mikicasellas Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 4 hours ago, TwinPeak said: If you (as I am) are obsessed with female voices, you aught to listen to norwegian vocalist Kari Bremnes. Choose her 24/96 recordings when streaming or downloading. With EtherREGEN in the system, she is an absolute joy to listen to. BTW - I have a new USB-cable connected from DAC to my Mac Mini: CAD USB-1 - and it's delivering the goods to an overwhelming degree 🙂 Thanks for sharing this magnificent discovery, INCREDIBLE both in musicality and quality of recording 👌 TwinPeak 1 Link to comment
Popular Post mikicasellas Posted March 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2020 When my ER arrived after a few good hours (200), i tried different PSUs on it and back then (December) i was using a Macmini with a NUC which was powered by a PH SR4 19V, honestly by that moment i did not find much difference even when tried my SR4 on the ER, so i left the SR4 with the NUC where it belonged bes, now i got rid of the NUC and put the SR4 to rest trying to look where to put it in my NEW scenario ( a one only PC for server/ streamer ) and after being almost fore selling the SR4, TODAY i put it behind the ER to try again wondering if with this new setup would make some change, with this server, you can hear the noticeable difference putting the SR4 on ER, im very happy !! Don't get me wrong i was very happy with there stock Uptone PSU, it is just that now is better, bigger, meatier, clearer and less constricted Highly recommended. Superdad and PYP 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Mike Rubin Posted March 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 7:58 PM, Jud said: If anyone wants to know how damn good the ER is, I just found myself listening, fascinated, to old James Taylor singing Moon River! That's sad! 🤑 Blake and Jud 2 Living room: Synology 218+ NAS > NUC 10 i7 > HQP Embedded > xfinity Xfi Router > Netgear GS348 Switch > Sonore Optical Module Deluxe > Sonore Signature Rendu SE Optical Tier 2 > Okto DAC 8 Stereo > Topping Pre90 Preamp > Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini > Revel F32 Concertas Computer Desk System: Synology DS-218+ NAS > Dell XPS 8930/NUC 10 i7 > HQP Desktop > xfinity Xfi Router > EtherRegen > ultraRendu > Topping D90 DAC > Audioengine A5+'s Link to comment
FrankMA Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Was looking to try moving my music server (Innuos MKII SE) to the A side of the ER since it is of course a noisy computer at heart (although one very well executed) and wanted to move it pre moat. This did force me from USB to Ethernet. Ran this experiment last weekend: Before: Network>Ghent JSSG360 Cat6a>ER (A Side)>Ghent JSSG360 Cat6a (ER B Side)>Innuos MKII SE>Lush II>tX-USBultra/Uptone LPS 1.2>Lush I>PS Audio DS Sr After: Network>Ghent JSSG360 Cat6a>ER (A Side)>Ghent JSSG360 Cat6a (ER A Side)>Innuos MKII SE>Wireworld Starlight Cat8 (ER B Side)>PS Audio DS Sr (I did have to move the ER off it's normal isolation setup (Herbie's/weight) to do this) Initial impressions were: After: A little more polite, slightly better separation/soundstage. Softer Before: Music had more weight, seemed more musical. Fuller I need to run this experiment again with a new Ghent I have on order in place of the Wireworld so I don't have to move the ER and can go back & forth more easily. I also have a Matrix X-SPDIF 2 via I2S I need to try at some point Curious to hear feedback from anyone with a similar USB setup who has moved their server to the A side and changed to ethernet Superdad 1 MAIN: Sonore Optical Module Deluxe/Farad Super 3 (7v) > Uptone EtherRegen/Farad Super 3(9v)/AfterDark Emperor Signature/Farad Super 3 (12v) > Innuos Zenith MKII SE (ER A) > ER (B) > Meitner MA-3 DAC > Ayre K-5xe MP Preamplifier > Ayre VX-5 Twenty Amplifier > Vandersteen Quatro Woods POWER: AQ Niagara 5000 > AQ (Hurricane)/Triode Wire Labs/Shunyata Python/Nordost Blue Heaven/Audience AU24 SE/Audio Sensibilities Sig Silver CABLING: Silversmith Audio Fidelium Speaker/Sablon Pantela Reserva 2020 Lan/Ghent JSSG360 Cat 6/AQ Earth & Pegasus/Aurelis Deuland 75ohm ISOLATION: Stillpoints/Symposium/IsoAcoustics/Herbie's/PS Audio Powerbase Link to comment
kennyb123 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 8 hours ago, FrankMA said: Curious to hear feedback from anyone with a similar USB setup who has moved their server to the A side and changed to ethernet So many variables that it might be tough to draw any conclusions from anyone else. Cables themselves can be enough to swing things in a particular direction. Interesting that you have a Lush 1 following a Lush 2 in the before configuration. I found the Lush 2 to be a lot better than the Lush 1 so I would have thought to put it just after the txUSB. Digital: Sonore opticalModule > Uptone EtherRegen > Shunyata Sigma Ethernet > Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Gustard X26pro DAC < Mutec REF10 SE120 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali v1 and Typhon x1 power conditioners, Shunyata Delta v2 and QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation and Infinity power cords, QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation XLR interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD 60 speaker cables, GIK bass traps, ASC Isothermal tube traps, Stillpoints Aperture panels, Quadraspire SVT rack, PGGB 256 Link to comment
FrankMA Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Hi Kenny - there was a wide variety of opinions where to put the Lush II. Some said best before txUSB. Where I landed but certainly one of 1000 variables kennyb123 1 MAIN: Sonore Optical Module Deluxe/Farad Super 3 (7v) > Uptone EtherRegen/Farad Super 3(9v)/AfterDark Emperor Signature/Farad Super 3 (12v) > Innuos Zenith MKII SE (ER A) > ER (B) > Meitner MA-3 DAC > Ayre K-5xe MP Preamplifier > Ayre VX-5 Twenty Amplifier > Vandersteen Quatro Woods POWER: AQ Niagara 5000 > AQ (Hurricane)/Triode Wire Labs/Shunyata Python/Nordost Blue Heaven/Audience AU24 SE/Audio Sensibilities Sig Silver CABLING: Silversmith Audio Fidelium Speaker/Sablon Pantela Reserva 2020 Lan/Ghent JSSG360 Cat 6/AQ Earth & Pegasus/Aurelis Deuland 75ohm ISOLATION: Stillpoints/Symposium/IsoAcoustics/Herbie's/PS Audio Powerbase Link to comment
kennyb123 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, FrankMA said: Hi Kenny - there was a wide variety of opinions where to put the Lush II. Some said best before txUSB. Where I landed but certainly one of 1000 variables Just 1000? Haha Usually the theory that what’s lost can’t be later restored holds true. But with a device like the txUSB regenerating the signal, I would think the best cable last would be the way to go. With the PhoenixUSB, my dealer found a strong preference for the much better cable coming after it, for example. But like you said, lots of variables. FrankMA 1 Digital: Sonore opticalModule > Uptone EtherRegen > Shunyata Sigma Ethernet > Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Gustard X26pro DAC < Mutec REF10 SE120 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali v1 and Typhon x1 power conditioners, Shunyata Delta v2 and QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation and Infinity power cords, QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation XLR interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD 60 speaker cables, GIK bass traps, ASC Isothermal tube traps, Stillpoints Aperture panels, Quadraspire SVT rack, PGGB 256 Link to comment
stevebythebay Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 13 hours ago, FrankMA said: I need to run this experiment again with a new Ghent I have on order in place of the Wireworld so I don't have to move the ER and can go back & forth more easily. I too will be interested as I had found whenever mixing different brands of Ethernet cables the results were often poor. Mixing WireWorld with AudioQuest was a particular mess, probably due to different design approaches. Same happened when I initially experimented with the new Shunyata cables. When I was able to use all Shunyata everything else paled in comparison. This stuff is so unexpectedly complex in what gets delivered to our ears/brains 😱 FrankMA 1 Steve Schaffer Grimm MU1 / dCS Vivaldi Upsampler - APEX DAC - Clock / Spectral DMC-30SV preamp / Spectral Anniversary monoblocks / Wilson Audio Alexia V / Wilson Lōkē subs / Shunyata Everest / Shunyata Omega interconnects, power cables, Ethernet / Shunyata Altaira / Uptone EtherREGEN switch / Cybershaft OP21A-D / Uptone JS2 LPS / HRS racks - Vortex footers - damping plates Link to comment
Blake Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I've had my ER in the system for a month or so. I made a number of changes to my system as I installed a new DAC and usb cable (Sablon Reserva Elite 2020 model- killer cable and highly recommended!) at the same time I installed the ER. Swapping the ER in and out of the system, I am hearing more detail, a larger, more expansive sound stage (depth, width, height), better laying/separation of individual instruments, increased transparency, and more of the "musicians are in your room" (i.e. it sounds more natural/real) with the ER installed in the chain. The thing is, it seems that in my experience, whenever I install a new component or accessory, I look for those types of sonic improvements and when a change is deemed a "success" for me, I will get improvements in one or more of the areas noted above, without any corresponding negatives. It is a big bonus when all of these sonic improvements are provided with just one component or accessory. Fortunately for me, the ER, Sablon USB and Terminator all did this. I have read a couple of the reviews in this thread, but for the most part I have avoided reading the impressions in this thread to attempt to avoid influence. I assume my sonic impressions are likely what others are hearing as well so my report is not likely to be earth-shattering news. Very happy with my purchase. Superdad 1 Speaker Room: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Pacific 2 | Viva Linea | Constellation Inspiration Stereo 1.0 | FinkTeam Kim | Revel subs Office Headphone System: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 3 | Viva Egoista | Abyss AB1266 Phi TC Link to comment
Superdad Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Blake said: I assume my sonic impressions are likely what others are hearing as well so my report is not likely to be earth-shattering news. Very happy with my purchase. Hi Blake: That's great, thanks! Just a heads up--there will be some surprises published tomorrow morning... UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
cat6man Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 10:31 PM, Mike Rubin said: That's sad! 🤑 beyond sad! i love his early folk stuff (sweet baby james) but JT playing (or attempting) "Not Fade Away" is just embarrassing. YMMV Link to comment
kennyb123 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Blake said: Swapping the ER in and out of the system, I am hearing more detail, a larger, more expansive sound stage (depth, width, height), better laying/separation of individual instruments, increased transparency, and more of the "musicians are in your room" (i.e. it sounds more natural/real) with the ER installed in the chain. The thing is, it seems that in my experience, whenever I install a new component or accessory, I look for those types of sonic improvements and when a change is deemed a "success" for me, I will get improvements in one or more of the areas noted above, without any corresponding negatives. It is a big bonus when all of these sonic improvements are provided with just one component or accessory. Fortunately for me, the ER, Sablon USB and Terminator all did this. I also recently re-evaluated the benefits of the ER. Same conclusion: very happy with my purchase. I posted my recent observations in the post that follows. Superdad 1 Digital: Sonore opticalModule > Uptone EtherRegen > Shunyata Sigma Ethernet > Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Gustard X26pro DAC < Mutec REF10 SE120 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali v1 and Typhon x1 power conditioners, Shunyata Delta v2 and QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation and Infinity power cords, QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation XLR interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD 60 speaker cables, GIK bass traps, ASC Isothermal tube traps, Stillpoints Aperture panels, Quadraspire SVT rack, PGGB 256 Link to comment
TwinPeak Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 If you want to test your system to the limit on bass response - with EtherREGEN installed, please give Michael Manring and his record "Soliloque" a try. My favourite is "Selene" (which is a live recording). Good luck 🙂 Jud 1 UpTone JS-2 LPS x 2 > Mac Mini (UpTone MMK/JS-2 LPS) > Cisco 2960 > EtherRegen 1 (1.2 LPS) > EtherRegen 2 (1.2 LPS) > OpticalModule (JS-2 LPS) > OpticalRendu (JS-2 LPS) > Denafrips Hermes DDC (i2S) > Denafrips Pontus II R2R DAC > Conrad Johnson Tube Preamp > Denafrips Hyperion Amp > SoundLab Dynastat speakers // CABLES: Ghent Audio (JSSG360) / Sablon Audio / Tubulus Argentus / AudioQuest / PS Audio / Transparent Link to comment
Matias Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Austinpop's review is up MikeyFresh 1 1. WiiM Pro - Mola Mola Makua - Apollon NCx500+SS2590 - March Audio Sointuva AWG 2. LG 77C1 - Marantz SR7005 - Apollon NC502MP+NC252MP - Monitor Audio PL100+PLC150+C265 - SVS SB-3000 3. PC - RME ADI-2 DAC FS - Neumann KH 80 DSP 4. Phone - Tanchjim Space - Truthear Zero Red 5. PC - Keysion ES2981 - Truthear Zero Red Link to comment
Popular Post Superdad Posted March 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2020 Rajiv Arora's big review of the EtherREGEN is up! This terrific and comprehensive review also includes the premier of a link to our 'white paper' on the underpinnings of a lot of this weird digital stuff and how the EtherREGEN addresses these interesting issues. For further discussion and questions regarding the paper--which will be followed in the weeks to come with some measurements John has made--please go to a new thread created for such. So we can keep this one on-topic. Hope you all enjoy reading both the review and the paper. Thanks, --Alex & John so-no-mah and Jud 1 1 UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
Jud Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 8:59 AM, TwinPeak said: If you want to test your system to the limit on bass response - with EtherREGEN installed, please give Michael Manring and his record "Soliloque" a try. My favourite is "Selene" (which is a live recording). Good luck 🙂 Have always liked him. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Popular Post GryphonGuy Posted March 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2020 Something struck me about the eR's presentation last night. Every album/track I listen to is now a performance and I can sense the passion in those performances. It just has me amazed day-in and day-out at how important the low-level signals are in our listening pleasure. Damn you Uptone Audio! I MUST stop listening and get some actual work done! 😍 Jud, Superdad, Dougster and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Jud Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 May I also recommend "A Way With Words" from Robert Plant's "Carry Fire," and "Cry On My Shoulder" from Bonnie Raitt's "Nick Of Time." (I find several of her albums that I own to be surprisingly well produced, something I never really remarked before.) One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Popular Post PLGA Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 Hello guys Im Pedro from Argentina. First of all, I hope everyone is doing well with this pandemic virus! What a situation! Regarding listening impressions on the ER, here are my thoughts. Before I start, let me say that I have a pretty decent sounding hi end stereo system (with two subwoofers), wich I've tuned ver carefully with a lot of tweaks and accesories like AC dedicated line, speakers feet, speakers, subs and listening position location, etc etc. I havent heard many multi thousand dollars systems, but mine, before the ER and the last upgrades I've made (some of them very good like the Audioquest Niagara 1200 for instance), soundeded better than the three I've heard, two of them costing more than 100k and one more than 200k US dollars. All of the listening I do is streaming Tidal. To make it short. I've had very good digital gear before the ER, but this device has push a very good sounding system another step up. Let me ve clear about a couple of things: 1- In my system the difference is NOT night and day, but quite noticeable. Its not like upgrading speakers or power amp, but totally worthwile for the asking price. The areas were I found the biggest improvements are less digital flavour, less noise floor and more bass. 2- You have to burn it not less than 50 hours before a real listening test. Brand new I felt a good upgrade, but it has become much bigger with burning. For me, it is the icing of the cake on very good sounding systems, mostly with a digital streaming source, and I guess it should be a bigger upgrade in systems with basic digital gear. Good job UpTone! PS: Im sorry for my english. Its not my native language. Superdad, MikeyFresh, austinpop and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Popular Post thyname Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 I’d say: Vote for Pedro! PLGA, Mike Rubin, PYP and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
Sfine0 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 As an aside, I have an SGC 7v 15w power supply that I got with my Ultrarendu that I am not using. Will it work with the EtherRegen? I’m stuck at home for the next few weeks with my grand kids and need something to take my mind off of things. I hope everyone gets thru this situation in good health. steve Link to comment
André Gosselin Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sfine0 said: As an aside, I have an SGC 7v 15w power supply that I got with my Ultrarendu that I am not using. Will it work with the EtherRegen? I’m stuck at home for the next few weeks with my grand kids and need something to take my mind off of things. I hope everyone gets thru this situation in good health. steve I tried the SGC 15w 7v with the ER. Most of the time it failed to keep the ER up after a couple of hours. My experience is that this lps is not powerfull enough for the ER. I had to go for the SGC 50W. Link to comment
Superdad Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Sfine0 said: As an aside, I have an SGC 7v 15w power supply that I got with my Ultrarendu that I am not using. Will it work with the EtherRegen? Technically it should be fine Mr. Fine. At 7V the EtherREGEN draws about 1.3A, so that's just 9.1W. But Andrew gets those little supplies from China and I've measured a bunch of similar small Chinese LPS units that were not able to deliver anywhere near their rated current. So you can give it a try, but do keep an eye on it. And if you have any trouble, switch back. 1 minute ago, Sfine0 said: I’m stuck at home for the next few weeks with my grand kids and need something to take my mind off of things. I hope everyone gets thru this situation in good health. steve Thanks Steve. Hope you stay healthy too. Just got done cancelling our long-planned (and long-needed) week-long ski vacation to Whistler in Canada with friends. Was supposed to start next Friday. We would almost go, but my wife's business (environmental education for school kids in Yosemite Natl. Park) is majorly impacted by Covid-19. She is having to furlough most of her 65 person staff--herself included. Seems like a good time for vacation, but it is just the wrong week. UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
André Gosselin Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Superdad said: Technically it should be fine Mr. Fine. At 7V the EtherREGEN draws about 1.3A, so that's just 9.1W. But Andrew gets those little supplies from China and I've measured a bunch of similar small Chinese LPS units that were not able to deliver anywhere near their rated current. So you can give it a try, but do keep an eye on it. And if you have any trouble, switch back. Alex, I did the same math as you when I tried the SGC 15w 7v on the ER, but scratched my head trying to understand why this lps systematically failed to correctly power the ER after a couple of hours. Reading your post, I now understand better... Link to comment
Popular Post stevebythebay Posted March 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2020 Sorry to hear about your cancelled trip. Seems to be a very common disruption for most everyone. I've been told not to come to the various senior sites I perform volunteer work. But I may get a gig delivering meals to others starting soon. Just need to get clearance. PYP, Mike Rubin, MikeyFresh and 2 others 1 2 2 Steve Schaffer Grimm MU1 / dCS Vivaldi Upsampler - APEX DAC - Clock / Spectral DMC-30SV preamp / Spectral Anniversary monoblocks / Wilson Audio Alexia V / Wilson Lōkē subs / Shunyata Everest / Shunyata Omega interconnects, power cables, Ethernet / Shunyata Altaira / Uptone EtherREGEN switch / Cybershaft OP21A-D / Uptone JS2 LPS / HRS racks - Vortex footers - damping plates Link to comment
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