better external clock🙂 Vinnie Rossi LIO integrated amp with DAC, Sotm SMS-200 ultra/TX USB ultra, powered by an Uptone LPS-1 Audiostore Roonserver powered by a HD plex PS. ASUS router AC 68 powered by a Teddy pardo PS, Speakers are standmounts Klångedang T1 with external crossover , Rega Planar 3 Lejonklou Slipsik phonostage Link to comment
MartinT Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 My router also benefits from a Black Ravioli grounding box, and a Paul Hynes PSU. TP-Link MR6400 4G router > Uptone EtherREGEN reclocker > Sonore Signature Rendu SE streamer > Gustard U18 DDC > Gustard X26 Pro DAC > Belles SA-100 power amp > Usher Dancer Be-20 speakers. AfterDark clocks x 2. PS Audio P3 & P10 regenerators. https://theaudiostandard.net Link to comment
Popular Post PYP Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 hours ago, MartinT said: The ER responded very well to a Coherent QP-1 supercap power supply and Coherent DC cable, Black Ravioli footers, large heatsink and heavy weight on top, Black Ravioli grounding box to terminal. The eR sounds great with an UpTone UltraCap LPS 1.2. Added an old Aurios footer on top to add weight to keep it in place and as a heatsink but didn't notice a change in SQ. Superdad and audiotunesx 1 1 Grimm Audio MU1 > Mola Mola Tambaqui > Mola Mola Kaluga > B&W 803 D3 Cables: Kubala-Sosna Power management: Shunyata Room: Vicoustics “Nature is pleased with simplicity.” Isaac Newton "As neither the enjoyment nor the capacity of producing musical notes are faculties of the least use to man...they must be ranked among the most mysterious with which he is endowed." Charles Darwin - The Descent of Man Link to comment
audiotunesx Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 8 hours ago, magnuska said: Agree; I tried Entreq silver minimus infinity on the ER but I was no improvement as you say. Does it work for you on the router instead? The ER benefits from better powersupply, better external clock🙂 I use a Silver Minimus Infinity (with an Everest knob) for my network gear. I'm grounding my NAS with a copper spade cable and the router with a RJ45 copper cable (I like the non-Infinity version better on this spot). The infinity box can handle up to 3 small network devices (I had the silent angel switch on it as well, and tplink fmc's before that). On the NAS/Router/Silent Angel the usual "entreq magic" applies, in fact the difference is larger than then on the dac in my system. I think the Silver Minimus Infinity is perfect for network gear with the copper cables, I did not like the regular infinity minimus on this spot it was just too dull (and I'm one that prefers warmth). The eR is the only device I've tried that didn't take to entreq ground boxes, heck I even did a footer shootout (symposium rollerball jr, mig 2.0, herbies tenderfeet/baby footers, bdr cones, stillpoints ultra ss) and still couldn't improve the sound. The eR is how products should be built and IMO the best value of all that I've tried to improve my network section. I'm not going to touch it, but if there is an eR1.2 in years to come I want to be on the first batch. Link to comment
FIndingit Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I put a heatsink on the ER which was big enough to cover the whole top, but didn’t like what happened to the sound. Maybe I should’ve left it there longer for the temperature to stabilise or maybe the vibrations were bad, but no more heatsinking for me. Say NO to ROON Link to comment
Popular Post JohnSwenson Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, FIndingit said: I put a heatsink on the ER which was big enough to cover the whole top, but didn’t like what happened to the sound. Maybe I should’ve left it there longer for the temperature to stabilise or maybe the vibrations were bad, but no more heatsinking for me. As I've mentioned before, most CMOS (which almost everything is today) change their timing behavior radically with temperature, some parameters get better with higher temperature and some parameters get worse. Thus they will usually sound the best within a certain temperature range. The ER's optimal temperature is fairly high, somewhere in the neighborhood of 50C. The thermal system in the ER was designed so that in normal use the internal temperature will usually be in that range. Thus unless the ER is excessively hot putting a heatsink on it will frequently lower the temperature so it is below the optimal range. I do NOT recommend using a heatsink unless it is necessary. The simple test is: put your finger on the case, if you can't hold it there because it is too hot, then you can use a heatsink, if you can hold your finger on the case, leave it alone. John S. soares, Johnnydev, jamesg11 and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
Mikey26 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Placed a Bybee Quantum Signal enhancer under the Etherregen for a very nice improvement; more organic, holographic, liquid sound. Not bad for $129 and it doesn’t take up much space. https://www.tweekgeek.com/bybee-quantum-signal-enhancer-wood-version/ Link to comment
Ricardo007 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Mikey which side of Bybee QSE is in contact with the case? the magnetic side? Link to comment
ambre Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Hi all, I recently use Cisco SFP & RJ45 adapter on A-Side in the SFP cage of the EtherRegen. This gave me another uplift in SQ ( more detail, clarity and stereo-depth). Do you have same experiences? Ps. EtherRegen is powered by a Farad Super3 and also the Afterdark Giesemann Clock. I also use a double ethernet cable ( signal + and signal - ) made from Meicord Opal also an SQ uplift. Regards, Andreas Quote Ethernet::4x Bonn Silent Angel 8P, Afterdark Emperor Doublr Crown Masterclock and Cybershaft 75 Ohm,Mini Circuits convertor,Uptone EtherRegen with 75Ohm. SOTM Cat CAT 7. Audio: Auralic Vega G2.1, Cambridge Edge W, Kef Reference 3 speakers. Power: Farad super 3 (2x) , Keces P8 ( 2 Uptone LPS1.2 ) Afterdark 5V: Cables:Meicord Opal, SOTM Cat7 with filtering, Ghent Audio DC , Farad Level 2, Sharkwire speaker cable Link to comment
Mikey26 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Ricardo, the Etherregen is sitting on the Bybee Qse’s wooden side. Also replaced the Etherregen’s feet with Herbie’s audio big baby bootie for another lift in sound quality. Link to comment
mitch751 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 10 hours ago, ambre said: Hi all, I recently use Cisco SFP & RJ45 adapter on A-Side in the SFP cage of the EtherRegen. This gave me another uplift in SQ ( more detail, clarity and stereo-depth). Do you have same experiences? Ps. EtherRegen is powered by a Farad Super3 and also the Afterdark Giesemann Clock. I also use a double ethernet cable ( signal + and signal - ) made from Meicord Opal also an SQ uplift. Regards, Andreas Hi I also use a double ethernet cable ( signal + and signal - ) made from Meicord Opal - where can I get this ?? Thanks B&W 800 Diamond D2, Goldmund Eidos Reference CD, Goldmund Telos 600, Goldmund Mimesis 32, Cello Audio Palette MIV.[br]MacBook Pro, LIO, Mytek 192, HD800, Luxman SQ-38U, Luxman MQ-88u Link to comment
ambre Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 20 hours ago, mitch751 said: Hi I also use a double ethernet cable ( signal + and signal - ) made from Meicord Opal - where can I get this ?? Thanks Google Meicord opal in Germany or the Akiko Audio in the Netherlands Quote Ethernet::4x Bonn Silent Angel 8P, Afterdark Emperor Doublr Crown Masterclock and Cybershaft 75 Ohm,Mini Circuits convertor,Uptone EtherRegen with 75Ohm. SOTM Cat CAT 7. Audio: Auralic Vega G2.1, Cambridge Edge W, Kef Reference 3 speakers. Power: Farad super 3 (2x) , Keces P8 ( 2 Uptone LPS1.2 ) Afterdark 5V: Cables:Meicord Opal, SOTM Cat7 with filtering, Ghent Audio DC , Farad Level 2, Sharkwire speaker cable Link to comment
acousticsguru Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 2:18 AM, mitch751 said: Hi I also use a double ethernet cable ( signal + and signal - ) made from Meicord Opal - where can I get this ?? Thanks Easy to order direct via the website. Greetings from Switzerland, David. Link to comment
pietka08 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 27.02.2021 at 15:20, ambre said: Ps. EtherRegen jest zasilany przez Farad Super3, a także zegar Afterdark Giesemann. Używam również podwójnego kabla ethernetowego (sygnał + i sygnał -) wykonanego z Meicord Opal, również SQ uplift. Hello everyone. I own an ER powered by a Farad Super3 with a BG7TBL clock. From the ER to the Auralic Aries Femto streamer I used first a Supra Cat8, now happily a DesignaCable Belden CatSnake Cat6a. I wonder if Meicord Opal is the next rung up? In short has anyone compared the Meicord Opal with the DesignaCable Belden CatSnake Cat6a? Pozdrawiam z Polski Link to comment
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