roman410 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 6:27 AM, kzs70 said: Hello, I am thinking about upgrading the fuse in my Keces P3 too. I have checked the rating of the fuse originally installed in it, and it seems a T1.0A type (it is hard to read). Which type/rating fuse did you replace it with? Was it the SR Blue? Thanks, Zsolt Hi If you are not sure about type and rating of fuse, I will first contact the manufacturer before experimenting with aftermarket fuses. For safety reasons, you don't want install wrong type and amperage of fuse. I can recommend SR orange, if your funding let's go. Like them in every component I installed, JS-2, dac, even headphone amp. Link to post Share on other sites
kennyb123 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, roman410 said: Hi If you are not sure about type and rating of fuse, I will first contact the manufacturer before experimenting with aftermarket fuses. For safety reasons, you don't want install wrong type and amperage of fuse. I can recommend SR orange, if your funding let's go. Like them in every component I installed, JS-2, dac, even headphone amp. I agree on SR Orange. The problem with SR fuses though is that sometimes you need to go to the next highest power rating to ensure that they don’t blow when a component is first switched on. Best to also check with those who have the same component. At one point I swapped all my fuses with SR Blue. My preamp and amp were fine with the value specified by the manufacturer. My phono stage blew the fuse on power up though due to the inrush of current. I was fortunate to have a dealer who allowed me to swap the blown fuse for Blue of a higher rating. Abyss Man 1 Digital: Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Chord Hugo TT2 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali power conditioner, Shunyata Alpha and Delta power cords, Shunyata Alpha interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD60 speaker cables, ASC isothermal tube traps Link to post Share on other sites
roman410 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 56 minutes ago, kennyb123 said: I agree on SR Orange. The problem with SR fuses though is that sometimes you need to go to the next highest power rating to ensure that they don’t blow when a component is first switched on. Best to also check with those who have the same component. At one point I swapped all my fuses with SR Blue. My preamp and amp were fine with the value specified by the manufacturer. My phono stage blew the fuse on power up though due to the inrush of current. I was fortunate to have a dealer who allowed me to swap the blown fuse for Blue of a higher rating. That is true, SR fuses are famous to unreasonably blow up during powering on the device, especially on tube components. I have moded tube dac and have to settle up with double amperage, to stop blowing up the fuse. Good think that was happening during satisfaction guaranteed 30 days warranty and do not have problem get replacements. Link to post Share on other sites
audiotunesx Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 6:27 AM, kzs70 said: Hello, I am thinking about upgrading the fuse in my Keces P3 too. I have checked the rating of the fuse originally installed in it, and it seems a T1.0A type (it is hard to read). Which type/rating fuse did you replace it with? Was it the SR Blue? Thanks, Zsolt Hi, the Keces P3 is sensitive to the fuse. Per the manual 'Fuse : 2A fuse for 115V / 1A fuse for 230V'. I'm using a 115v and can confirm a 2A small/fast blow (F) fuse was in it. I'm guessing you're using 230v. With SR fuses you want to go one notch up, so I use 2.5v to avoid blowing the fuse when switching the unit on. The stock silver/ceramic is a little unnatural sounding on the treble and a few reviews have noted that in comparison to the Sbooster. The blue fuse corrects that and provides a very large jump in sound well worth it's price, especially if they're on sale for ~90 USD. My only issue with the Blue fuse is that everywhere I've heard it, there is a certain coolness/dryness in the upper frequencies that always present. To me the timbre is off, as the blue fuse imparts a slightly artificial character. Yesterday though, I heard what the orange fuse can do (though not on the Keces). It has a much longer break-in period and can sound off at first (dull, too warm). The orange is more realistic and natural sounding. It also really cleans up bass <40hz. Personally, I'm waiting for another 3 for 2 or 30% off sale and will pick up a few of these. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Vangelis Posted July 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, roman410 said: Hi If you are not sure about type and rating of fuse, I will first contact the manufacturer before experimenting with aftermarket fuses. For safety reasons, you don't want install wrong type and amperage of fuse. I can recommend SR orange, if your funding let's go. Like them in every component I installed, JS-2, dac, even headphone amp. Just a heads up, I’ve been told that Synergistic Research will be offering a Orange fuse special in August, buy two orange fuses get the third one for free. I plan to take advantage of that. roman410 and audiotunesx 2 Transparent Audio ethernet cable>TP-LInk 1200 WiFi router>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>switch>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>EtherRegen>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>Innuos Zenith MKII SE> AudioQuest Diamond USB>Innuos Phoenix>Sablon 2020 USB cable> Mojo Audio Mystique Evo DAC> Wireworld platinum 8 balanced interconnect>Headamp GS-X Mini>HIFi Man HE-1000se or Aesthetic Mimas> Audience SX speaker cables>Magnapan 1.7i. Synergistic Research Atmosphere Excite powers cords and Farad Super 3 PS for the EtherRegen. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post so-no-mah Posted July 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2020 The Synergistic Orange fuses are really special, so by all means get them on special! audiotunesx and gstew 1 1 Andy Link to post Share on other sites
Ricardo007 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, audiotunesx said: Personally, I'm waiting for another 3 for 2 or 30% off sale and will pick up a few of these. Where are these sale promotion going on or coming from? Link to post Share on other sites
kzs70 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Thanks everyone for the Keces fuse recommendations! I just received a confirmation form them, it is indeed a 1A 230V fuse. This August special offer at SR sounds good, if that happens I will buy some more for my amps too... Link to post Share on other sites
Vangelis Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 20 hours ago, Ricardo007 said: Where are these sale promotion going on or coming from? I heard about it from the cable company. Transparent Audio ethernet cable>TP-LInk 1200 WiFi router>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>switch>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>EtherRegen>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>Innuos Zenith MKII SE> AudioQuest Diamond USB>Innuos Phoenix>Sablon 2020 USB cable> Mojo Audio Mystique Evo DAC> Wireworld platinum 8 balanced interconnect>Headamp GS-X Mini>HIFi Man HE-1000se or Aesthetic Mimas> Audience SX speaker cables>Magnapan 1.7i. Synergistic Research Atmosphere Excite powers cords and Farad Super 3 PS for the EtherRegen. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post nonesup Posted July 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 1:27 AM, auricgoldfinger said: I'll be interested to know your impressions! Well I have had time to compare the new Corning Clear Curve with the generic yellow. Undoubtedly the sound is different. The sound with Corning is more transparent, the details are heard more clearly and the spatial presentation is better. Now this is my system, I think because of the cost it is easy to test. This is comparing both cables in 5 meters. I have gone to place the Corning of 10 meters to test and I have been surprised that by mistake they have sent LC-SC instead of LC-LC. I just sent you an email. auricgoldfinger and lwr 2 Link to post Share on other sites
lwr Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 3 hours ago, nonesup said: Well I have had time to compare the new Corning Clear Curve with the generic yellow. Undoubtedly the sound is different. The sound with Corning is more transparent, the details are heard more clearly and the spatial presentation is better. Now this is my system, I think because of the cost it is easy to test. This is comparing both cables in 5 meters. I have gone to place the Corning of 10 meters to test and I have been surprised that by mistake they have sent LC-SC instead of LC-LC. I just sent you an email. Please post part number and link for ordering. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
nonesup Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 http://www.fiberoptics4sale.com/products/x3lls1fiscz auricgoldfinger 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lwr Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 7 hours ago, nonesup said: http://www.fiberoptics4sale.com/products/x3lls1fiscz Excellent! Thank you! 🙏 Exactly what I needed! Link to post Share on other sites
PYP Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 8 hours ago, nonesup said: http://www.fiberoptics4sale.com/products/x3lls1fiscz For Corning multimode, duplex LC to LC cable: is Sonore the only source? $50/meter seems pretty pricey. Mola Mola Tambaqui / Kubala-Sosna XLR / Mola Mola Kaluga / KS biwire / B&W 803 D3 Ethernet: iMac/Roon > ... in-wall 5e ... > Sonore opticalModule [Sonore 5V LPS] > UpTone EtherREGEN + Cybershaft OP13 [UpTone JS-2 LPS] > Tambaqui ( = DAC/Roon Endpoint/preamp) Link to post Share on other sites
auricgoldfinger Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 There's also this one: https://www.fiberoptics4sale.com/collections/corning/products/clearcurvezbl Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Rubin Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 4 hours ago, lwr said: Excellent! Thank you! 🙏 Exactly what I needed! Alas, even though I am just across the Bay from FOSCO's facility, shipping is more than the cost of a short link. Otherwise, I might well have gone the Corning route, too. Thanks to @auricgoldfinger, here is what I am using for singlemode, which was $14.39, delivered, for .7m. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B008EN3H0A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_trXhFb11HH700 I have no idea who makes the innards, but suspect the product description would have said that it is Corning if it is. It works fine. I still wonder about attenuation with these short runs of singlemode, though. I don't have a clear understanding of when it's necessary (I guess it matters more with certain kinds of SFP's) and what bad stuff happens if you fail to use it when you should (SQ issues? Burn up your SFP? Burn up your optical Rendu?). I do recall hearing from Sonore that, even for multimode,they recommended using OM1 cables instead of the OM3 that everyone was using a few years ago with Trendnet FMC's because of overheating risk. I therefore suspect that I should be paying more attention to temperature than I am. PYP 1 Living room: Synology 218+ NAS > NUC 10 i7> Roon/Audirvana/JRiver Media Server > xfinity Xfi Router > Netgear GS348 Switch > EtherRegen > Sonore Signature Rendu SE Tier 2 > Wyred4Sound 10th Anniversary DAC > Wyred4Sound STI-500 > Revel F32 Concertas Basement: Synology 218+ NAS > NUC 10 i7>Roon/Audirvana/JRiver Media Server > Xfinity xfi Router > Netgear GS348 Switch >TrendNet FMC>Sonore OpticalModule> UltraRendu > NuPrime IDA-8 > KEF LS50's Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post auricgoldfinger Posted July 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Mike Rubin said: Alas, even though I am just across the Bay from FOSCO's facility, shipping is more than the cost of a short link. Otherwise, I might well have gone the Corning route, too. Thanks to @auricgoldfinger, here is what I am using for singlemode, which was $14.39, delivered, for .7m. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B008EN3H0A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_trXhFb11HH700 I have no idea who makes the innards, but suspect the product description would have said that it is Corning if it is. It works fine. I still wonder about attenuation with these short runs of singlemode, though. I don't have a clear understanding of when it's necessary (I guess it matters more with certain kinds of SFP's) and what bad stuff happens if you fail to use it when you should (SQ issues? Burn up your SFP? Burn up your optical Rendu?). I do recall hearing from Sonore that, even for multimode,they recommended using OM1 cables instead of the OM3 that everyone was using a few years ago with Trendnet FMC's because of overheating risk. I therefore suspect that I should be paying more attention to temperature than I am. If you're concerned about attenuation, you might consider exchanging the .7m cable for a 5m or 10m cable. Leaving the cables wound will provide some attenuation. The tighter the coil (more bends), the greater the attenuation. If your system is transparent enough, you may be able to hear a difference between the different lengths. kennyb123, austinpop and Mike Rubin 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kennyb123 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Mike Rubin said: Thanks to @auricgoldfinger, here is what I am using for singlemode, which was $14.39, delivered, for .7m. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B008EN3H0A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_trXhFb11HH700 I have no idea who makes the innards, but suspect the product description would have said that it is Corning if it is. It works fine. I use this and as you can see Corning is mentioned: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0099S4UTQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I could not tell you if this makes it any better. Mike Rubin 1 Digital: Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Chord Hugo TT2 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali power conditioner, Shunyata Alpha and Delta power cords, Shunyata Alpha interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD60 speaker cables, ASC isothermal tube traps Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Rubin Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, auricgoldfinger said: If you're concerned about attenuation, you might consider exchanging the .7m cable for a 5m or 10m cable. Leaving the cables wound will provide some attenuation. The tighter the coil (more bends), the greater the attenuation. If your system is transparent enough, you may be able to hear a difference between the different lengths. Thanks again. That sounds like a smart idea if I am risking equipments longevity by running too hot with the Finisars you guys talked me into getting. auricgoldfinger 1 Living room: Synology 218+ NAS > NUC 10 i7> Roon/Audirvana/JRiver Media Server > xfinity Xfi Router > Netgear GS348 Switch > EtherRegen > Sonore Signature Rendu SE Tier 2 > Wyred4Sound 10th Anniversary DAC > Wyred4Sound STI-500 > Revel F32 Concertas Basement: Synology 218+ NAS > NUC 10 i7>Roon/Audirvana/JRiver Media Server > Xfinity xfi Router > Netgear GS348 Switch >TrendNet FMC>Sonore OpticalModule> UltraRendu > NuPrime IDA-8 > KEF LS50's Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Rubin Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, kennyb123 said: I use this and as you can see Corning is mentioned: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0099S4UTQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I could not tell you if this makes it any better. I appreciate the candor. I am so used to every change being described as night-and-day better! Living room: Synology 218+ NAS > NUC 10 i7> Roon/Audirvana/JRiver Media Server > xfinity Xfi Router > Netgear GS348 Switch > EtherRegen > Sonore Signature Rendu SE Tier 2 > Wyred4Sound 10th Anniversary DAC > Wyred4Sound STI-500 > Revel F32 Concertas Basement: Synology 218+ NAS > NUC 10 i7>Roon/Audirvana/JRiver Media Server > Xfinity xfi Router > Netgear GS348 Switch >TrendNet FMC>Sonore OpticalModule> UltraRendu > NuPrime IDA-8 > KEF LS50's Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Rubin Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 And I just double-checked the description of the product that I bought. It also says it’s Corning. Even though it’s not remotely hidden, I overlooked the Corning reference in the product description. My bad. Living room: Synology 218+ NAS > NUC 10 i7> Roon/Audirvana/JRiver Media Server > xfinity Xfi Router > Netgear GS348 Switch > EtherRegen > Sonore Signature Rendu SE Tier 2 > Wyred4Sound 10th Anniversary DAC > Wyred4Sound STI-500 > Revel F32 Concertas Basement: Synology 218+ NAS > NUC 10 i7>Roon/Audirvana/JRiver Media Server > Xfinity xfi Router > Netgear GS348 Switch >TrendNet FMC>Sonore OpticalModule> UltraRendu > NuPrime IDA-8 > KEF LS50's Link to post Share on other sites
so-no-mah Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I recently swapped a Sonore opticalModule for the 10Gtek fiber transceiver I was using between my router and the ER. The 10GTek stuff powered by an HDPlex LPS with an Sbooster Ultra DC module was a definite improvement over an AQ Cinnamon Ethernet cable. Swapping our the 10GTek for the opticalModule and the associated System Optique SFPs and fiber link was a real ear opener. After a bit of break-in with the oM in the chain I honestly feel like I have new speakers! -Andy Digital Chain is (very long!): Router > AQ Cinnamon Ethernet > oM (HDplex LPS) > 5m Fiber > ER (Sbooster LPS) > Synergistic Reference Ethernet > Roon Nucleus+ (JS-2) > Curious USB Link > ISO Regen (LPS 1.2) > VBUS Isolator > Synergistic Reference USB > Matrix X-SPDIF 2 (JS-2) > AQ Mocha HDMI > PS Audio DSD Sr. via I2S Exocer 1 Andy Link to post Share on other sites
MarkusBarkus Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 7/25/2020 at 8:15 PM, Vangelis said: I heard about it from the cable company. FYI re: Orange Fuses: https://www.thecableco.com/synergistic-research-s-orange-fuses-buy-2-get-1-free Link to post Share on other sites
BigAlMc Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 58 minutes ago, MarkusBarkus said: FYI re: Orange Fuses: https://www.thecableco.com/synergistic-research-s-orange-fuses-buy-2-get-1-free Thanks Markus, And OT as it might be does anyone know if the UK dealers are honouring the 3 for 2? Cheers, Aland Synergistic Research Powercell UEF SE > Sonore OpticalModule (LPS-1.2 & DXP-1A5DSC) > EtherRegen (SR4T & DXP-1A5DSC) > PinkFaun modded Buffalo BS-GS2016P (Farad Super3 & LPS-1.2) > (Sablon 2020 LAN) Innuos Zenith SE server > (Sablon 2020 USB) Innuos Phoenix > (Sablon 2020 USB) PS Audio Directstream DAC > PS Audio M1200 monoblocks > Salk Sound Supercharged Songtowers Link to post Share on other sites
kzs70 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 8/1/2020 at 10:09 PM, BigAlMc said: And OT as it might be does anyone know if the UK dealers are honouring the 3 for 2? I am also looking for an EU/UK dealer if anyone knows... Thanks, Zsolt Link to post Share on other sites
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