Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted September 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 2:26 PM, asdf1000 said: If it means manufacturers see it and try to improve measurements so they go to a higher “ranking”, that’s not a bad thing for end consumers? How people buy things can be too complicated to even think about... whether there is a ranking or not. This is the way many consumers think, but in reality it isn't the case. Think about rankings of anything and what manufacturers will do to be ranked higher. If it means making an unmeasured or unranked part of a product worse in order to make the measured part better, they will do it in a heartbeat. Before I went to law school I dissected the data in the US News Best Law Schools and rankings for all others. I new most schools info by heart. What a waste this was. When I learned what schools didi to get rankings, that had nothing to do with the quality of school or education, I realized I had wasted way too much time and anxiety. In audio, the most expensive / newest ESS chip is always rated as the best by many people. Thus, some manufacturers put this chip in their DACs. However, the manufacturers may not implement it in the best way or make it any better than the least expensive ESS chip or chip from another manufacturer. Rankings / ratings always have unintended consequences. I'm not always against them, but I can't think of a time when I was for them. Josh Mound and emcdade 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted September 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2019 Oh wait, I'm 100% for rankings when it comes to @JoshM's The Best Version Of ... articles. I'll take more of those all day long. DuckToller and Josh Mound 1 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, asdf1000 said: Unless you mean all his measurements are useless? Oh no, I don't mean that. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, pkane2001 said: Google is your friend. Feel free to use it. Those making assertions should at least be willing to back them up if asked. Josh Mound 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, pkane2001 said: Just like you backed up your personal allegations against an owner of another forum yesterday? Thanks, leave me out of it. This thread has been dead for months, why resurrect it? Two wrongs make a right? Mine were based on personal information, about a specific person. Your claims are based on something we have no idea about. You made them up for all we know. You can't even say a single public forum where this behavior takes place? Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, mansr said: You've just got to connect the dots. I need to be pointed to at least two dots to connect them. Perhaps the objectivists are turning subjective when it fits their narratives. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, pkane2001 said: I have personal, first-hand information about forums that are run by extreme subjectivists, where you get banned for mentioning measurements or blind tests. As I said, I'd rather not go down the path of naming them. It was not a pleasant experience but I'm not a vindictive type of person. Nobody is asking you to do that. Here is the ask -> 52 minutes ago, emcdade said: Could you point me to a subjectivist forum that has the same angry vibes as ASR but in reverse? I've never encountered one, so it would be quite the site to see. Thanks for any link you could provide. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, pkane2001 said: I guess you didn't see where I said "I don't want to go down this path"? Are you going to keep insisting that I do something I said I'm not willing to do? Absolutely not. I was only trying to help everyone in the hobby by asking you to give us one tiny bit of information. pkane2001 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
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