creativepart Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Currently I have a SoTM SMS200 (not Ultra or Neo) Powered by an iFI $50 wall wart. I feed this into a Chord Qutest (I've been inserting a Schiit Eitr in between to convert USB from the SMS200 to S/PDIF). I like the sound A LOT. Nothing, that I know of, is really missing. I just think if it's this good at this level that I bet it could be even better with some changes. I know I could try many things - but I'm considering one of these 4 options (at the moment): 1. Buy a Sbooster or similar PS for the SMS200 and probably another one for the Qutest - cost about $800 2. Buy a SMS200 Ultra Neo AND the aforementioned Sbooster PSs - cost about $2000 3. Buy a Sonore OpticalRendu Package and PSs. And change to Optical Networking to feed the Qutest - cost about $2,200 4. Buy any manor of streamer - but the AURALiC ARIES G1 appeals to me at present - cost about $2,600 I was 100% all set on No. 4, but started thinking of No. 3 instead. I don't see a lot of reviews for the OpticalRendu nor the Aries G1. The few that are out there are glowing. But it's not really a chorus just a smattering. Anyone here have real world experience with these options that would kindly add their $.02? PS. Please don't ask... what's missing or say that DAC sucks, etc. Thanks Analog: Rega P8 > Ortofon Cadenza Black > Bob's Devices 20:1 SUT > EAR 834P Deluxe MM/MC tube phono stage Digital: Shanling ET-3 CD Transport. Streaming via SoTM SMS200 Ultra Neo w/ SPS500 power supply > Chord Hugo TT2 Sound: PS Audio PowerPlant3 > Naim Supernait3 > Harbeth P3ESR Link to comment
ArthurOtt Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I think the sound quality would be significantly better if you go with Option 4 instead of Option 3. Link to comment
charlesphoto Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, ArthurOtt said: I think the sound quality would be significantly better if you go with Option 4 instead of Option 3. And you've reached that conclusion by direct comparison? If you do go with three, be sure to get the better power supply for the Rendu - the Sonore Power Supply - it made a huge difference on my microRendu 1.4. Better fuse even better. And keep in mind with the Rendu's you can stream Roon to a non-Roon ready endpoint using the Bridge App in Sonicorbiter. Nice two for one, for me at least. SERVER CLOSET (in office directly below living room stereo):NUC 7i5BNH with Roon ROCK (ZeroZone 12V on the NUC)>Cisco 2690L-16PS switch>Sonore opticalModule (Uptone LPS 1.2)> LIVING ROOM: Sonore opticalRendu Roon version (Sonore Power Supply)> Shunyata Venom USB>Naim DAC V1>Witchhat DIN>Naim NAP 160 Bolt Down>Chord Rumor 2>Audio Physic Compact Classics. OFFICE: opticalModule> Sonore microRendu 1.4> Matrix Mini-i Pro 3> Naim NAP 110>NACA5>KEF Ls50's. BJC 6a and Ghent Catsnake 6a JSSG ethernet; AC cables: Shunyata Venom NR V-10; Audience Forte F3; Ice Age copper/copper; Sean Jacobs CHC PowerBlack, Moon Audio DIN>RCA, USB A>C. Isolation: Herbie's Audio Lab. Link to comment
ArthurOtt Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Yes, I have compared both. To get the same SQ from a Sonore product as the Auralic Aries G1 you'd have to go to the Signature Rendu SE. Link to comment
charlesphoto Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 hours ago, ArthurOtt said: Yes, I have compared both. To get the same SQ from a Sonore product as the Auralic Aries G1 you'd have to go to the Signature Rendu SE. Good to know. I'm admittedly a Sonore (and Uptone) fanboy, but there are plenty of great options out there. That Auralic is a nice looking piece of gear I have to say. Personally, I've never had the financial means/wherewithal to plunk down that much $ on any one piece of HiFi gear so the Sonore/Uptone stuff has been nice to build upon over time. Cameras are a different matter, but those at least I can write off for biz... SERVER CLOSET (in office directly below living room stereo):NUC 7i5BNH with Roon ROCK (ZeroZone 12V on the NUC)>Cisco 2690L-16PS switch>Sonore opticalModule (Uptone LPS 1.2)> LIVING ROOM: Sonore opticalRendu Roon version (Sonore Power Supply)> Shunyata Venom USB>Naim DAC V1>Witchhat DIN>Naim NAP 160 Bolt Down>Chord Rumor 2>Audio Physic Compact Classics. OFFICE: opticalModule> Sonore microRendu 1.4> Matrix Mini-i Pro 3> Naim NAP 110>NACA5>KEF Ls50's. BJC 6a and Ghent Catsnake 6a JSSG ethernet; AC cables: Shunyata Venom NR V-10; Audience Forte F3; Ice Age copper/copper; Sean Jacobs CHC PowerBlack, Moon Audio DIN>RCA, USB A>C. Isolation: Herbie's Audio Lab. Link to comment
creativepart Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 Thanks for the responses. I'm in the process of selling a few things to stock up my gear buying budget. As I mentioned the Auralic has been on my list recently. So my budget goal reflects that. Analog: Rega P8 > Ortofon Cadenza Black > Bob's Devices 20:1 SUT > EAR 834P Deluxe MM/MC tube phono stage Digital: Shanling ET-3 CD Transport. Streaming via SoTM SMS200 Ultra Neo w/ SPS500 power supply > Chord Hugo TT2 Sound: PS Audio PowerPlant3 > Naim Supernait3 > Harbeth P3ESR Link to comment
k-man Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Have you considered just adding the Hugo M Scaler? It’s a far bigger impact than upgrading the streamer to the latest and greatest. Link to comment
creativepart Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 Yes, but it's much more expensive than I wish to invest at this time. I'm pretty thrilled by the SQ I'm getting now and hopping that without spending another $5,000 I can take it up a notch even further. Analog: Rega P8 > Ortofon Cadenza Black > Bob's Devices 20:1 SUT > EAR 834P Deluxe MM/MC tube phono stage Digital: Shanling ET-3 CD Transport. Streaming via SoTM SMS200 Ultra Neo w/ SPS500 power supply > Chord Hugo TT2 Sound: PS Audio PowerPlant3 > Naim Supernait3 > Harbeth P3ESR Link to comment
charlesphoto Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I would start by getting a better power supply and DC cable for the SMS200. Not sure what the specs are for that unit, but either the Sonore Power Supply or the Uptone LPS-1.2 will be night and day from the iFi plus won't feed crap back into the mains like the iFi's do. I have all three (and actually three iFi's kicking around now waiting to be sold) so have compared. jaaptina 1 SERVER CLOSET (in office directly below living room stereo):NUC 7i5BNH with Roon ROCK (ZeroZone 12V on the NUC)>Cisco 2690L-16PS switch>Sonore opticalModule (Uptone LPS 1.2)> LIVING ROOM: Sonore opticalRendu Roon version (Sonore Power Supply)> Shunyata Venom USB>Naim DAC V1>Witchhat DIN>Naim NAP 160 Bolt Down>Chord Rumor 2>Audio Physic Compact Classics. OFFICE: opticalModule> Sonore microRendu 1.4> Matrix Mini-i Pro 3> Naim NAP 110>NACA5>KEF Ls50's. BJC 6a and Ghent Catsnake 6a JSSG ethernet; AC cables: Shunyata Venom NR V-10; Audience Forte F3; Ice Age copper/copper; Sean Jacobs CHC PowerBlack, Moon Audio DIN>RCA, USB A>C. Isolation: Herbie's Audio Lab. Link to comment
creativepart Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 I realize that better power supplies to the items I currently have would be an improvement. That's the No. 1 option in my original post. But I don't want to take that step and then have to turn around and take another step to get better still with a better streamer. I guess I just answered my own question. I was looking for first hand experience and I've received it. That's all I was looking for. Analog: Rega P8 > Ortofon Cadenza Black > Bob's Devices 20:1 SUT > EAR 834P Deluxe MM/MC tube phono stage Digital: Shanling ET-3 CD Transport. Streaming via SoTM SMS200 Ultra Neo w/ SPS500 power supply > Chord Hugo TT2 Sound: PS Audio PowerPlant3 > Naim Supernait3 > Harbeth P3ESR Link to comment
ArthurOtt Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 That's another plus for the Auralic G1, they've built a quality LPS right into the unit. Link to comment
creativepart Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, ArthurOtt said: That's another plus for the Auralic G1, they've built a quality LPS right into the unit. That's one of the things that attracted me to it. But I guess I'll still need one for my Qutest. Analog: Rega P8 > Ortofon Cadenza Black > Bob's Devices 20:1 SUT > EAR 834P Deluxe MM/MC tube phono stage Digital: Shanling ET-3 CD Transport. Streaming via SoTM SMS200 Ultra Neo w/ SPS500 power supply > Chord Hugo TT2 Sound: PS Audio PowerPlant3 > Naim Supernait3 > Harbeth P3ESR Link to comment
creativepart Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 Circling back. I was all set to go for the Auralic G1 and in the process of saving up for it. Then I found a listing on Ebay for a SoTM SMS200 Ultra with the sPS500 power supply at a low price I couldn't pass up. So, I ended up with option #2 from the original post. It's not a "Neo" version and I may send it in to have it updated OR simply change out the power capacitor myself to apply the upgrade. I did also buy an SBooster power supply for my Chord Qutest, DAC, as well and feel that has been a SQ improvement now as well. The SoTM equipment is due to arrive tomorrow, so, I can't comment on that yet. But will try to give an impression of the setup when it's all here and integrated into my system. Analog: Rega P8 > Ortofon Cadenza Black > Bob's Devices 20:1 SUT > EAR 834P Deluxe MM/MC tube phono stage Digital: Shanling ET-3 CD Transport. Streaming via SoTM SMS200 Ultra Neo w/ SPS500 power supply > Chord Hugo TT2 Sound: PS Audio PowerPlant3 > Naim Supernait3 > Harbeth P3ESR Link to comment
creativepart Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 All done for now. I went from: SoTM sMS-200 > iFi 9v power supply > Chord Qutest, with stock SMPS to the following: Netgear GS105 Switch > SoTM sMS-200 Ultra > SoTM sPS-500 power supply > Chord Qutest > SBooster Power Supply I play all this through a Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II (all tube integrated running EL-34s) and into Harbeth P3SER speakers. For Analog, i have a Rega Planar 8 (new version) with Dynavector 20XL cartridge and an EAR P834 tube phono stage. Analog: Rega P8 > Ortofon Cadenza Black > Bob's Devices 20:1 SUT > EAR 834P Deluxe MM/MC tube phono stage Digital: Shanling ET-3 CD Transport. Streaming via SoTM SMS200 Ultra Neo w/ SPS500 power supply > Chord Hugo TT2 Sound: PS Audio PowerPlant3 > Naim Supernait3 > Harbeth P3ESR Link to comment
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