Rsbrsvp Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Seems the Sablon is very favored for the B to streamer cable. For router to A and server to A, what do I get? I understand we want plastic terminated cables here. Is that correct? Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Forgive me for my ignorance, but why not get a good cat 8 cable and remove the metal shield from one side? Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 John, please just tell us your best cable recommendation for a router to A side of regen rj45. Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 How do I connect Fibre to my router rj45 port? Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I think I'll go with the blue jeans. Floating shield and insulated belden wires. Just read a report of a direct comparison of blue jeans to meicord and the blue jeans won. Seems to meet the description of Mr. Swenson Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Google: "meichord opal blue jeans" and there are several comparisons on the NAIM thread. Link to comment
Popular Post Rsbrsvp Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 I am new to this forum although I have been active in headfi for several years. I feel a need as a show of appreciation to publicly express how pleased I am with the etherregen. But first: Alex has spent so so much time just explaining to me how streaming audio works and how to set up my system, I cannot believe the type of support I have received from him for a relatively small purchase. Uptone customer service is nothing short of grade AAA. Now on to the etherregen. I have purchased alot of equipment over the years including an LPS and iso regen from uptone. Never was my reaction to a component as uterlly shocking as it was to the etherregen. It is FAR and away the craziest improvement to my system ever, and I own some pretty fancy stuff like a mutec ref. se-120 clock. I consider this product a miracle. Other stuff I bought from uptone was good performance vs price ratio stuff, but not miraculous. The etherregen is the most positively influential component I ever purchased; cost no object. There you have it. My report of my findings completely truthfull and non exagerated. Thank you to Uptone Superdad, soares and lwr 2 1 Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 By the way, Do others agree with not mixing ethernet cables on side A and B? I would appreciate Mr Swenson input. Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I'm new to this so I really appreciate everyone's help. Is optical module agreed by all to be preferable to rj45 or is it not clear and not agreed upon? What are the general sonic strengths and weaknesses of optical vs rj45? Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Regarding optical on side A I need counseling. Simple optical 101 lesson please. I buy a sonore optical module which connects both to my router by rj45 and then to the etherregen side A by optical cable and everything else remains the same? Is this correct? Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, GMG said: Yes this is correct just make sure to use matching and compatible modules and matching fiber. I use Finisar single mode: FTLF1318P2BTL or FTLF1318P3BTL and cable: 30 Meter Singlemode Duplex Fiber... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00552NN8O?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share I also use 3db attenuators on the receiving side of each module: FLYPROFiber LC Attenuator... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0899XN6B5?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share I don't understand where those huge termination plugs fit in the ether regen. Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 The cable goes straight in the sonore and etherregen or first into the finisar module and the module then plugs into the sonore and etherregen? Which means I need two modules..? Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Actually my next question is on cable length. Longer seems to be better, but does my sonore need to be far away from the etherregen or can it be a meter away and I can just bunch up the cable? Next question. My ether regen in this setup would receive an optical cable on side A which originates at my router. But on side A I also have my server (a NUC) conneted to the etherregen with a rj45. My question is will this connection ruin the benifit of optical connetion? RobertTT 1 Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Perhaps I was not clear. My modem has only rj45 out. I need the OM to convert to optical to get signal to etherregen side A which then connet to my summus endpoint . However, my Intel NUC server is also connected to side A of the etnerregen by rj45. Will this connection ruin the benifit of the optical connection ? Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 You are all so kind. I am not very technologically advanced so I don't know how to get a picture on this thread but I will describe what I have setup currently. I have a modem/router combination. That is how they make them in Israel. It is connected to my phone jack. It has four rj45 sockets. One of them i use with a rj45 ethernet cable to connect to side A of etherregen. From side B a second RJ45 cable leads to my summus endpoint. Now I also have an intel NUC used as a server connected by rj45 direct to side A of the etherregen. This connection is not necessary because I airplay amazon HD music from the NUC but I find the ethernet cable connection between NUC and side A of etherregen noticeably Improves sound, even with the cheapest cat5e cable I got from the phone company. I realize I could just airplay amazon music from my iPad but the pc amazon app allows exclusive wasapi mode while the tablet version does not. In addition I never stream direct from Amazon but rather download the music to the external SSD of my NUC. I have always found that music played from my SSD sounds noticeably better than direct streaming. I compared tidal streaming direct to amazon music from my ssd and found amazon from ssd superior. I do not believe Tidal allows downloads. I have on order a paul hynes sr7 turbo dual rail power supply. I thought to use it on my summus and etherregen. I also have a mutec ref10 se120 clock. It is connected to my dac and also to the etherregen. Any advice would be appreciated.. Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 For sure I have absolutely NO intention whatsoever to go optical for at least three months. I am taking lessons from you guys just to get ready. I agree that the er with sr7 turbo power supply and mutec clock may be all I need for a while. My sr7 power supply is dual rail galvanically isolated each rail from the other so I see no problem in connecting it to my endpoint and er with separate rails.. PYP 1 Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, dbastin said: Try the NUC plugged into the ER Side A, and then into the router/modem/switch and listen to the difference. In my experience ER is that works its very best when nothing else is plugged into it except 1 x data in Side A and data out Side B. I've had fibre from switch to ER too, and moved a very low noise server from Side A to the switch and gained an improvement. Don't understand. Nuc to side A is clear. Side B must go to my summus euphony endpoint. Are you recommending a second rj45 connection between NUC and the router? Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 2/19/2021 at 4:38 PM, dbastin said: I mean, try 2 options 1. NUC connected to Side A 2. NUC Connected to router Choose whichever sounds best to you. Yeh. I tried that. Nuc to side a is definitely better.. Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Is this after dark module just a OM like sonores? Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 I would also like to hear from the Uptone Audio owner and designer, Is optical input for the etherregen technically going to give better results than a good rj45 or not necessarily. I know every system is different and everyone's ears are different but TECHNICALLY, is it preferable over rj45 and is the difference big? What do you do in your own systems, rj45 or optical? Not asking for brand recommendations... The uptone group is always so helpful. Why duck from this question? We need your help. There must be a TECHNICAL better or worse just as there is for everything else you guys explain with your scientific minds... Link to comment
Popular Post Rsbrsvp Posted March 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2021 I have not tried optical but I do have an oxco and a very good linear power supply. These extras do improve things quite a bit to my ears. However, the etherregen alone with blue jeans rj45 and no additions is a STUNNING improvement on its own. To my ears a shocking one. You don't need the extras to get a HUGE lift. The extras just lift things higher. richard_crl032, agladstone, PYP and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Q. Does therj45 cable between router and OM need to be short for best sound? Also, does attenuator on fibercable improve sound? If so, how many decibles? Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 My small amount of experimentation results in lower voltages fed to etherregen equals meatier sound. Higher voltage is brighter and more open. The difference in sonics from 7v to 12v is actually quite substantial. I need to double. check this perception. Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Could be. In my system, with my linear power supply, with my ears, this is clearly what I am hearing. I have no claim beyond that. Link to comment
Rsbrsvp Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I use ghent 7n copper myself. PYP 1 Link to comment
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