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On 11/14/2019 at 8:27 AM, thotdoc said:

If you are on the fence about replacing the optical module, my experience so far is that it is worth it, no question.

 

Ugh, not what I wanted to hear... ;)

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51 minutes ago, EVOLVIST said:

Perhaps I'm receiving a stronger signal with the ER in? Would that sound right?


The ‘music’ itself encoded in the ethernet stream is 100% identical (bit perfect, the etherREGEN is not a DSP or otherwise manipulating the data) and with the same Roon settings will have shown digital clipping before and after you using the etherREGEN. I would eat both of my shoes if it wasn’t and make Alex and John do the same! :)

 

What could be happening is you listening with more focus, now noticing the clipping and/or the EtherREGEN giving you ‘a clearer window to look through’. 

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4 minutes ago, Jud said:

I like Iron & Wine (the name Sam Beam records under) and his album Beast Epic.

Oooh... I think I may have that CD somewhere (looks Iike I never ripped it). Will be squinting at my shelves for it this evening. (One of these days I'll have the time to alphabetize my CD collection. 9_9) Thanks for the recommendation!

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12 minutes ago, Jud said:

Back to the many-splendored pleasures of ER and music to enjoy them with, as I occasionally listen during shuffle play/burn-in:

 

I do the same thing and had a similar experience with Carlos Nakai's Carry the Gift.  This is always on my burn-in playlist (yes, I have one of those in Roon) because it is typically a nice, calm interlude and the flute just floats.  But the first song suddenly sounded different.  It starts with a feathery flute intro, then in the distant background a strumming guitar (hadn't heard it so early in the song previously).  Now, with the ER, it was clear as day that the guitar gets louder as the flute goes to the background.  The guitar plays faster and louder.  Then the flute comes in faintly at first, then the two instruments are equally loud.  So, what was a gentle song was now (for the genre) a barn burner!  Finally, I heard two excellent musicians making music.  

Mola Mola Tambaqui / Kubala-Sosna XLR / Mola Mola Kaluga / KS biwire / B&W 803 D3

Ethernet:  iMac/Roon > ... in-wall 5e ... > Sonore opticalModule [Sonore 5V LPS] > UpTone EtherREGEN + Cybershaft OP13 [UpTone JS-2 LPS] > Tambaqui ( = DAC/Roon Endpoint/preamp)

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I particularly like that Jud & a few others reference outstanding albums/ tracks ... it’s a way into new musical paths, in addition to listening sonics for our tweaked gear.

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1 hour ago, Superdad said:

This thread is on its 7th page--with detailed and insightful first-hand reports from many people with extremely refined (and expensive systems (looking at you @stevebythebay9_9). And there is also an active 7-page thread going on over at ASR where they can't figure out what this device could possibly do and are just bouncing around being dismissive and insulting.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/uptone-etherregen.9260/page-5#post-266563

Oh well. x-D

Jason seems to have gone to the 'other side'. I remember him from the regen thread. I think he even made CAD drawings for 3d printing a cabinet for the green regen card after the amber came out

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My new EtherREGEN sounds marvelous.  I had been running from bridged JCAT Net connections on my Linux server directly to the Ethernet Renderer module in the MSB Select II DAC.  Now I'm running out the EtherREGEN and I hear more detail.  I'll no longer need the bridge.

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Hadn't listened to vocals.  The song Love is Blindness from Cassandra Wilson's New Moon Daughter.  I've listened to this one many times, but I literally stopped what I was doing and had to sit down to hear it all.  What a magnificent instrument the human voice can be.  And if you are familiar with her albums you know she works with wonderful musicians.  Now I have to look up the guitarist because he is making it all work.  

Mola Mola Tambaqui / Kubala-Sosna XLR / Mola Mola Kaluga / KS biwire / B&W 803 D3

Ethernet:  iMac/Roon > ... in-wall 5e ... > Sonore opticalModule [Sonore 5V LPS] > UpTone EtherREGEN + Cybershaft OP13 [UpTone JS-2 LPS] > Tambaqui ( = DAC/Roon Endpoint/preamp)

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1 hour ago, Dutch said:


The ‘music’ itself encoded in the ethernet stream is 100% identical (bit perfect, the etherREGEN is not a DSP or otherwise manipulating the data) and with the same Roon settings will have shown digital clipping before and after you using the etherREGEN. I would eat both of my shoes if it wasn’t and make Alex and John do the same! :)

 

What could be happening is you listening with more focus, now noticing the clipping and/or the EtherREGEN giving you ‘a clearer window to look through’. 

 

Putting it that way, yeah, what I wrote sounds silly. :) On the same token, though, I've had the clipping indicator for the last couple of years and never saw so much as a blip in the red. It's always in sight when I'm listening to music. Moreover, I'm not talking about brickwalled recordings either. We've got nice, easy wavs with peaks and valleys.

 

Anyway, it's probably a non-issue. There's nothing wrong with a little added headroom, anyway. My question was more like, "That can't be happening, can it!?" 😵

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1 hour ago, Darryl R said:

  I had been running from bridged JCAT Net ... Now I'm running out the EtherREGEN ... I'll no longer need the bridge.


That’s very interesting! To understand you correctly, please elaborate on your finding:

a) is the EtherREGEN better than the JCAT Net? (A vs B comparison) or..

b) does the EtherREGEN make the JCAT Net redundant (no benefit from JCAT Net with the ER in the chain)

c) ..?

 

Case (b) would be a stunning result/achievement!

 

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38 minutes ago, Dutch said:

@EVOLVIST, I understand! :) But if you’d like to convince yourself or me/us a simple experiment could do that; just remove the etherregen for a while and go back to your previous setup and settings.

 

I may, when the ER finishes its burn in. After all, I would remiss if I didn't do a before and after comparison in my system. 

SonicTransporter i5 -> Linn KDS/3 -> M3a-800S -> EgglestonWorks Andra II

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