botrytis Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, wgscott said: Compression and dynamic range limitation on analogue media is "musical." Compression and dynamic range limitation, even to a much lesser extent, on digital media is a crime against civilization. One thing Neil Young is very good at is summoning up some righteous anger. Not always. NY is just like everyone else, he puts his pants on one leg at a time. Yo know the old saying about opinions...... Listen to some old Julie London LP's and tell me if you think analog range limitation and compression is good. On a decent system, it sounds like ass. Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
botrytis Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 57 minutes ago, wgscott said: Sarcasm isn't your thing this morning? Is it morning? I have been at work too long this morning....... Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
botrytis Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, wgscott said: Sounds like Steve Jobs compressed your whole day. Just crummy management....... Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
Popular Post botrytis Posted August 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2019 47 minutes ago, crenca said: This. The truth of what Nyquist–Shannon is telling us about sampling and the fidelity of the resultant waveform to the "original", is hard. Calculus is hard. The physics of sound-as-waveform-through-medium is hard. Most folks don't have the education or interest to get it right. This is perhaps the truth of certain audiophiles and the 'audiophile press' deference to gurus such Bob Stuart. Yet in reality Bob Stuart is a charlatan - a "post-Shannon" genius on the level of Copernicus, or so they say Another example: John Atkinson is a believer in the allegedly erroneous "leading edge" or "transient leading edge" behavior of digital sampling/DAC reconstruction. Why? What is the evidence? Bob S and others (who mostly sell stuff) allege it, but is it true? Please not Copernicus, maybe Fleischmann and Pons (U of Utah Cold Fusion scientists). crenca and Ralf11 1 1 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
botrytis Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, gmgraves said: Of course, but there are those amongst us who believe that they hear artifacts even in lossless streaming/downloading technologies such as FLAC. I just wanted to be clear to everyone, that in spite of the controversy in some quarters surrounding the notion of lossless compression, that I’ve heard none from Auntie’s Proms “broadcasts” over the Internet, all the way from Ol’ Blighty! If you can't measure, what are they hearing? It might be their sub-conscious adding in those artifacts. This is known to happen. STC 1 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
botrytis Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Rexp said: On the contrary, why bother measuring when true audiophiles like Neil Young know THERE ARE NO MEASURING DEVICES CAPABLE OF DETECTING WHAT CAUSES MOST CD TO SOUND UTTER CRAP. Right - get a better CD player lucretius 1 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
botrytis Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, wgscott said: At least he did the highly principled thing, and didn't sell any. https://neilyoungarchives.com/ You can buy them here.... Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
botrytis Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, crenca said: @wgscotthumor can be rather dry 😉 Mine too - why I posted the link I just had to. @wgscott might want to buy some. Good for scaring cats..... Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
botrytis Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 39 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: ok, how do you culture things with a dry wit? You drink a lot of wit beer first, then switch to dry gin. Just an FYI..... Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
Popular Post botrytis Posted August 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2019 12 hours ago, Rexp said: I'd take live AAC streaming over CD playback anyday. How about you? This makes no sense.... sandyk and Teresa 2 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
botrytis Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Rexp said: No but have you listened to the proms? Not a Mac or itunes person, why would I listen to AAC? No reason to. Prefer CD, FLAC or high-res depending..... sandyk 1 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
botrytis Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, esldude said: It might make sense. The BBC Proms already mentioned by Rexp are one example. I listened to it, and my internet connection is so poor, it couldn't reliably manage the FLAC lossless streaming of those performances. So AAC is one of the better moderate bitrate codecs to use. They also supplied a 4 channel surround version using MPEG_DASH at 320 kbps. I mentioned Opus which is to my knowledge the best low bitrate encoder. It is nearly transparent at 96 kbps, and other than a few very edge cases is transparent at 128 kbps. Fortunately they've finally upgraded the internet where I live, and I can listen to FLAC. I listened to FLAC when I had DSL. To each their own Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
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