PAR Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 "When the price to take a chance on better sound is less than a single pot of tea per month " Wow! How much is tea in America? Over $12.50 for a pot of tea? The limited period for which this Qobuz offer has been made and the limited number of subscribers that it will apply to suggests to me that this is only a test by Qobuz to establish what effect it may have on subscription numbers rather then necessarily a full time change or something that will necessarily apply in Europe. They have left a loophole to revert to the old prices should it not produce what it required i.e. an increase in subscriber volume that outweighs the loss of income per head. When Qobuz dropped prices earlier, around the time of the USA operation commencing, us Europe subscribers were swiftly sent an email offering a way of taking advantage of the new prices. Nothing in my mailbox this morning aside from their normal weekly new releases flyer though ☹️. I will see what Monday brings. Link to comment
bbosler Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 their website sucks. I clicked all over the place and there is nowhere I can find that explains the different plans. Select "streaming plans" or "discover the Qobuz memberships" and it takes you to Studio Premier but really doesn't say what it is or what the other plans are. If you find the link to "explore our plans" you go to the same place. Is there only one plan now? It mentions "Sublime" but I can't find what that is. Click on "see compatible hi-fi brands" and you go to a page that talks about different resolutions. see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
ShawnC Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, bbosler said: Is there only one plan now? It mentions "Sublime" but I can't find what that is. Yes, just one plan for everyone. If you become a Sublime member you get discounts on purchasing downloads from their site. This is explained in the video posted earlier. Computer setup - Roon/Qobuz - PS Audio P5 Regenerator - HIFI Rose 250A Streamer - Emotiva XPA-2 Harbeth P3ESR XD - Rel R-528 Sub Comfy Chair - Schitt Jotunheim - Meze Audio Empyrean w/Mitch Barnett's Accurate Sound FilterSet Link to comment
rickca Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 The weird thing is that I haven't gotten an email from Qobuz about this promotion. If Chris hadn't posted about it I wouldn't even know about it. @dmackta please note. I had a Qobuz account in France for several years. The account was converted to a US subscription back in March this year. I'm advising you of this because you may not be reaching all of your intended subscribers. I'm very happy about the Studio Premier pricing. In France, depending on the EUR USD exchange rate, I was paying $20-$25 USD per month for HiFi. Then the USA subscription changed that to $200 a year. Now I also get hires streaming for $150 a year! Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
bobbmd Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 @dmackta like @rickca I haven't received an email about this new pricing system(BRAVO! for it) and I have had Qobuz since it became available and also had a France address/account for years( with an address of Oneida,New France no less-this is what the Northeast USA would have been called if the French had won on the Plains of Abraham!!--always thought this was pretty cheeky of you) Link to comment
tapatrick Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I really rooted (and still do) for Qobuz to succeed being the underdog and all that, and I wanted to believe the reviews that it is the best but not in my experience. The price drop is tempting to try again but for me price is not the issue only reliability. Many will say it is reliable for them which is great. I live in London with solid 70mbps fibre internet and I have no trouble with Tidal over a few years of use, so it's not my service that is the issue. I have tried Qobuz extensively on 2 occasions with a gap of a year or more in between and found it frustratingly unreliable, drop outs/missing tracks/almost no response from help desk or follow ups. If they sort this out I'll be supportive. Topaz 2.5Kva Isolation Transformer > EtherRegen switch powered by Paul Hynes SR4 LPS >MacBook Pro 2013 > EC Designs PowerDac SX > TNT UBYTE-2 Speaker cables > Omega Super Alnico Monitors > 2x Rel T Zero Subwoofers. Link to comment
bobbmd Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 @dmackta @The Computer Audiophile if I am currently and always have been in one form or another a HIFI/Premier or whatever it's called subscriber(MONTHLY) since I will automatically get the lower monthly charge can I switch to yearly/annual subscription and how do I do that exactly? thanks(already did that with TIDAL__nice job Qobuz!) Link to comment
ShawnC Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 On the desk top application, update your app, then in the center at the top it says modify your account. That will open another window, click change plan, your now there with options to change from monthly to yearly. Computer setup - Roon/Qobuz - PS Audio P5 Regenerator - HIFI Rose 250A Streamer - Emotiva XPA-2 Harbeth P3ESR XD - Rel R-528 Sub Comfy Chair - Schitt Jotunheim - Meze Audio Empyrean w/Mitch Barnett's Accurate Sound FilterSet Link to comment
exdmd Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 If you did not get an email about the new Studio Premier $14.99 pricing it means you did not sign up on the US website and are getting charged 24.99 pounds or euros for Studio. When I signed up for the beta even though I live in US they assigned me to the Great Britain website. Contact customer service to get your country of origin changed and price lowered. Look at the URL when you are logged in to your account to see if there is a GB in it, if so @ShawnC's method won't work. You have to be on the Qobuz US shop. Link to comment
Masterstroke Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 No sign of it in UK yet. If we don't get price parity with the US I'll quit my Studio subscription and switch to the not too bad Amazon HD which I have on trial till December. I will not put up with discrimination. rolandg 1 Link to comment
Masterstroke Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 No sign of it in UK yet. If we don't get parity with the US I'll quit my Studio subscription and switch to the not too bad Amazon HD which I have on trial till December. I will not put up with discrimination. Link to comment
firedog Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, rickca said: The weird thing is that I haven't gotten an email from Qobuz about this promotion. If Chris hadn't posted about it I wouldn't even know about it. @dmackta please note. I had a Qobuz account in France for several years. The account was converted to a US subscription back in March this year. I'm advising you of this because you may not be reaching all of your intended subscribers. I got an email from Qobuz announcing the change about 3 hours after Chris posted. I'm guessing they will extend some kind of discount to more countries. But their prices are also dependent on the royalties they have to pay and the prices distributors determine for albums (yes, the distributors control the retail pricing and how much, if any, discount streaming services can give). The Computer Audiophile 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Musicophile Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I just really hope that they don’t kill my legacy sublime subscription any time soon. Like for @firedog, my habit of purchasing several high res albums per month with the sublime discount make the streaming subscription essentially a free giveaway. Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
Sonicularity Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 In February 2018 I paid $249.99 for Qobuz Studio. I changed my subscription to this new Studio Premier, which from all references appears to be identical to what I already was using but $100 cheaper. I opted for the annual pay at $149.99, but I was pro-rated the difference in the remainder of my previous annual payment, making it $85 for another 12 months of service. I hope this is right and I didn't downgrade. Currently streaming a Qobuz track at 24/196, "Don't Keep Me Wondering" by The Allman Brothers Band with Roon. So far so good. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
luisma Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 16 hours ago, charlesphoto said: Another year ordered. Great deal Hi Charles, did you get the prorated billing already or you were billed full price and waiting for a refund? Link to comment
firedog Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Sonicularity said: In February 2018 I paid $249.99 for Qobuz Studio. I changed my subscription to this new Studio Premier, which from all references appears to be identical to what I already was using but $100 cheaper. I opted for the annual pay at $149.99, but I was pro-rated the difference in the remainder of my previous annual payment, making it $85 for another 12 months of service. I hope this is right and I didn't downgrade. Currently streaming a Qobuz track at 24/196, "Don't Keep Me Wondering" by The Allman Brothers Band with Roon. So far so good. I think you are fine, they did the same kind of thing with me. You are getting a year for $85 from the day of the change. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
luisma Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, Sonicularity said: In February 2018 Did you meant maybe Feb 2019? 23 minutes ago, Sonicularity said: but I was pro-rated the difference in the remainder of my previous annual payment so you received the prorated price right away, I wonder why mine wasn't like that, maybe because I went from Sublime+ to Premier? Link to comment
Sonicularity Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Love it! I now pay $149.99/yr for Qobuz Studio Premier, $11.99/mo with military discount for Tidal HiFi, $7.99/mo for Google Play Music at a grandfathered discount rate for joining early, and I get Apple Music as part of my Verizon Beyond Unlimited plan. In my past is Rhapsody, MOG, Deezer, Spotify, Amazon Music, and a few others I can't recall that I free-trialed or joined for a month or two. I'm a streaming music fool. Or just a fool. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
Sonicularity Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, luisma said: Did you meant maybe Feb 2019? so you received the prorated price right away, I wonder why mine wasn't like that, maybe because I went from Sublime+ to Premier? Yes, sorry, Feb 2019. I changed my subscription to the new Studio Premier and opted to pay now with my credit card on record for the annual plan. It automatically discounted the amount I had remaining on my $249.99 Studio annual plan that was already paid in full. Link to comment
Sal1950 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 My email says this ??? ".If you are serious about music, you deserve the best sound quality. Studio Premier gives you unlimited access to our certified Hi-Res and CD lossless quality catalog and in-depth exclusive editorial content for $14.99/month.Available to the first 100,000 subscribers only (offer expires Jan 31, 2020)." https://info.qobuz.com/optiext/optiextension.dll?ID=A45A6F8PDqFLb4YiDhD8DwxcrIVFqzEEkCGkZNN4UF7Ks6KktuSNfuUklTBahSEVyGa6o%2Bj0YjUpQjyEO14J1rJsLa4kC "The gullibility of audiophiles is what astonishes me the most, even after all these years. How is it possible, how did it ever happen, that they trust fairy-tale purveyors and mystic gurus more than reliable sources of scientific information?" Peter Aczel - The Audio Critic R.I.P. MQA 2014-2023: Hyped product thanks to uneducated, uncritical advocates & captured press. Link to comment
luisma Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sonicularity said: Studio Premier and opted to pay now with my credit card on record for the annual plan. It automatically discounted the amount I had remaining on my $249.99 Studio annual plan that was already paid in full Yeah I did the same thing but did not get the pro rate, maybe because I went from Sublime+ to Premier (different classes) thank you Link to comment
luisma Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sonicularity said: 11.99/mo with military discount for Tidal HiFi, $7.99/mo for Google Play Music I had the grandfathered price too but I wasn't using it so I cancelled so I did with Tidal, too many systems, I preferred to simplify Link to comment
luisma Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 What I would really like (additionally from Qobuz) would be like Tidal the ability of having multiple devices registered and even maybe stream simultaneously to 2 or 3 devices, for example I used to shared my Tidal account with my daughter, I cannot do the same with Qobuz. I understand that Qobuz may not prefer to go into that model (like tidal, netflix etc) or will just prefer to simplify plans, but it would be useful and I'm sure it will move more people out or Tidal over to them ... Just a comment Link to comment
Forehaven Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I'm giving Qobuz a try here guys. I created an acct, and can log in on the website. But I can't log into Roon/Qobuz, nor the webplayer using the same log in info. Any ideas? Ryzen 7 2700 PC Server, NUC7CJYH w. 4G Apacer RAM as Renderer/LPS 1.2 - IsoRegen/LPS-1/.2 - Singxer SU-1/LPS1.2 - Holo Spring Level 3 DAC - LTA MicroZOTL MZ2 - Modwright KWA 150 Signature Amp - Tidal Audio Piano's. . Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Forehaven said: I'm giving Qobuz a try here guys. I created an acct, and can log in on the website. But I can't log into Roon/Qobuz, nor the webplayer using the same log in info. Any ideas? User error 😁 Not sure Chris. Try your username or your email as your username. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
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