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13 hours ago, BigAlMc said:

Disgracefully on the floor

I have never seen a baseboard this clean behind the rack...very impressive.  Looking forward to more of your listening impressions when you have additional time on this new toy.

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Hello everyone,

 

I've just joined up and I'm following this thread with great interest as I will soon be placing an order for a Pheonix. Please keep the great info and chats coming as I find them of great help and they allow me to understand more fully of all the capabilities that may come my way with the Pheonix. 

 

I'm currently running a Zenith MK3 through a Primaluna EVO 400 Integrated Amp and a Topping D90 MQA DAC. Sound is fed through my Klipsch Forte III's. USB from the Zenith MK3 to the D90 MQA DAC is an Audioquest Coffee. 

 

Looking forward to chatting with you all. 

 

Cheers! 🍻


Amplifier: Primaluna EVO 400 Integrated 

Digital: Innuos Zenith MK3 > Topping D90 MQA, Pioneer PD-S904

Analogue: Rega Planar 2 > Rega Fono MM MK3, Pioneer CT-W806DR 

Speakers: Klipsch Forte III

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59 minutes ago, ConcreteCow said:

Hello everyone,

 

I've just joined up and I'm following this thread with great interest as I will soon be placing an order for a Pheonix. Please keep the great info and chats coming as I find them of great help and they allow me to understand more fully of all the capabilities that may come my way with the Pheonix. 

 

I'm currently running a Zenith MK3 through a Primaluna EVO 400 Integrated Amp and a Topping D90 MQA DAC. Sound is fed through my Klipsch Forte III's. USB from the Zenith MK3 to the D90 MQA DAC is an Audioquest Coffee. 

 

Looking forward to chatting with you all. 

 

Cheers! 🍻

Nice system ConcreteCow , I think your going to like the jump in performance your about to hear .

 

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That's fab Alan! Thank you for sharing that useful comparison and outcome.

I'm now emailing Sablon for availability and price for the 2020 USB in preparation of my Phoenix order.

I've got an Audioquest Coffee USB going from my Zenith MK3 to the D90 MQA DAC.

If I kept it and used the Sablon 2020 to go from the Phoenix to the D90 MQA DAC do you think it would be OK? Or used the other way around?

Cheers!🍻


Amplifier: Primaluna EVO 400 Integrated 

Digital: Innuos Zenith MK3 > Topping D90 MQA, Pioneer PD-S904

Analogue: Rega Planar 2 > Rega Fono MM MK3, Pioneer CT-W806DR 

Speakers: Klipsch Forte III

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2 hours ago, ConcreteCow said:

 

I've got an Audioquest Coffee USB going from my Zenith MK3 to the D90 MQA DAC.

If I kept it and used the Sablon 2020 to go from the Phoenix to the D90 MQA DAC do you think it would be OK? Or used the other way around?

Cheers!🍻


My dealer suggested best USB after the Phoenix but with the caveat that the USB cable into it still has an impact.  But best to use you ears.  Let us know what you think.


Digital:  Innuos Zenith Std Mk2 > Shunyata Sigma USB > Chord Hugo M-Scaler > Wireworld Gold Startlight > OPTO DX > Shunyata Alpha S/PDIF > Chord Hugo TT2 

Amp & Speakers:  Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T

Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali power conditioner, Shunyata Alpha power cords, Shunyata Alpha interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD60 speaker cables, ASC isothermal tube traps

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Hi @ConcreteCow,

 

I'd agree with Kenny. Think you need to try each combo and see what you like more.

 

Never heard the Coffee myself but it has a good reputation. That said many people are describing the Sablon 2020 as a giant killer.

 

FWIW I also have a Lush on hand and plan on trying it with the Sablon 2020 to see if I can get a best of both worlds blend of the 2020s open, details and the Lush's texture and musicality.

 

Be interested to hear how you get on.

 

Cheers,

Alan


EtherRegen > Innuos Zenith SE server > Innuos Phoenix > PS Audio Directstream DAC > Hegel P20 Pre > PS Audio M700 monoblocks > Salk Sound Supercharged Songtowers

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3 hours ago, BigAlMc said:

Hi @ConcreteCow,

 

I'd agree with Kenny. Think you need to try each combo and see what you like more.

 

Never heard the Coffee myself but it has a good reputation. That said many people are describing the Sablon 2020 as a giant killer.

 

FWIW I also have a Lush on hand and plan on trying it with the Sablon 2020 to see if I can get a best of both worlds blend of the 2020s open, details and the Lush's texture and musicality.

 

Be interested to hear how you get on.

 

Cheers,

Alan

Hi,

Thanks for all your info.

Looking forward to giving this Sablon 2020 a go...... But that Lush USB! It's apparently a 'tuneable' USB! Wow! Going to give this one a thorough read up! 😁


Amplifier: Primaluna EVO 400 Integrated 

Digital: Innuos Zenith MK3 > Topping D90 MQA, Pioneer PD-S904

Analogue: Rega Planar 2 > Rega Fono MM MK3, Pioneer CT-W806DR 

Speakers: Klipsch Forte III

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35 minutes ago, ConcreteCow said:

But that Lush USB! It's apparently a 'tuneable' USB!

 

Yeah, the Lush^2 is a real brain scrambler in terms of the differences a cable can make, and the differences the SAME cable can make 🙃


EtherRegen > Innuos Zenith SE server > Innuos Phoenix > PS Audio Directstream DAC > Hegel P20 Pre > PS Audio M700 monoblocks > Salk Sound Supercharged Songtowers

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Still reading about it and trying to understand if it's the 'way to go'.

 


Amplifier: Primaluna EVO 400 Integrated 

Digital: Innuos Zenith MK3 > Topping D90 MQA, Pioneer PD-S904

Analogue: Rega Planar 2 > Rega Fono MM MK3, Pioneer CT-W806DR 

Speakers: Klipsch Forte III

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4 hours ago, BigAlMc said:

 

Yeah, the Lush^2 is a real brain scrambler in terms of the differences a cable can make, and the differences the SAME cable can make 🙃

Please let us know of the Lush ^2 with the Phoenix. This will be of great interest.


Amplifier: Primaluna EVO 400 Integrated 

Digital: Innuos Zenith MK3 > Topping D90 MQA, Pioneer PD-S904

Analogue: Rega Planar 2 > Rega Fono MM MK3, Pioneer CT-W806DR 

Speakers: Klipsch Forte III

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Someone who owns both the Phoenix and DAVE/MScaler? There are people describing the effect of the Phoenix in nearly the same terms as the the MScaler. 

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Narrowing my USB choices down to:

 

Sablon 2020 - seems to be the 'end game' at the moment

Curious Evolved - new version that is getting a great following

Final Touch Audio Callisto - the USB lurking in the background of 'greats'

Wireworld Platinum  Starlight 7 - a firm favourite with many

Phasure Audio Lush 2 - good reviews offering something different and 'tuneable'

 

A good selection that gives me a headache to decide 'which one'!!!

 

 

 

 

 


Amplifier: Primaluna EVO 400 Integrated 

Digital: Innuos Zenith MK3 > Topping D90 MQA, Pioneer PD-S904

Analogue: Rega Planar 2 > Rega Fono MM MK3, Pioneer CT-W806DR 

Speakers: Klipsch Forte III

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43 minutes ago, ConcreteCow said:

Narrowing my USB choices down to:

 

Sablon 2020 - seems to be the 'end game' at the moment

Curious Evolved - new version that is getting a great following

Final Touch Audio Callisto - the USB lurking in the background of 'greats'

Wireworld Platinum  Starlight 7 - a firm favourite with many

Phasure Audio Lush 2 - good reviews offering something different and 'tuneable'

 

A good selection that gives me a headache to decide 'which one'!!!

 

 

The Shunyata Sigma is the best USB cable I've heard.  Pricey but it's really in another league compared to cables like the Lush 2 and Starlight 7.

 

The Lush 2 is a great value at that price.  I thought it was pretty much equal to a Shunyata Alpha that I used to own.  The friend who owned the Lush 2 agreed.  He and I both switched to the Sigma after we heard it.  


Digital:  Innuos Zenith Std Mk2 > Shunyata Sigma USB > Chord Hugo M-Scaler > Wireworld Gold Startlight > OPTO DX > Shunyata Alpha S/PDIF > Chord Hugo TT2 

Amp & Speakers:  Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T

Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali power conditioner, Shunyata Alpha power cords, Shunyata Alpha interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD60 speaker cables, ASC isothermal tube traps

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6 hours ago, kennyb123 said:

The Lush 2 is a great value at that price.  I thought it was pretty much equal to a Shunyata Alpha that I used to own.  The friend who owned the Lush 2 agreed.

 

I tend to agree. If you are seeing the Sablon as 'endgame' the go for the much more reasonably priced Lush 2. Many people have raved about it, And see if you can pick up a Sablon on the preowned market down the line.

 

14 hours ago, ConcreteCow said:

Please let us know of the Lush ^2 with the Phoenix. This will be of great interest.

 

I can post my thoughts when I get around to trying it but unlikely to be before this weekend. Also mine would be a comparison to the Sablon.

 

@FrankMA aren't you using the Lush 2 with your Phoenix? Any observations on how they pair?

 

Cheers,

Alan


EtherRegen > Innuos Zenith SE server > Innuos Phoenix > PS Audio Directstream DAC > Hegel P20 Pre > PS Audio M700 monoblocks > Salk Sound Supercharged Songtowers

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Hi Alan

 

I love the Lush 2's paired with the Phoenix. I am really averse to thin or overly bright sounding systems and in this regard the Phasure's fit the bill in my system. In this regard they remind me of AQ cables: Full, musical, balanced. 

Add in the tuning capabilities of the Lush 2 and I think it's a winner

 

Not to say there aren't other great cables out there but I think at this price point the Lush's would be hard to beat


SYSTEM: Ghent JSSG360 Cat6a > EtherRegen/Farad Super 3 > Ghent JSSG360 Cat6a > Zenith MKII SE > Phasure Lush 2 > Innuos Phoenix > Phasure Lush 2 > PS Audio Directstream Sr DAC > Ayre K-5xe MP Preamplifier > Conrad Johnson MF-2500a > Vandersteen Quatro Woods

POWER: AQ (Niagara 5000/Tornado/Hurricane/Audience AU24 SE LP/Triode Wire Labs/Shunyata (Python/Venom 3)/Nordost Blue Heaven/Audio Sensibilities Sig Silver DC 

CABLING: AQ (Earth/Go-4 Dbl Bi-Wire)

ISOLATION: IsoAcoustics/Herbie's/BDR/PS Audio Powerbase

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Thanks Frank,

 

Yeah I know you and I have discussed the Lush^2 in the past and we're both big fans of Peter's (Phasure's) work.

 

Cheers,

Alan


EtherRegen > Innuos Zenith SE server > Innuos Phoenix > PS Audio Directstream DAC > Hegel P20 Pre > PS Audio M700 monoblocks > Salk Sound Supercharged Songtowers

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Lush 2 it is then.

I will read the lengthy thread again to make sure I understand the cable and it's settings. Also noting the Wire settings based on what users hear. This will hopefully give me a 'leg up' when I start to use it. From thereon I can begin to fine tune it in to my system.

I'll use my AQ Coffee from the Zenith to the Phoenix and then the Lush 2 to the D90 MQA DAC to begin with.

Thanks all.... I will keep you posted on what happens soon.


Amplifier: Primaluna EVO 400 Integrated 

Digital: Innuos Zenith MK3 > Topping D90 MQA, Pioneer PD-S904

Analogue: Rega Planar 2 > Rega Fono MM MK3, Pioneer CT-W806DR 

Speakers: Klipsch Forte III

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1 hour ago, FrankMA said:

Hi Alan

 

I love the Lush 2's paired with the Phoenix. I am really averse to thin or overly bright sounding systems and in this regard the Phasure's fit the bill in my system. In this regard they remind me of AQ cables: Full, musical, balanced. 

Add in the tuning capabilities of the Lush 2 and I think it's a winner

 

Not to say there aren't other great cables out there but I think at this price point the Lush's would be hard to beat

 

Hi FrankMA,

May I ask what Jumper/Pin settings you went with on your Lush 2's?

Many thanks.


Amplifier: Primaluna EVO 400 Integrated 

Digital: Innuos Zenith MK3 > Topping D90 MQA, Pioneer PD-S904

Analogue: Rega Planar 2 > Rega Fono MM MK3, Pioneer CT-W806DR 

Speakers: Klipsch Forte III

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Hi ConcreteCow,

 

We've gone a bit off-topic on this thread as supposed to be about the Phoenix but last few posts all around USB cables.

 

This question probably belongs on this thread:

 

Meantime I'll PM you my Lush^2 config as I have photos to hand as shared recently.

 

Thanks,

Alan

 


EtherRegen > Innuos Zenith SE server > Innuos Phoenix > PS Audio Directstream DAC > Hegel P20 Pre > PS Audio M700 monoblocks > Salk Sound Supercharged Songtowers

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