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Article: The Best Version Of… Crosby, Stills & Nash Self-Titled Debut

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Great article. I will say that through my cloth ears, and my Vivid Giya 3/Ayre MX 20s/MSB Platinum DAC/Innuous Statement server -- the HD Tracks download is richer, fuller, more detailed than the Gastwirt CD... my completely unscientific back to back plays always ended with me preferring the download?? Hmm...

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On 8/6/2019 at 2:43 PM, MikeyFresh said:

 

This would appear to be the real McCoy (aluminum version of the 1993 gold disc):

 

Crosby Stills & Nash Original recording remastered Edition by Crosby Stills & Nash (1994) Audio CD

 

  1. The June 7, 1994 limited edition Gastwirt (aluminum pressing in error), Atlantic catalog# 82522-2:
     

    Amazon ASIN: B000002IWL

    https://www.amazon.com/Crosby-Stills-Nash/dp/B000002IWL/ref=tmm_acd_title_10?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

    See:
    https://www.discogs.com/Crosby-Stills-Nash-Crosby-Stills-Nash/release/4452933
     

  2.  The August 16, 1994 non-limited edition Gastwirt (silver), Atlantic catalog#   82651-2:
     

    Amazon ASIN: B000002J0P

    https://www.amazon.com/Crosby-Stills-Nash/dp/B000002J0P/ref=tmm_acd_title_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid

    This Amazon code (ASIN) is linked to this Musicbrainz page:
    https://musicbrainz.org/release/591243ae-97b3-3a7e-9808-6a1e719c95b8

    This Musicbrainz page links to this Discogs page:
    https://www.discogs.com/Crosby-Stills-Nash-Crosby-Stills-Nash/release/3551628

     

 

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Thanks a million for your hard work, Josh!  This is an amazing and informative article (as are all of your TVBO articles). I ordered the CD and can't wait to get it.

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On 8/6/2019 at 3:02 PM, Ralf11 said:

Thanks, Josh!

 

Now I have to try and figure out which version I have...

 

Anybody know how to "back-calculate" from the code A2  19117 to the mastering?  Discogs tells me that SD 191117 is a USA release, but not the mastering.  No info about 'A2'

 

As Josh said, it's an original (Diament) mastering. That particular CD was released in 1987. See:

https://musicbrainz.org/release/f29b9605-ddb2-3780-878d-e691fa5b03f5 (see release date)

https://www.discogs.com/Crosby-Stills-Nash-Crosby-Stills-Nash/release/10978263 (see images - back cover)

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Just arrived -  a used, "like new" (and it is) 82651-2, Gastwirt release:

Sounds really good to me, no added volume compression, a nice warm sound (not overly so, just right) to my ears. Haven't really compared it to other versions, but it's very good sounding. 


Main listening (small home office):

Surge protector +_iFi  AC iPurifiers >Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Conditioning+Isolation>CAPS IV Pipeline Server + Sonore 12V PS>Kii Control>Audiolense DRC>Kii Three >GIK Room Treatments.
 

Secondary Listening: CAPS Pipeline>IFi iOne DAC>Schiit Freya>Kii Three . Also an SBT and a RB Pi 3B+ running piCorePlayer as an SBT emulator. 

All absolute statements about audio are false :)

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On 8/21/2019 at 5:21 PM, DavidM1108 said:

Great article. I will say that through my cloth ears, and my Vivid Giya 3/Ayre MX 20s/MSB Platinum DAC/Innuous Statement server -- the HD Tracks download is richer, fuller, more detailed than the Gastwirt CD... my completely unscientific back to back plays always ended with me preferring the download?? Hmm...

 

While I don’t think the download is the best version, its overall sound signature is pretty good. It’s just more compressed than the Gastwirt, and I think the transfer isn’t as good as Gastwirt’s, despite the improvement in ADC tech.

 

That said, any increased compression can create the impression of fullness and more detail, since otherwise quiet sounds are raised in volume relative to the loud sounds. 

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50 minutes ago, JoshM said:

 

While I don’t think the download is the best version, its overall sound signature is pretty good. It’s just more compressed than the Gastwirt, and I think the transfer isn’t as good as Gastwirt’s, despite the improvement in ADC tech.

 

That said, any increased compression can create the impression of fullness and more detail, since otherwise quiet sounds are raised in volume relative to the loud sounds. 

 

I also think the hires download makes it easy to hear detail. If I listen to a single track I really like it. It’s just the volume compression makes it hard for me to listen several songs in a row - I start to notice the VC instead of the music. 

But if the VC doesn’t bother you I can definitely understand why  you’d prefer it. 


Main listening (small home office):

Surge protector +_iFi  AC iPurifiers >Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Conditioning+Isolation>CAPS IV Pipeline Server + Sonore 12V PS>Kii Control>Audiolense DRC>Kii Three >GIK Room Treatments.
 

Secondary Listening: CAPS Pipeline>IFi iOne DAC>Schiit Freya>Kii Three . Also an SBT and a RB Pi 3B+ running piCorePlayer as an SBT emulator. 

All absolute statements about audio are false :)

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Josh, just thought of another famous favorite album of mine, with many, many incarnations. The sound can be brilliant in some cases. This is one I am sure many people would love to read an article from regarding the best version of:

 

Dire Straits Brothers In Arms 

 

 

JC

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