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5 minutes ago, nonesup said:

Could you recommend a cable that is clearly superior in quality?

 

I dont know if it is superior but Corning ClearCurve is very good I use that with my single-mode 1310nm sfp modules. 

Main system
TAD D1000mk2, TAD M2500mk2, TAD CE-1, Ansuz Mainz 8 C2, Ansuz Darkz D-TC, 
Qobuz Studio -> Roon ROCK on NUC -> Uptone etherREGEN -> dCS Network Bridge -> AES/EBU -> DAC
HD Plex 200W PSU (4 rail for ISP fiber, router, etherREGEN and NUC)
 
Second system
Qobuz Studio -> Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree
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37 minutes ago, lmitche said:

Try a good single mode cable >= to 5 meters in length and single mode 1310nm SFPs like the Finisars that are widely available used on Ebay.

Thanks! A quick look at eBay and a lot of sellers from India - are there fake Finisar SFP's?
Tom

UpTone JS-2 LPS (powering Mini / NAS / eR) > Mac Mini (UpTone MMK) > UpTone EtherREGEN > WD-NAS > Ubiquiti X-SFP Router > Cisco 2960 (SFP > eR SFP) > Sonore UltraRendu (LPS-1.2) > UpTone IsoREGEN (LPS-1.2) > Denafrips Pontus R2R DAC > Conrad Johnson PV10 > QUAD 405-2 > SoundLab Dynastat Electrostatic/Hybride Speakers > Cables: Sablon Audio / Ghent Audio (JSSG360) / AudioQuest / PS Audio / Transparent / Nordost

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1 hour ago, MrKlutz said:

Everything works well through all the steps except after reinserting the SFP


tried pushing the SFP module *really hard* inside its cage?

when i first installed it I had no connection through the etherRegen 'till I did

Qnap HS-251+ NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a ZeroZone 19v/5A LPS) > Lumin U1 Mini (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) >  UpTone Audio ISO Regen (powered by an Uptone Audio UltraCap LPS-1.2) > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier + First Watt SIT 3  power amplifier (or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall III

 

headphones system:

Cirrus 7 > Lumin U1 Mini > Metrum Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones

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14 minutes ago, TwinPeak said:

Thanks! A quick look at eBay and a lot of sellers from India - are there fake Finisar SFP's?
Tom

The Finisar SFPs purchased on Ebay for my use all come from vendors in the US. I have never purchased an SFP from India, and most likely never will.

nuckleheadaudio.com

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38 minutes ago, octaviars said:

 

I dont know if it is superior but Corning ClearCurve is very good I use that with my single-mode 1310nm sfp modules. 

Yes I have heard of this manufacturer but I cannot find internet sellers of this cable in the LC-LC termination.  Do you know a seller?

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45 minutes ago, nonesup said:

Hi Imitche.
I am currently using this cable with my Finisar.  Could you recommend a cable that is clearly superior in quality?

Regards

Somehow "good" was turned into "superior". By "good", I meant that it works, the opposite of "bad" meaning it doesn't work. I have both.

 

I am not interested in fiber cable "rolling" per se, but if someone finds a "superior" cable that could be interesting.

nuckleheadaudio.com

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11 minutes ago, pl_svn said:

tried pushing the SFP module *really hard* inside its cage?

 

If I understand  @MrKlutz right it works for a while but then looses connection when he uses the SFP so it does work for a while.

 

2 minutes ago, nonesup said:

Do you know a seller?

 

I live in Sweden but ordered mine from this company.

 

https://www.fiberoptics4sale.com/collections/fiber-optic-products/products/x3lls1fiscz?lshst=collection

Main system
TAD D1000mk2, TAD M2500mk2, TAD CE-1, Ansuz Mainz 8 C2, Ansuz Darkz D-TC, 
Qobuz Studio -> Roon ROCK on NUC -> Uptone etherREGEN -> dCS Network Bridge -> AES/EBU -> DAC
HD Plex 200W PSU (4 rail for ISP fiber, router, etherREGEN and NUC)
 
Second system
Qobuz Studio -> Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree
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7 minutes ago, octaviars said:

If I understand  @MrKlutz right it works for a while but then looses connection when he uses the SFP so it does work for a while.


right why I asked: might be an inconsistent contact ;)

Qnap HS-251+ NAS (powered by an HD-Plex 100w LPS) > Cirrus7 Nimbini v2.5 Media Edition i7-8559U/32/512 running Roon ROCK (powered by a ZeroZone 19v/5A LPS) > Lumin U1 Mini (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) >  UpTone Audio ISO Regen (powered by an Uptone Audio UltraCap LPS-1.2) > Metrum Acoustics Adagio NOS digital preamplifier + First Watt SIT 3  power amplifier (or Don Garber Fi "Y" 6922 tube preamplifier + Don Garber Fi "X" 2A3 SET power amplifier, both powered from an Alpha-Core BP-30 Isolated Symmetrical Power Transformer) > Klipsch Cornwall III

 

headphones system:

Cirrus 7 > Lumin U1 Mini > Metrum Adagio > Pathos Aurium amplifier (powered by an UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS) > Focal Clear headphones

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9 hours ago, MrKlutz said:

Everything works well through all the steps except after reinserting the SFP I get confirmation of network connection and start playing - but after half a song it then drops out...


I played at least two songs through the Ethernet/copper-line attached with no issues (green and orange light)...

So there definitely something going on with the spf.

 

Hi Michael:

Thanks for going through the steps to confirm that your EtherREGEN is working well through all its copper ports.

 

Since there really is not much to the SFP cage (its connector is just wired straight to the main switch chip (and there is a 3.3V power network dedicated to powering whatever SFP transceiver you insert), the most likely source of your issue is one of the SFP transceivers (could be either the one you insert in the EtherREGEN or the one upstream).  You said you had a big power surge, so maybe one of them--or your TP-Link FMC has been damaged.

 

Please experiment further with: different FMC, different SFP transceiver modules, etc.  I'm sure you will discover the source of the trouble.  

Feel free to contact us directly for additional assistance.

Best wishes,

--Alex C.

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The listening/ chill room is complete and waiting on the arrival of the Sony 85" 900h tv.  I love my Regan in my 2 channel system as it is as simple as it gets.  Modem/Router> Supra Etthernet> Regen> Sotm cable> Cary DMS 600 Streamer/dac.

I am asking if the Regen will lose SQ if used a switch to the Sony also. Not so much if it will improve the Sony. Just do not want to lose anything from my 2 channel setup.

Thanks,

Russ 

EtherREGEN, Cary DMS 600 > Monoblock Odyssey Kismet Extremes in Stratos cases( Stillpoints, Sr Black fuses)> Paradigm Personas 5f, Combak Harmonica Footers, Cerious Technologies Matrix IC and Speaker Cable, SoTM dBl7,

Audience aR2p_TOSOX  power conditioner, Audience Au24se ,Triode Wire labs,Synergistic, power cables. 

 

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Installed my new ER. It is on the network for a side has  A side  yellow blinking lights. The B-side has a solid yellow.  The B side Ethernet out to connected to my Innuos Zenith.  For some reason I can not find or connect to my Innuos server/streamer. Anyone have an idea?

Transparent Audio ethernet cable>TP-LInk 1200 WiFi router>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>switch>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>EtherRegen>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>Innuos Zenith MKII SE> AudioQuest Diamond USB>Innuos Phoenix>Sablon 2020 USB cable> Mojo Audio Mystique Evo DAC> Wireworld platinum 8 balanced interconnect>Headamp GS-X  Mini>HIFi Man HE-1000se or Aesthetic Mimas> Audience SX speaker cables>Magnapan 1.7i. Synergistic Research Atmosphere Excite powers cords and Farad Super 3 PS for the EtherRegen.

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21 minutes ago, Vangelis said:

Installed my new ER. It is on the network for a side has  A side  yellow blinking lights. The B-side has a solid yellow.  The B side Ethernet out to connected to my Innuos Zenith.  For some reason I can not find or connect to my Innuos server/streamer. Anyone have an idea?

 

first thing i would do is restart your innous device.  next thing i would do is put everything on the "a" side to see if that works.  then you could also flip sides (innous from "b" to "a" side and your network connection from "a" to "b" side) and see if that works.

sources:  intel nuc8i7 (win10, roon core, hqplayer) (server) | intel nuc8i5 (audiolinux, naa) (renderer)
headphone rig:  schiit yggdrasil (a2, unison) > bryston bha-1 > senn hd600
main rig:  chord dave > parasound jc2bp > parasound jc5 > kef reference 1
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22 minutes ago, Vangelis said:

Installed my new ER. It is on the network for a side has  A side  yellow blinking lights. The B-side has a solid yellow.  The B side Ethernet out to connected to my Innuos Zenith.  For some reason I can not find or connect to my Innuos server/streamer. Anyone have an idea?


The “B” side on the ER is 100Mbps whereas the Innuos Zenith appears to be 1000Mbps (1Gbps) speed according to their specs.


As noted above, if you connect it to the “A” side and it works then that is the problem. If so, you could turn the ER around so incoming is side “B” and output is side “A”.

Eric


Ubuntu Studio Linux box (i7-9700, 8 cores, 16GB RAM, Intel X520-DA1 NIC, Roon, HQP) > fiber optic > MikroTik CRS305-1G-4S+ > fiber optic > opticalRendu (HQP NAA) > Holo Cyan (DSD version) > Nord One UP NC500MB mono blocks > Klipsch La Scala — digital volume control with HQP via Roon client, DSP with HQP convolution engine

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My server reboot did not help. My network speed averages just below 100mb . Does the ER require over 100 MB speed to function properly? It was also mentioned about shorter cables from out of the ER to the server are recommend, my ethernet cable is 20 feet. I’ll try reversing A to B. 

Transparent Audio ethernet cable>TP-LInk 1200 WiFi router>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>switch>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>EtherRegen>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>Innuos Zenith MKII SE> AudioQuest Diamond USB>Innuos Phoenix>Sablon 2020 USB cable> Mojo Audio Mystique Evo DAC> Wireworld platinum 8 balanced interconnect>Headamp GS-X  Mini>HIFi Man HE-1000se or Aesthetic Mimas> Audience SX speaker cables>Magnapan 1.7i. Synergistic Research Atmosphere Excite powers cords and Farad Super 3 PS for the EtherRegen.

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I output to an MK2 SE from the B side no problem

SYSTEM: Ghent JSSG360 Cat6a > EtherRegen/Farad Super 3 > Ghent JSSG360 Cat6a > Zenith MKII SE > Phasure Lush 2 > Innuos Phoenix > Phasure Lush 2 > PS Audio Directstream Sr DAC > Ayre K-5xe MP Preamplifier > Conrad Johnson MF-2500a > Vandersteen Quatro Woods

POWER: AQ (Niagara 5000/Tornado/Hurricane)/Audience AU24 SE LP/Triode Wire Labs/Shunyata (Python/Venom 3)/Nordost Blue Heaven/Audio Sensibilities Sig Silver DC 

CABLING: AQ (Earth/Go-4 Dbl Bi-Wire)

ISOLATION: IsoAcoustics/Herbie's/BDR/PS Audio Powerbase

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Switching the direction of the mote from a to B to A and back and rebooting everything did not solve my issue. Have I missed something significant here in my purchase. I guess my first and foremost concern is, does the EtherRegen require 100 mbps across the mote in either direction to function properly?  I live in a rural area and we max out at 110mbps a good day with a tail wind. Most the time it averages at 90 mbps.

Transparent Audio ethernet cable>TP-LInk 1200 WiFi router>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>switch>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>EtherRegen>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>Innuos Zenith MKII SE> AudioQuest Diamond USB>Innuos Phoenix>Sablon 2020 USB cable> Mojo Audio Mystique Evo DAC> Wireworld platinum 8 balanced interconnect>Headamp GS-X  Mini>HIFi Man HE-1000se or Aesthetic Mimas> Audience SX speaker cables>Magnapan 1.7i. Synergistic Research Atmosphere Excite powers cords and Farad Super 3 PS for the EtherRegen.

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1 hour ago, Vangelis said:

Installed my new ER. It is on the network for a side has  A side  yellow blinking lights. The B-side has a solid yellow.  The B side Ethernet out to connected to my Innuos Zenith.  For some reason I can not find or connect to my Innuos server/streamer.

 

Network diagram please.  You'll get it. There are lots of Innous/EtherREGEN users.

Use just one Ethernet port on Innous please.

 

33 minutes ago, ericuco said:

The “B” side on the ER is 100Mbps whereas the Innuos Zenith appears to be 1000Mbps (1Gbps) speed according to their specs.

 

Innous works fine at 100Mbps on 'B' side.  

 

25 minutes ago, Vangelis said:

Does the ER require over 100 MB speed to function properly?

No it does not.

 

Sorry to be so brief.  Am finishing the export invoices for 60+ international EtherREGEN shipments to go out this afternoon. Have about 90 minutes left for FedEx.  

Getting ALL units out over 12 days sooner than the promised date of July 21st! :D

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4 minutes ago, Vangelis said:

Switching the direction of the mote from a to B to A and back and rebooting everything did not solve my issue. Have I missed something significant here in my purchase. I guess my first and foremost concern is, does the EtherRegen require 100 mbps across the mote in either direction to function properly?  I live in a rural area and we max out at 110mbps a good day with a tail wind. Most the time it averages at 90 mbps.

 

Network diagram please.  What is upstream? What/where is server? What is endpoint, s/w, etc.?

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25 minutes ago, Vangelis said:

Switching the direction of the mote from a to B to A and back and rebooting everything did not solve my issue. Have I missed something significant here in my purchase. I guess my first and foremost concern is, does the EtherRegen require 100 mbps across the mote in either direction to function properly?  I live in a rural area and we max out at 110mbps a good day with a tail wind. Most the time it averages at 90 mbps.

 

Hope this is not OT but what we are talking about with regards to speed is your local (inside your house) network speed. The speed (e.g. 100Mbps) you refer to, I believe, is the Internet speed in/out of your house and is not really relevant here. Generally, the network boxes inside your house (router, ER, switches, computers) will auto-negotiate with each other depending the speed of each device, generally 10/100/1000Mbps, as well as control the network traffic as needed.

 

As mentioned, a diagram of your network can help everyone troubleshoot your issue and get you up and running.

Eric


Ubuntu Studio Linux box (i7-9700, 8 cores, 16GB RAM, Intel X520-DA1 NIC, Roon, HQP) > fiber optic > MikroTik CRS305-1G-4S+ > fiber optic > opticalRendu (HQP NAA) > Holo Cyan (DSD version) > Nord One UP NC500MB mono blocks > Klipsch La Scala — digital volume control with HQP via Roon client, DSP with HQP convolution engine

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Not sure I can draw a diagram, that may take the art department/wife to come up with how to do that. I will do my best here to describe. There is not much in complexity.

Plugged into A side of ER:

Cable providers modem via 2 ft Transparent Audio Ethernet cable

TP-Link AC 1200 WiFi router via 2 ft Transparent Audio Ethernet cable
 

Plugged into B side of ER:

End point Innuos Zenith MKII SE streamer via 20 ft Transparent Audio Ethernet cable


There is a network Is up because I can stream Wi-Fi through the house. Yellow flashing LED  A side

Yellow Solid LED B side

Transparent Audio ethernet cable>TP-LInk 1200 WiFi router>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>switch>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>EtherRegen>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>Innuos Zenith MKII SE> AudioQuest Diamond USB>Innuos Phoenix>Sablon 2020 USB cable> Mojo Audio Mystique Evo DAC> Wireworld platinum 8 balanced interconnect>Headamp GS-X  Mini>HIFi Man HE-1000se or Aesthetic Mimas> Audience SX speaker cables>Magnapan 1.7i. Synergistic Research Atmosphere Excite powers cords and Farad Super 3 PS for the EtherRegen.

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Had a similar issue a few days ago with new eRG and Aurender ACS10. Would not stream. Network all good. Swapped ethernet cable eRG to streamer. Nope.

 

Refreshed Conductor app on iPad a couple if times, but it took about an hour of ignoring it and coming back to it before all was fine. All green lights and streaming.
 

I know it's apples to applesauce, and not common troubleshooting practice, but maybe check back in a bit? I know that is frustrating advice...

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30 minutes ago, Vangelis said:



Plugged into A side of ER:

Cable providers modem via 2 ft Transparent Audio Ethernet cable

TP-Link AC 1200 WiFi router via 2 ft Transparent Audio Ethernet cable
 

Plugged into B side of ER:

End point Innuos Zenith MKII SE streamer via 20 ft Transparent Audio Ethernet cable


There is a network Is up because I can stream Wi-Fi through the house. Yellow flashing LED  A side

Yellow Solid LED B side

Sorry quick draft, crude drawing.

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Transparent Audio ethernet cable>TP-LInk 1200 WiFi router>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>switch>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>EtherRegen>Transparent Audio ethernet cable>Innuos Zenith MKII SE> AudioQuest Diamond USB>Innuos Phoenix>Sablon 2020 USB cable> Mojo Audio Mystique Evo DAC> Wireworld platinum 8 balanced interconnect>Headamp GS-X  Mini>HIFi Man HE-1000se or Aesthetic Mimas> Audience SX speaker cables>Magnapan 1.7i. Synergistic Research Atmosphere Excite powers cords and Farad Super 3 PS for the EtherRegen.

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38 minutes ago, Vangelis said:

Not sure I can draw a diagram, that may take the art department/wife to come up with how to do that. I will do my best here to describe. There is not much in complexity.

Plugged into A side of ER:

Cable providers modem via 2 ft Transparent Audio Ethernet cable

TP-Link AC 1200 WiFi router via 2 ft Transparent Audio Ethernet cable
 

Plugged into B side of ER:

End point Innuos Zenith MKII SE streamer via 20 ft Transparent Audio Ethernet cable


There is a network Is up because I can stream Wi-Fi through the house. Yellow flashing LED  A side

Yellow Solid LED B side

 

Have you tried:

 

Modem > Router > ER "A" > ER "B" > Innuos

 

Having the ER between your modem and router doesn't seem to make sense to me but then again I am no network expert.

Eric


Ubuntu Studio Linux box (i7-9700, 8 cores, 16GB RAM, Intel X520-DA1 NIC, Roon, HQP) > fiber optic > MikroTik CRS305-1G-4S+ > fiber optic > opticalRendu (HQP NAA) > Holo Cyan (DSD version) > Nord One UP NC500MB mono blocks > Klipsch La Scala — digital volume control with HQP via Roon client, DSP with HQP convolution engine

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