Popular Post STC Posted November 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2019 From Mark A Hall’s FB PAP and crenca 2 ST My Ambiophonics System with Virtual Concert Hall Ambience Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Been waiting for a thread like this for years but it wasn't meant to be about using TP to raise up speaker cables.. As for such a use of TP I would strongly recommend stacking 2 or 3 rolls of paper on top of one another - works much better (3D soundstaging improvement exceeds one's wildest expectations, no need for ambiophonics anymore).! (I won't mention the fact that at the same time you minimize in a very cheap and effective way the danger of unexpected running out of the crucial item..) crenca 1 Link to comment
STC Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 You haven’t seen my tweaks yet! ST My Ambiophonics System with Virtual Concert Hall Ambience Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, STC said: You haven’t seen my tweets yet! You can post them here, awaiting anxiously! Link to comment
STC Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 See previous post. Edited with pix. ST My Ambiophonics System with Virtual Concert Hall Ambience Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, STC said: You haven’t seen my tweaks yet! I used them too (for minimizing the listening room floor resonances of course) Beware, too many can make the floor collapse though, happened to me on more than one occasion so finally I decided to buy 2 subwoofers, 60 kg each, work just as effective, were much more expensive though.. STC 1 Link to comment
STC Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 I have more than 100 of them. They were from the electric co. They stopped using them when they replaced all the wires to twisted cables. Compared them with another cable lifter and I thought it really worked well Thought of selling them to audiophiles but then decided not to. They are rotting somewhere in my friends store. sphinxsix 1 ST My Ambiophonics System with Virtual Concert Hall Ambience Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, sphinxsix said: Been waiting for a thread like this for years but it wasn't meant to be about using TP to raise up speaker cables.. As for such a use of TP I would strongly recommend stacking 2 or 3 rolls of paper on top of one another - works much better (3D soundstaging improvement exceeds one's wildest expectations, no need for ambiophonics anymore).! (I won't mention the fact that at the same time you minimize in a very cheap and effective way the danger of unexpected running out of the crucial item..) Seriously, I've tried different materials for speaker cable supports. Including paper, wood, glass, etc. I do not exclude that the imagination worked, but each material had its own characteristic influence on the sound: in different cases the sound acquired a light wooden or paper or glassy tint, etc. crenca 1 Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said: Seriously, I've tried different materials for speaker cable supports. Including paper, wood, glass, etc. I do not exclude that the imagination worked, but each material had its own characteristic influence on the sound: in different cases the sound acquired a light wooden or paper or glassy tint, etc. Did you notice any difference in sound between regular paper supports and toilet paper ones.? Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, sphinxsix said: Did you notice any difference in sound between regular paper supports and toilet paper ones.? Never tried toilet paper for audiophile purposes. And wouldn't have, intuitively I was looking for something more dense/solid. I suppose certain hardwoods such as ebony, or glass/ceramics can suit better for the purpose. Anyway, for me it's in the past because my system has become much simpler and I'm looking somewhere else for ways to improve SQ, such as using linear power supplies at critical points or inclusion of NAA/switches into the system. Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 54 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said: Never tried toilet paper for audiophile purposes. I'm slightly disappointed by your exclusion of toilet paper from the experiment Anyway if you heard right and: 1 hour ago, AnotherSpin said: each material had its own characteristic influence on the sound: in different cases the sound acquired a light wooden or paper or glassy tint, etc. that could mean that the only way to get rid of these wooden, glassy colorations caused by different supports materials would be no using supports at all which would be easiest to achieve in weightlesness.. Hmmm, I really wonder - does music sound different when air molecules aren't burdened bu gravity and speaker cables have no support at all..? Ps. I new this thread would have a 'HOT!' status sooner or later.! Link to comment
kumakuma Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I think you need to modify the thread title to add "for audiophile purposes" sphinxsix 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
Popular Post sphinxsix Posted November 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, kumakuma said: I think you need to modify the thread title to add "for audiophile purposes" I think the thread title is just perfect after all using anything 'correctly' means 'for audiophile purposes'! crenca and kumakuma 2 Link to comment
Daccord Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Seems there's a correct use for everything... sphinxsix 1 Link to comment
AnotherSpin Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, sphinxsix said: I'm slightly disappointed by your exclusion of toilet paper from the experiment I'm afraid to disappoint you even more, but even in the bathroom I use a shower bidet. Not for audiophile purposes, but only in hygienic ones. Link to comment
sphinxsix Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, Daccord said: Seems there's a correct use for everything... Daccord 1 Link to comment
Superdad Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I could see stacks of toilet paper—maybe on broom handles—being used as acoustic treatments in a room. The very small toilet alcove in our master bathroom has much different acoustics when the rack in the corner is empty of the six rolls it holds when we refill it. Remember when toilet paper was available in colors? One could have an acoustic wall’s worth spell out something with a few colored rolls mixed in. “MQA” perhaps? Ralf11 1 UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
lucretius Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Next, some seller of tweeks, inspired by this thread, will be offering for sale, toilet paper with "special" properties for audiophiles. Superdad 1 mQa is dead! Link to comment
rickca Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Superdad said: The very small toilet alcove in our master bathroom has much different acoustics when the rack in the corner is empty of the six rolls it holds when we refill it. Alex I see you're continuing to disclose more than any other audio designer. Now we have to consider whether Charmin or Cottonelle works better. I'd tell you what I use but then ... you know. Superdad 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
kumakuma Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 https://www.supplytime.com/Blogs/Blog/Which-toilet-paper-is-better--one-ply--two-ply-or-Ultra_19.aspx Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
esldude Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I think TP is best used for the little orifices in the rear. For your bass. You know speaker ports. Oh and btw, TP is the best oil filter for your car. Google it. And always keep in mind: Cognitive biases, like seeing optical illusions are a sign of a normally functioning brain. We all have them, it’s nothing to be ashamed about, but it is something that affects our objective evaluation of reality. Link to comment
Popular Post Superdad Posted November 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, rickca said: Now we have to consider whether Charmin or Cottonelle works better. I'd tell you what I use but then ... you know. No s**t man! Yeah, the EtherREGEN launch has gone so well that I’m feeling pretty “flush” now. Ralf11, sphinxsix, rickca and 2 others 1 4 UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
rickca Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I can tell already, this is going to be another one of those 600 page threads. sphinxsix 1 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Popular Post Superdad Posted November 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, esldude said: I think TP is best used for the little orifices in the rear. You know speaker ports. “Ass-reflex” designs? esldude and sphinxsix 2 UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
kumakuma Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Superdad said: No s**t man! Yeah, the EtherREGEN launch has gone so well that I’m feeling pretty “flush” now. Just now, Superdad said: “Ass-reflex” designs? I think kids call these (Super)dad jokes... Superdad 1 Sometimes it's like someone took a knife, baby Edgy and dull and cut a six inch valley Through the middle of my skull Link to comment
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