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30 minutes ago, Foggie said:

 

Maybe a bit off topic but to be clear - sbaf is a headphone niche, no?  If so, that presents a completely different set of variables in so far as listening experiences.  The big thread here at AS "massive improve..." or whatever it is, is similar in that many reviews are HP people (if memory serves) and readers really need to understand this as it isn't obvious unless one is familiar with said individuals. 

 

I'm not a HP person in the least - can't stand them and wish this was clearly stated upfront.  This isn't a HP forum for the most part.

 

 

 

Not at all. Speaker discussion is an important part of SBAF. Many of the senior members listen to their vinyl and speakers as much or more as phones. Changstar morphed into SBAF in late 2015. SBAF is definitely not another Head-Fi clone. In fact, because of a dust up years ago any mention of SBAF at Head-Fi is removed by moderators:)

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28 minutes ago, exdmd said:

 

Not at all. Speaker discussion is an important part of SBAF. Many of the senior members listen to their vinyl and speakers as much or more as phones. Changstar morphed into SBAF in late 2015. SBAF is definitely not in the same universe as Head-Fi. In fact, because of a dust up years ago any mention of SBAF at Head-Fi is removed by moderators:)

Hmmm,...I'm not privy to the history et al, but when I visited not too long ago it appeared to be mostly all HP and even the forum "mission" stated it was basically a HP environment so to speak.  I could be wrong or misinterpreted it, but I couldn't leave fast enough as it was "I'm right, you don't know squat and if you don't like it, don't let the door hit you on the way out"   That was after a few min of scanning some threads and was like WTF? 

 

Again, I'm not familiar with that forum and if I'm off base I apologize for inferring something different.  Not sure why I even brought it up :) I just caught the end of this thread and thought I would put in my $.02   Anyway I'm evaluating a new toy so I'm out!

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Miska said:

Not sure what you are hinting.

Not hinting at anything. You have two capable people with differing view points.

 

3 minutes ago, Miska said:

but instead got attacked because the results weren't what they wanted/expected. 

Sorry that happened. Not sure what other threads that was going on in. There was some good debate in the thread I mentioned and nothing more than that. 

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20 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

Miska - I hope you really do some TIM measurements.  Not sure if you'll find anything with DACs, but...

 

I've done some so far... The four high level tones are the test signal, everything else is distortion.

 

In this respect, PCM vs DSD doesn't make much difference, since the behavior is mostly driven by analog stages.

 

 

 

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On 12/7/2019 at 1:08 PM, Miska said:

 

I've done some so far... The four high level tones are the test signal, everything else is distortion.

 

In this respect, PCM vs DSD doesn't make much difference, since the behavior is mostly driven by analog stages.

 

 

 

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Wow, awesome reference materials there. Thanks, Miska!

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On 12/7/2019 at 7:08 PM, Miska said:

 

I've done some so far... The four high level tones are the test signal, everything else is distortion.

 

In this respect, PCM vs DSD doesn't make much difference, since the behavior is mostly driven by analog stages.

 

 

 

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Do you have TIM measurement of your RME, and holo spring too?

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Euphony (NUC7DNKE: Roon or Stylus) --> Euphony EP (NUC7CJYH: Roon Bridge or NAA or StylusEP) --> Matrix Audio X-SPDIF 2 --> Matrix Audio X-Sabre Pro (MQA) (I2S) -->

Euphony (NUC7DNKE: Roon) --> WS 2019 Core (i7-8700: HQPlayer, JPLAY Femto, Roon Bridge, MinorityClean) / Matrix Audio Element H --> Matrix Audio X-Sabre Pro (MQA) (USB) --> B & M Prime 6

Synology DS 112+ (LMS) --> pi3B+/HifiBerry Digi + Pro (PiCorePlayer) --> Matrix Audio X-Sabre Pro (MQA) (SPDIF) -->  

bedroom: pi3/DigiOne (RoPieee) --> S.M.S.L M500 --> KRK Rokit 5 or AKG 712 Pro

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The Chassis on this is like MSB DAC. I stumbled on this yesterday and I am really interested in hearing one. I do believe in bench testing or at least opening the hood and seeing what is underneath. 

Furutech GTX-D, GTX Wall Plate,106-D Cover > NCF Clearline >Custom Computer>J River [Current] > Curious Cable Evolved USB > Chord Hugo MScaler > WAVE Storm Dual BNC> Chord DAVE>DCA Stealth>my ears > audiophile brain

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