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12 hours ago, audiobomber said:

What a load of great news! I'm assuming the DAC3 will be formally reviewed? It's near the top of my list right now, second only to the Alchemy DDP-2. The Lakewest Audio L2 is the third under consideration, but it's still vapourware and looking like it will not make my deadline of October 2019.

DDP-2 Review is up

 

 


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Audeze planar is something for somone.  From my own personal experience, I just could never agree with most of the people when it comes to Audeze sound.  To my ear, they were a complete a true complete crap.  I think it's because that some of us like me and perhaps Sonis cannot hear certain frequency from Audeze's planar drivers.  It never happened to a dynamic driver to me, but I just could never see a reason how anyone say Audeze LCD line up sounds good.  Because to my ears - and I tried - they were completely off.  I think it's just that some of us cannot decode Audeze's planar driver sounds like others.  Well.. just that's just my guess.

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1 hour ago, MhtLion said:

Audeze planar is something for somone.  From my own personal experience, I just could never agree with most of the people when it comes to Audeze sound.  To my ear, they were a complete a true complete crap.  I think it's because that some of us like me and perhaps Sonis cannot hear certain frequency from Audeze's planar drivers.  It never happened to a dynamic driver to me, but I just could never see a reason how anyone say Audeze LCD line up sounds good.  Because to my ears - and I tried - they were completely off.  I think it's just that some of us cannot decode Audeze's planar driver sounds like others.  Well.. just that's just my guess.

Well, there’s no doubt that we all lose some hearing acumen as we age. I can still hear 15KHz pretty well in my left ear, but my right one seems to be fairly attenuated by about 13.5 KHz.

on the other hand, I have three pairs of planar headphones here at home. HiFi man HE-560, Edition X, v.2, and Ananda.I also have 2 pair of Electrostatic phones:, the HiFiMan Jade 2 and the Mr. Speakers “Voce” model. I have no problem hearing the “important frequencies” from any of these headphone models. In fact, they all sound very good for their price-points with the electrostatics sounding the best, of course.

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17 hours ago, Sonis said:

Well, there’s no doubt that we all lose some hearing acumen as we age. I can still hear 15KHz pretty well in my left ear, but my right one seems to be fairly attenuated by about 13.5 KHz.

on the other hand, I have three pairs of planar headphones here at home. HiFi man HE-560, Edition X, v.2, and Ananda.I also have 2 pair of Electrostatic phones:, the HiFiMan Jade 2 and the Mr. Speakers “Voce” model. I have no problem hearing the “important frequencies” from any of these headphone models. In fact, they all sound very good for their price-points with the electrostatics sounding the best, of course.

Or, perhaps we have a super hearing.  For others, Audeze planar isn't any different, but for us it maybe missing something completely.  I think an easy test for you is to try another Audeze LCD line up.  For my experience, Audeze LCD 2C was uber completely lifeless - complete lack of emotion.  But, I'm sure that so many raving reviews are also true to their ears.

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17 minutes ago, kirkmc said:

All this makes me wonder, half serious, half joking, if reviewers of audio equipment should have their hearing tested regularly, and publish the results of those tests. 

Being totally serious; of course not. Perfect auditory perception is simply unnecessary. 

A review is an informed opinion. It is not meant as an absolute endorsement or condemnation of any product. A review is meant to peak consumer interest in the product being reviewed by describing the product fully, pointing out its features and, when appropriate, its shortcomings. For that, a reviewer’s knowledge of the field, and his experience is far more important than his physical hearing acumen. 

Armed with a favorable review, it is then up to the reader to decide from such a review whether or not to investigate the product further. A person who buys, based solely on a review is a foolish shopper. When buying audio equipment, two rules should be observed: 1) Always listen before you buy, if possible. 2) if it is not possible to listen first, always buy from a dealer who will allow you to return the item, if it doesn’t meet one’s expectations.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Archimago said:

where I've heard the same speakers but they seem to have missed some issues in the higher frequencies or not noticed what appears to be lack of treble extension. I suspect this is because of hearing deficits.

 

You heard the same speakers in the same room though?

 

Same speakers in different rooms can sound very very different...

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On 9/16/2019 at 9:06 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

George - Something isn't adding up for me on this. You sent the AR headphones back in June, but you took a photo of them today from what appears to be your place (given the GPS coordinates included in the EXIF data.)

 

Can you help me understand what's up here?

 

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On 9/24/2019 at 8:35 AM, christopher3393 said:

 

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I was looking forward to seeing the reply to this as well.  


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30 minutes ago, Sonis said:

Asked and answered already.


Where did you answer that?  Obviously a couple of us were interested in the answer.  


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17 minutes ago, kennyb123 said:


Where did you answer that?  Obviously a couple of us were interested in the answer.  

Answered to Chris. The pictures were only on my audio system computer by the time that Q came up. The computer is connected to my 4K TV. It was just easier and faster to snap the screen than to go to the trouble of transferring it to my iPad, since that was what I was using to answer posts on Computer Audiophile that day. Happy now?

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In early 2013, I bought the Audeze LCD-3. Sounded terrific, but far too heavy on the head. Persisted for a time, then enough was enough, especially in the summer, and bought Sennheiser HD800S, pretty happy with them. So the LCD-3 sat in a cupboard for some years until this year, took them out for a spin and condition check.

 

The Left channel wasn't working, debugged cabling, but turned out the left driver was damaged. Online price to repair were more than half of the cost of the headphone. If just having them stored caused the driver to fail, then would a replacement fail again or the other side fail shortly thereafter? An online search revealed the problem was very common.

 

The best day was to throw the LCD-3 in the trash, begone. Never again an Audeze to buy. Kept the Pelican case though and the foam to store HP cables, connectors, very handy!


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1 hour ago, One and a half said:

In early 2013, I bought the Audeze LCD-3. Sounded terrific, but far too heavy on the head. Persisted for a time, then enough was enough, especially in the summer, and bought Sennheiser HD800S, pretty happy with them. So the LCD-3 sat in a cupboard for some years until this year, took them out for a spin and condition check.

 

The Left channel wasn't working, debugged cabling, but turned out the left driver was damaged. Online price to repair were more than half of the cost of the headphone. If just having them stored caused the driver to fail, then would a replacement fail again or the other side fail shortly thereafter? An online search revealed the problem was very common.

 

The best day was to throw the LCD-3 in the trash, begone. Never again an Audeze to buy. Kept the Pelican case though and the foam to store HP cables, connectors, very handy!

I borrowed a pair of LCD-3 several years ago after hearing them at the San Francisco HiFi Show. I thought they sounded great! That’s why I was even more disappointed with the sound of the LCD-4z. I was aghast at the screechy

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7 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

The follow up reviews are published.

 

Very nicely done, Chris! 


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Amp & Speakers:  Spectral DMA-150mk2 > Aerial 10T

Foundation: Stillpoints Ultra, Shunyata Denali power conditioner, Shunyata Alpha power cords, Shunyata Anaconda interconnect, MIT Oracle speaker cables, GIK bass traps

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