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Redbook vs. High Resolution Tests Are Clickbait

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3 minutes ago, PeterSt said:

 

Too difficult for my Dutch. Can't this be moved to the non-sense thread ? from there I will get it (but won't click).

Back in the day I could understand people wanting to know if they could identify differences between Redbook and high resolution. They could spend less money on a DAC that didn’t support 192 or something or they could purchase the Redbook CD rather than the high res download. Now, all that stuff is included. All DACs support high res and all high res is streamable. 


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4 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

They could spend less money on a DAC that didn’t support 192 or something

 

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2 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

I recently read about another Redbook vs. High Resolution listening test supposedly coming up soon. It made me think, why have such a test? Ah ha, it may drive traffic. 

 

Think about it, what other reason is there for a test like this? Every DAC now plays high resolution and every album available for purchase in high resolution is also available for streaming in high resolution. 

 

Thus, nobody is saving money by finding out they can’t hear a difference between the two versions.

 

What could possibly be gained from a conclusive test result for or against high resolution? Nothing. 

 

I’m all ears and willing to change my mind if anyone wishes to provide evidence that a Redbook vs. High Resolution test has any value. 

 

Note: This has zero to do with one’s belief in or disbelief in high resolution. That doesn’t matter in the least either, especially for purposes of this post. 

 

CDs are still cheaper.  And I can find a lot of CDs at the thrift store and in  the library -- not so for hi res.  Where is hi res other than MQA available for streaming?

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OK, now someone show me a commercially available recording which has an SNR of more than 75 db?  Excluding purely electronic recordings.  

 

 


To paraphrase Rick James, "sighted listening is a helluva drug".

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7 hours ago, psjug said:

Hi-res music purchases cost more.  Hi-res streaming costs more. Am I not understanding something?

I believe the price is negligible compared to everything else in this hobby, but I see your point. 

 

However, would any test cause you to purchase the Redbook version, given that such test can only prove valid for the recording under examination and the exact playback chain used?


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7 minutes ago, mansr said:

As for Waldrep's upcoming project, it's probably a waste of time. The outcome will almost certainly be inconclusive, and everybody will carry on believing whatever they believe today.

 

 

 Perhaps he is trying to arrest flagging sales figures ?

He may also be trying to demonstrate that his Hi Res recordings sound better than anything from MQA ! :D


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2 hours ago, mansr said:

Depends on where you're buying from. Some labels, e.g. Blue Coast, charge 3x more for the highest resolution compared to CD quality. $20 extra on 500 albums is already $10,000. That's money that would buy, say, a rather nice pair of speakers. [...]

 

$10k speakers probably aren't that impressive to somebody used to $58k speakers and $10k of poweramp in front of each. So at the end of the day, $10k extra on hires music would be quite negligible for some. On the other hand, 5,000 albums would likely be much more like it for somebody Chris' calibre, which would jack the premium up to like $100k. Ouch O.o

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2 minutes ago, miguelito said:

Slightly off topic... I find there's little analysis of how well a DAC plays red book (16/44). I think this is actually very important, not all DACs do a great job playing red book,  even when they support massively high resolutions.

100% true. Good filters can make all the difference in the world. 


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1 hour ago, miguelito said:

Slightly off topic... I find there's little analysis of how well a DAC plays red book (16/44). I think this is actually very important, not all DACs do a great job playing red book,  even when they support massively high resolutions.

 

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