Popular Post mansr Posted September 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, kirkmc said: Actually, this website is not encrypted; all that HTTPS does is ensure that sensitive information - user names and passwords - are encrypted. I suggest you reread how https works, preferably from a more accurate source than wherever you got that idea. 11 minutes ago, kirkmc said: But my question was more about FLAC with DRM in general. I haven't heard of this being done before. FLAC is just data like any other. It's easy to have a server encrypt it with a key known only to authorised clients. Not much different from storing your own files on a cloud service, really. wgscott and Daccord 1 1 Link to comment
kirkmc Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, joelha said: Taking the risk that there's an obvious answer to my question, what can I do if I want to stream HD music from my NAS? Joel Assuming you can download music from Amazon for off-line streaming (which is almost certainly the case; I haven't looked), you would have to find which folder stores the files for the app's settings, cache, etc. and put them on the NAS. But you cannot "stream from the NAS" as you are probably thinking; you need to use their app. I write about Macs, music, and more at Kirkville. Author of Take Control of macOS Media Apps. Co-host of The Next Track podcast. Link to comment
joelha Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Not the answer I was hoping for, but it was the answer I was expecting. Thanks kirkmc. Joel Link to comment
gdpr Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 hours ago, firedog said: Well I'm not in the States, but I just Googled "Amazon HD Unlimited" and the link took me right to the service. Put in my Amazon login and it immediately offered me a US subscription. The app is okay. Seems to work well. The selection seems good, especially for the first day it's in business. The price is also good for hi-res streaming. But unless they get Roon integration, I don't think I'd switch from Qobuz. That's just too useful a feature to give up, and I'm not going to pay for 2 hi-res streaming subscriptions. But I can definitely see that this could put both Qobuz and Tidal out of business. And how did you get past the payment page? Dirk Link to comment
cscamp Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 This announcement may not sound like a big deal but it is. Tidal and Qobuz gets competition, but with a lower price. I signed up myself and will test it on my Bluesound Node and PowerNode. Maybe this is why my Bluesound devices have been asking to update for a few days now. Jay-Z wont be sleeping tonight. Will Tidal lower their price tomorrow? RIP Qobuz. You never had a chance. Roon integration would be nice, but i doubt it. Link to comment
Jud Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, kirkmc said: Assuming you can download music from Amazon for off-line streaming (which is almost certainly the case; I haven't looked), you would have to find which folder stores the files for the app's settings, cache, etc. and put them on the NAS. But you cannot "stream from the NAS" as you are probably thinking; you need to use their app. 16 minutes ago, joelha said: Not the answer I was hoping for, but it was the answer I was expecting. Thanks kirkmc. Joel I'm wondering if the answer is "it depends." If your NAS can be configured as a file/application server, and the OS is one the Amazon app will run on, then maybe...? tmtomh 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
wdw Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Logging in from Canada .... the site sends me back to the Canadian Amazon site without any apparent links to the HD version of Amazon Music. Any Canadians able to log in and play? Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted September 17, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, joelha said: Taking the risk that there's an obvious answer to my question, what can I do if I want to stream HD music from my NAS? Joel You can store the Amazon Music HD downloaded / offline music on a NAS and stream it from there. Here is the setting. shahed99 and tmtomh 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
kennyb123 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (deleted) Digital: Sonore opticalModule > Uptone EtherRegen > Shunyata Sigma Ethernet > Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Gustard X26pro DAC < Mutec REF10 SE120 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali v1 and Typhon x1 power conditioners, Shunyata Delta v2 and QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation and Infinity power cords, QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation XLR interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD 60 speaker cables, GIK bass traps, ASC Isothermal tube traps, Stillpoints Aperture panels, Quadraspire SVT rack, PGGB 256 Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted September 17, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, cscamp said: This announcement may not sound like a big deal but it is. Tidal and Qobuz gets competition, but with a lower price. I signed up myself and will test it on my Bluesound Node and PowerNode. Maybe this is why my Bluesound devices have been asking to update for a few days now. Jay-Z wont be sleeping tonight. Will Tidal lower their price tomorrow? RIP Qobuz. You never had a chance. Roon integration would be nice, but i doubt it. The rumours of Qobuz's demise are greatly exaggerated :~) I don't shop at Walmart, I prefer boutique shops with customer service and proprietors who care about each customer. I see Qobuz as fitting this niche for audiophiles. We like to communicate to the companies when metadata is incorrect or playback settings are messed up for some USB DACs etc... This will never happen with Amazon. PYP, AudioDoctor, MikeyFresh and 4 others 5 1 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, kennyb123 said: Why don't you enlighten us instead of taking a swipe at me? I'm familiar with the x.509 standard - but was only trying to be helpful to the conversation. Why not try to be helpful yourself? And as an FYI, I got that idea from my day job. We ship products that 95% of Fortune 500 companies trust to secure their web traffic. He wasn't addressing you. He was addressing Kirk. wgscott 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
joelha Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jud said: I'm wondering if the answer is "it depends." If your NAS can be configured as a file/application server, and the OS is one the Amazon app will run on, then maybe...? Thanks for the suggestion, Jud. In short, I have no idea but if anyone else does, I'm willing to learn. Joel Link to comment
Ran Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, wdw said: Logging in from Canada .... the site sends me back to the Canadian Amazon site without any apparent links to the HD version of Amazon Music. Any Canadians able to log in and play? The service is not available in Canada (yet...) Link to comment
kennyb123 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, The Computer Audiophile said: He wasn't addressing you. He was addressing Kirk. Yeah my bad. I deleted my comment after seeing this. My point is still valid. Why did he need to take a swipe at Kirk? Why couldn't he have just corrected the statement as I did? Digital: Sonore opticalModule > Uptone EtherRegen > Shunyata Sigma Ethernet > Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Gustard X26pro DAC < Mutec REF10 SE120 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali v1 and Typhon x1 power conditioners, Shunyata Delta v2 and QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation and Infinity power cords, QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation XLR interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD 60 speaker cables, GIK bass traps, ASC Isothermal tube traps, Stillpoints Aperture panels, Quadraspire SVT rack, PGGB 256 Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, kennyb123 said: Yeah my bad. I deleted my comment after seeing this. My point is still valid. Why did he need to take a swipe at Kirk? Why couldn't he have just corrected the statement as I did? Agree. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
joelha Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: You can store the Amazon Music HD downloaded / offline music on a NAS and stream it from there. Here is the setting. Thanks for the idea, Chris. If I'm understanding you right, this would be a two step process, is that right? If so, at least in some cases, better than nothing. Joel Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, joelha said: Thanks for the idea, Chris. If I'm understanding you right, this would be a two step process, is that right? If so, at least in some cases, better than nothing. Joel I don't think I understand what you ideally want. What I described enables the Amazon desktop app to store music on one's NAS. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post labjr Posted September 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: The rumours of Qobuz's demise are greatly exaggerated :~) I don't shop at Walmart, I prefer boutique shops with customer service and proprietors who care about each customer. I see Qobuz as fitting this niche for audiophiles. We like to communicate to the companies when metadata is incorrect or playback settings are messed up for some USB DACs etc... This will never happen with Amazon. I don't shop at Walmart unless there is no alternative. But I go to Dollar Tree and Dollar General! They're even cheaper! lucretius, The Computer Audiophile and oneway23 3 Link to comment
labjr Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I would think every competitor is worried because the Hi-res market is pretty small and Amazon has deep pockets. They can hold out until the competitors starve to death. I mean Pono didn't last and Onkyo is going out but Amazon is getting in? I wonder if Bob Stuart is on the phone with his attorneys? The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
mansr Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, kennyb123 said: Yeah my bad. I deleted my comment after seeing this. My point is still valid. Why did he need to take a swipe at Kirk? Why couldn't he have just corrected the statement as I did? I had already made a correct statement, to which the incorrect one was a reply. Why should I repeat myself? wgscott 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Jud Posted September 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 So, who should be worried? - Maybe Apple. Does anyone doubt if Steve Jobs was around that Apple would have been first to do this? Apple's always been the boutique brand and has been very closely identified with music, but now Amazon has the boutique service for music. Vanishingly few people will want to pay for more than one of these higher end services. What's Apple going to offer to get people to switch, if Amazon does indeed find a mass market at this price point? - Obviously Tidal. What conceivably is Tidal's value proposition now (not that it had one before, but now that's going to be a lot more evident to a lot more people)? Qobuz in the US, maybe, but for classical and jazz lovers and Europeans they may have enough market differentiation. Let's see what Amazon may offer in the way of Redbook and higher resolution purchase/download. If they don't, that's the niche @firedog pointed out for Sublime+ members. And if Amazon does get into the Redbook/hi res purchase/download business, then HDTracks, etc., may be in trouble. - Maybe Roon? They're probably too small for Amazon to notice. But if Amazon does notice, maybe they'll buy the service and give all the employees lousy (or no) healthcare. 😶 - Maybe the music industry. I remember one of my old bosses telling me a story about being invited to breakfast with the other side's counsel the morning of a hearing in which he was representing a smallish pipeline company suing a major petroleum corporation. (Hint: Never accept a breakfast invitation with opposing counsel representing a much larger company.) After buying him breakfast, they let him know that if he didn't settle on favorable terms, they'd just buy the pipeline company and make the lawsuit go away. Wondering if Bezos might have the same inclination with labels that start giving him trouble. (US anti-trust enforcement has been nonexistent, but this Administration hates Bezos, so hard to see where the chips would fall if such an acquisition was proposed.) Mike Rubin, PYP, AudioDoctor and 2 others 2 2 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Popular Post Ralf11 Posted September 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, mansr said: I had already made a correct statement, to which the incorrect one was a reply. Why should I repeat myself? "Say it once Why say it again? I hate people when they're not polite..." - Psycho Killer, David Byrne oneway23, Mike Rubin, wgscott and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
Popular Post AudioDoctor Posted September 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2019 I really don't see Amazon getting into the audiophile market for streaming. I see Amazon as having a much more mass market appeal and because of that I see this failing because 99% of consumers don't care about the differences between their MP3s and 24/192 nor do they want to invest a bunch of money into it. However, if Amazon can get audiophiles and take over the streaming market I see it all going to hell and them destroying everything. Like Walmart and Amazon have done to Main Street USA. wgscott and lucretius 1 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
kennyb123 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, mansr said: I had already made a correct statement, to which the incorrect one was a reply. Why should I repeat myself? Many are here to learn, not be scolded because they have an incorrect understanding. wgscott and feelingears 1 1 Digital: Sonore opticalModule > Uptone EtherRegen > Shunyata Sigma Ethernet > Antipodes K30 > Shunyata Omega USB > Gustard X26pro DAC < Mutec REF10 SE120 Amp & Speakers: Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali v1 and Typhon x1 power conditioners, Shunyata Delta v2 and QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation and Infinity power cords, QSA Lanedri Gamma Revelation XLR interconnect, Shunyata Sigma Ethernet, MIT Matrix HD 60 speaker cables, GIK bass traps, ASC Isothermal tube traps, Stillpoints Aperture panels, Quadraspire SVT rack, PGGB 256 Link to comment
shadowlight Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Is the mobile client the same one used for Amazon Music Unlimited wgscott 1 Link to comment
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