bbosler Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 color me skeptical, but does anybody think that Amazon has gone back to the masters and sourced 24/96 and 24/192 files ??? I am going to believe they are streaming upsampled CD 16/44.1 files until proven otherwise exdmd 1 see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
bbosler Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 no I signed up for Amazon but when they charged me $7.99 for the free trial I cancelled, still don't believe they are delivering native HD content have been using Tidal, jut signed up for Qobuz to see what that is like see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
bbosler Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Quote They charged you for the standard definition because you'd already used your free trial. They gave you a free HD trial. I don't now of any service that gives several free trials. correct, i get that now. they counted my former Amazon music unlimited as a free trial. Quote Based on my DACs that indicate sample rate and bit depth, Amazon is delivering the same native HD content as Qobuz. That means nothing, I can resample 160K MP3 files to 24/192 and it will show on your DACs as 24/192, so unless you look at the spectrum you can't rely on what the DAC is telling you see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
Popular Post bbosler Posted September 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2019 Quote Are you suggesting Amazon is using DSP to get high resolution files? This would be quite a story. I am suggesting that it is odd that all of the sudden they have Neil Young at 24/192 and Elvis at 24/96 along with many others. I am stopping short of accusing anybody of anything, but if they want to make a believer of me and many others they need to tell us where they got all these high resolution files. We got burned by HDtracks when they first started up when they were selling upsampled files. They claimed they were victims of the people supplying the files, but If I could see they were upsampled why didn't HDtracks take the time to verify what they had? And again, not accusing Amazon of anything, just a bit leery. Ask yourself this, do you think the executives at Amazon really understand the difference between 16/44.1 upsampled to 24/192 and files that are natively remastered at 24/192 ?? I haven't figured out how to show the spectrum of the feed from Amazon HD, but if somebody can do that it will clearly show a brick wall filter just below 20KHz if these are upsampled CD files, hopefully they are not wgscott and exdmd 1 1 see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
bbosler Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Quote The MP3 files mentioned elsewhere in this thread are an entirely different type of download, purchased from a different part of the Amazon Music service, for permanent ownership, and playable with other apps. Amazon really should make this distinction more clear. which goes to the heart of my problem with this Amazon service. Even if not intentional, the confusion surrounding it leads one to believe either they have no idea what they are doing, or they are purposely being vague in an attempt to deceive. It would be very simple for them to reveal the provenance of the files and to clarify what they mean by "HD downloads" which we all know now are not HD despite the fact that you can purchase a song within the HD app and "download" it yet end up with an MP3. The fact that they remain silent speaks volumes.... Caveat Emptor see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
bbosler Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Quote But for many people the distinction is not at all clear. AGREED !!! and perhaps beating a very dead horse at this point, but when I bought a file inside an HD service and chose the menu option to download it in HD, I assumed that I was buying and downloading an HD file to my computer. Without any previous experience buying HD files inside an HD service how could anybody know they would get a low resolution MP3 file ?? . It would be very simple for Amazon to put a disclaimer on the menus telling you what you are buying and getting, the fact that they do not is on them IMHO I got burned and have learned a lesson. and now I will let it go. see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
bbosler Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Quote It’s pretty clear that you’re renting, not buying. Sorry, just noticed this... how is it "pretty clear" ??? The option on their menu is to download the HD file... download means one thing to me and I assume to many others... when I download something that I paid for then I expect to own it, when I pay for an HD file and download it I expect to have an HD file, not an MP3 see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
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